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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    That's not development, that's HS.

    How does it help to develop a 16 year old to play with a 13 year old?
    Because the 13 year olds that are stronger then the 16 year old can challenge them and force them to up their game and compete, or move aside.

    The combined age groups were probably the most appealing aspect of the gda at the start. When they ditched those, it became clear that this was about money and crushing the competition and not about finding and developing talent.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Because the 13 year olds that are stronger then the 16 year old can challenge them and force them to up their game and compete, or move aside.

      The combined age groups were probably the most appealing aspect of the gda at the start. When they ditched those, it became clear that this was about money and crushing the competition and not about finding and developing talent.
      Kids do play up in the DA. Not sure you are aware of that.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Kids do play up in the DA. Not sure you are aware of that.
        Right. The argument is silly. Sure it helps the 13-year old, but not the 16-year old.

        HS isn't about development. This is the end of the road for most, so what you see is what you get.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Kids do play up in the DA. Not sure you are aware of that.
          Aware but that is not enough. The combined age groups forced more bigger fish to survive and forced more smaller fish out of the pool. if the intent is to continue to exclude most players by income, at least the comvined ages also excluded some of the lesser talents.

          That is what a committed, competitive talent wants and that is what was possibly worth paying for. Not whatever gobbledygook is available now for top dollar.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Then they're really sh*tty lawyers who will just take you for a ride. The rules state HS soccer is not allowed without a waiver (for private school only) and that there will be consequences. There's no case. BDA has had this same policy for at least 7 years. Everyone knows the deal. You're just upset that some get away with it. Take the life lesson and try and teach your kid something instead of acting like a whiny little bi+ch
            Isn’t that where the legal case comes in? Some public school gda players at some gda clubs are allowed to play hs soccer and then return to their GDA team by their gda clubs. If it’s truly a rule, then it must be enforced equally by all gda clubs.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Isn’t that where the legal case comes in? Some public school gda players at some gda clubs are allowed to play hs soccer and then return to their GDA team by their gda clubs. If it’s truly a rule, then it must be enforced equally by all gda clubs.
              Nobody is allowed by USSoccer, and as is evidenced if someone wants to rat them out, they will come down on it. As I anticipated, they were lax on it last year to help get it going but there are suspensions happening everywhere.

              They don't have the manpower, nor the desire, to read through every article in every town to compare who is on every roster. But, if someone brings them evidence they will suspend the player.

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                The moment that NYCFC left the GDA it was over, at least in the Northeast United States, and NO rebranding and playing in the ECNL is not the same, stupid.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The moment that NYCFC left the GDA it was over, at least in the Northeast United States, and NO rebranding and playing in the ECNL is not the same, stupid.
                  In the NE, it more or less is. Nycfc might have been an anomaly for a few seasons. These leagues are very similar, after the same players, more or less the same business model. It is obvious. No one cares which one wins this battle other then the clubs themselves. The players just which one or the other would go away and they could care less which one

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Isn’t that where the legal case comes in? Some public school gda players at some gda clubs are allowed to play hs soccer and then return to their GDA team by their gda clubs. If it’s truly a rule, then it must be enforced equally by all gda clubs.
                    These are the rules

                    1) If you attend private school you can apply for a legitimate waiver, as long as you can prove your attendance or finances are dependent on you playing soccer. Waivers have to be approved the your club and USSF by mid August before rosters are submitted to USSF.

                    2) Use the legal loophole of playing for your HS (public or private) in the fall then be added to the DA roster once your HS team is finished. It's not really in the spirit of the law but it's used frequently. Again it's allowed and players can be added as late as April 1

                    Whichever route you go, one thing is crystal clear - you cannot play DA and HS AT THE SAME TIME. Fury not only broke the dual play rule, but they willingly put public school players on the fall rosters as well. They told players it was ok. It wasn't. Obviously Fury broke the rules, but so did the families. The rules are on the website, clear as day.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Because the 13 year olds that are stronger then the 16 year old can challenge them and force them to up their game and compete, or move aside.

                      The combined age groups were probably the most appealing aspect of the gda at the start. When they ditched those, it became clear that this was about money and crushing the competition and not about finding and developing talent.
                      I agree with the combined ages being beneficial, but not with that big a gap. MLS clubs would like to only run two teams U16/17 and U18/19. Anything younger than that can do still do HS and be a part of a feeder system. But if you're on those two teams then no HS. Shrink DA in terms of the # of clubs (way too many and plenty aren't up to snuff) and shrink the teams so that it really is a league for the best players, not just players who can fill a roster and write a check

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Aware but that is not enough. The combined age groups forced more bigger fish to survive and forced more smaller fish out of the pool. if the intent is to continue to exclude most players by income, at least the comvined ages also excluded some of the lesser talents.

                        That is what a committed, competitive talent wants and that is what was possibly worth paying for. Not whatever gobbledygook is available now for top dollar.
                        Give the affluent top players a product worth paying for or don't expect them to want to buy it. Thus entire mess indicates that the goal of serving top players is just lip service and this is just a soccer business like the others.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Isn’t that where the legal case comes in? Some public school gda players at some gda clubs are allowed to play hs soccer and then return to their GDA team by their gda clubs. If it’s truly a rule, then it must be enforced equally by all gda clubs.
                          There is no legal case. Rules are rules. Fury and families broke them, got busted, and now they're all pissy about getting caught.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Give the affluent top players a product worth paying for or don't expect them to want to buy it. Thus entire mess indicates that the goal of serving top players is just lip service and this is just a soccer business like the others.
                            Particularly when the target market is more interested in college rather than going pro.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Particularly when the target market is more interested in college rather than going pro.
                              There is no pro. A few markets in a few cities.

                              Who wants to pay good money to watch a bunch of rich girls play soccer?

                              People will pay to watch entertaining athletic freaks do their thing and compete. No one will pay to watch the country club championship.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                No one will pay to watch the country club championship.
                                What are you talking about? Golf events held at COUNTRY CLUBS draw huge crowds.

                                A typical polo championship could draw over 10k as well.

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