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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    SO unless we are all moving to another country its pay to play. I'm not getting how its raised all the time in relation to the GDA.
    Only those who can afford it play. That means some quality players will be excluded in exchange for ones whose parents can afford $6000+ and more (with travel) for club soccer. The closest we get to an international model is free to play MLS clubs. Pay to play BDA clubs by and large make some effort to reduce their fees because they're trying to keep the top talent. As a result you'll see much broader socio-economic diversity there vs pay to play clubs. GDA doesn't have that.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Only those who can afford it play. That means some quality players will be excluded in exchange for ones whose parents can afford $6000+ and more (with travel) for club soccer. The closest we get to an international model is free to play MLS clubs. Pay to play BDA clubs by and large make some effort to reduce their fees because they're trying to keep the top talent. As a result you'll see much broader socio-economic diversity there vs pay to play clubs. GDA doesn't have that.
      Depends on what club in the GDA you play for. That $6,000 number for tuition is grossly inflated.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Depends on what club in the GDA you play for. That $6,000 number for tuition is grossly inflated.
        Tuition is not the big issue. The travel burden is what defines these leagues and insures they harvest a good crop of affluent customers. But the pool of customers with both soccer talent and bucks for all that travel is limited and it is this market that the youth soccer industry serves.

        Fury players are sought after customers. Is there a more pricey option for youth soccer anywhere? Doubt it. The options for replacing them are limited so just realize that before you give them the boot.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Depends on what club in the GDA you play for. That $6,000 number for tuition is grossly inflated.
          Forgot to write that includes travel. That can easily double your club fees, especially for teams here where flights are necessary for every event. And they're mandatory. ECNL lets you pick and chose from a few.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Thats' part of the problem - GDA is not BDA. It isn't the best players (it has some) and certainly isn't all the best clubs and teams to compete against. If GDA were stronger they would attract better players who wouldn't be willing to take chances to play what DA claims is meaningless HS soccer. Boys more readily give it up for a reason - because BDA is the top league by a country mile. GDA just isn't. At best it's tied with ECNL. Obviously there's local variations, but as a whole not enough girls think it's worth bypassing HS soccer for.
            if GDA were stronger. Thats the idiotic statement.

            If TALENT determined who played where, then maybe. NONE of the girls leagues are about talent. They are about volume. Who can pay. The better players you refer to are not there in the numbers required to support a high level league.

            Its not about bypassing HS soccer. HS soccer is mostly rubbish. The simple fact is there are not enough talented kids to support a high level league with high level aspirations like practice game ratios, rest etc.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              These leagues are more desirable and less oversold if they have stronger players involved. I would say many of the suspended players are good players. Suit yourself but I would say the league was more attractive with them included rather then excluded. I think the league bit off ots nose to spite it's face
              Good players? Maybe. But they are not difference makers. They are not players who are worried about the negatives of HS soccer. They are not top 25 starting caliber players. GDAs standards are really designed for elite players. ive seem maybe 12 of those across all of the North Est in the last 5 years

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Good players? Maybe. But they are not difference makers. They are not players who are worried about the negatives of HS soccer. They are not top 25 starting caliber players. GDAs standards are really designed for elite players. ive seem maybe 12 of those across all of the North Est in the last 5 years
                So what? These are businesses? They have nothing to do with 12 elite players. These are products.... leagues for affluent kids that want to play soccer. They all market themselves as being for elite players. Can't you differentiate marketing from reality?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  if GDA were stronger. Thats the idiotic statement.

                  If TALENT determined who played where, then maybe. NONE of the girls leagues are about talent. They are about volume. Who can pay. The better players you refer to are not there in the numbers required to support a high level league.

                  Its not about bypassing HS soccer. HS soccer is mostly rubbish. The simple fact is there are not enough talented kids to support a high level league with high level aspirations like practice game ratios, rest etc.
                  Of course, particularly when GDA is simply too large. All it did was water down a landscape that was already badly watered logged. If it were much, much smaller then it would concentrate the talent and the players would get so much more out of it. Top players need to be challenged by other top players, by both their teammates and competitors. For the few quality players in the system they're not getting that now. Yes I know geography is an issue if you shrink the league. But hell, now Fury is going to go FL to play a regular league game and OW played Top Hat (Atlanta) last weekend. The travel already is absurd. It seems the only people benefiting is the travel industry

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    So what? These are businesses? They have nothing to do with 12 elite players. These are products.... leagues for affluent kids that want to play soccer. They all market themselves as being for elite players. Can't you differentiate marketing from reality?
                    Went right over your head

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Of course, particularly when GDA is simply too large. All it did was water down a landscape that was already badly watered logged. If it were much, much smaller then it would concentrate the talent and the players would get so much more out of it. Top players need to be challenged by other top players, by both their teammates and competitors. For the few quality players in the system they're not getting that now. Yes I know geography is an issue if you shrink the league. But hell, now Fury is going to go FL to play a regular league game and OW played Top Hat (Atlanta) last weekend. The travel already is absurd. It seems the only people benefiting is the travel industry
                      If they simply regionalized the league into smaller discreet regions and rid of all nonsensical "national competitions". The league would improve one hundred percent overnight. If they would just accommodate HS play somehow for the kids that want it, it would improve a thousand percent. It would much more affordable, and be therfore more desirable and more likely to capture and keep more talent for a longer period of time.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        If they simply regionalized the league into smaller discreet regions and rid of all nonsensical "national competitions". The league would improve one hundred percent overnight. If they would just accommodate HS play somehow for the kids that want it, it would improve a thousand percent. It would much more affordable, and be therfore more desirable and more likely to capture and keep more talent for a longer period of time.
                        There's already a league that does that. If you want to get into the widget market, you have to sell different widgets and try to convince people they are better widgets. If enough do, you win. If enough don't, you lose.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          There's already a league that does that. If you want to get into the widget market, you have to sell different widgets and try to convince people they are better widgets. If enough do, you win. If enough don't, you lose.
                          There is one federation and they only run one league for girls. There will be no other league like it. They could have been the strongest league hands down in a heart beat if that was what the wanted to be. Clearly they have a different agenda.

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                            "WE WERE TOLD WE COULD PLAY BOTH"
                            We did not chose to do so without the clubs blessing. So please stop bashing the kids.

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                              Here's a solution that would never happen because all these leagues are about the money and not about development: There should be one DA team per club consolidating the best players from the hs age groups. Clubs can have other teams where kids can play hs but the DA team would have to be all in.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Here's a solution that would never happen because all these leagues are about the money and not about development: There should be one DA team per club consolidating the best players from the hs age groups. Clubs can have other teams where kids can play hs but the DA team would have to be all in.
                                That's not development, that's HS.

                                How does it help to develop a 16 year old to play with a 13 year old?

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