The Untold Truth of PDA

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;3036574]First year PDA parent here. Most of the stuff on here is not true. It's true that the rosters are always topped off and I have to admit that was one of my concerns. In the end this has pushed my D to work hard and improve in the areas where she is not strong. Her level now after 6 months is at it's best and this would not be possible had we made a different choice. Some girls from the previous year won't be returning and that's a sad fact because they are all very talented but that's part of the package. We knew the deal when we signed up and we were prepared to walk away in 6 months if it didn't work out, fortunately it did.[/

Wow lucky you! That is not the case for the majority of the families. But you wouldn’t know since it’s only been 6 months. See after a full year when your daughter no longer starts, plays 15 min tops sometimes 10 min a half lucky to get to 15 and her game gets worse. Realize you have to take her to privates Bc everyone else is. So you are at PDA 7 days a week. Then your daughter gets upset and wants to leave Bc she actually loves soccer and wants to play full games all the time. So you go to your new club and the coach has to re-train her because of all the bad habits she picked up. Now that’s the truth. I only know of a small handful of successful kids at PDA that are truly happy and can name them all- which I would never do but it’s the truth. The other is denial.

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PDA will never stop recruiting kids to replace his daughter. PDA has no loyalty to anyone other than the next paying customer.

And customers/parents have no loyalty to clubs. It’s a two-way street of parents being unrealistic and clubs looking for the best talent. That’s the nature of competitive sports.

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And customers/parents have no loyalty to clubs. It’s a two-way street of parents being unrealistic and clubs looking for the best talent. That’s the nature of competitive sports.

Dude. It's a business. No one expects unconditional loyalty here in either direction. However, I'd expect the club honors the contract for the "current" paying customers and that means stop recruiting players all year long and focus on your "current" paying players instead.

That's not too much to ask.

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Dude. It's a business. No one expects unconditional loyalty here in either direction. However, I'd expect the club honors the contract for the "current" paying customers and that means stop recruiting players all year long and focus on your "current" paying players instead.

That's not too much to ask.

100% - the others do NOT do it like PDA at all. Across the country and in our tri-state. We know it’s all for money and we get it! We are all business people as well. Some of us own large companies. The one thing we don’t do to our paying customers is stop giving them what they pay for or have so many unhappy customers. Reviews matter and PDA’s reviews are the worst. So from a true business perspective it’s a failure- take that to the owner- as a former Goldman guy I hope he will get it. Let him read his companies reviews.

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First year PDA parent here. Most of the stuff on here is not true. It's true that the rosters are always topped off and I have to admit that was one of my concerns. In the end this has pushed my D to work hard and improve in the areas where she is not strong. Her level now after 6 months is at it's best and this would not be possible had we made a different choice. Some girls from the previous year won't be returning and that's a sad fact because they are all very talented but that's part of the package. We knew the deal when we signed up and we were prepared to walk away in 6 months if it didn't work out, fortunately it did.[/

Wow lucky you! That is not the case for the majority of the families. But you wouldn’t know since it’s only been 6 months. See after a full year when your daughter no longer starts, plays 15 min tops sometimes 10 min a half lucky to get to 15 and her game gets worse. Realize you have to take her to privates Bc everyone else is. So you are at PDA 7 days a week. Then your daughter gets upset and wants to leave Bc she actually loves soccer and wants to play full games all the time. So you go to your new club and the coach has to re-train her because of all the bad habits she picked up. Now that’s the truth. I only know of a small handful of successful kids at PDA that are truly happy and can name them all- which I would never do but it’s the truth. The other is denial.

Sorry you have had so many fake incidents that never occurred. Sounds like a coach that constantly losing players to PDA. We watched a lot of the older PDA girls play in FL and the quality is everywhere from individual skills to organized and disciplined group playing. The comments from the parents on the opposing teams was always positive.

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You are funny. I guess you are totally cool paying $3K+ a year and watching your D’s playtime getting cut when new players keep getting added throughout the season. I bet it it totally reasonable for you to see players trying out week after week during the practice and taking away the time you paid to the coach.

Ouch!

You know damn well you and your wife were high fiving each other when PDA wanted your superstar and then when they kept on recruiting thats only when you got upset. It is understandable but it is reality everywhere in the ecnl. Its not an easy place to play.. Expect at least one practice player at every session, usually two. Thats just how it goes.

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Sorry you have had so many fake incidents that never occurred. Sounds like a coach that constantly losing players to PDA. We watched a lot of the older PDA girls play in FL and the quality is everywhere from individual skills to organized and disciplined group playing. The comments from the parents on the opposing teams was always positive.

The comments outside of NJ have always been good. Parents would say how much their daughters were looking forward to playing PDA. That’s a truth parents on this topic don’t want to hear. Teams/clubs look forward to playing PDA and that bothers you haters very much.

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I think it is really nice of PDA to give 24 girls the opportunity to play ECNL at u13. They make a lot of families happy!

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Sorry you have had so many fake incidents that never occurred. Sounds like a coach that constantly losing players to PDA. We watched a lot of the older PDA girls play in FL and the quality is everywhere from individual skills to organized and disciplined group playing. The comments from the parents on the opposing teams was always positive.

All completely true. I understand you may need to say otherwise but it’s true. The parents are all not happy complaining constantly but for some reason don’t have the balls to leave. Stop bringing in new players mid season, bloating your rosters making the team not a team. Plan better practices so your current players excel - No more standing in lines in groups of 4. don’t allow your coaches to train their own players for extra money making it a must to get play time. Own it and take the feedback and make a change- you will see immediate success and make more money in the long run. Because right now in 2021 PDA has the worst reputation.

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All completely true. I understand you may need to say otherwise but it’s true. The parents are all not happy complaining constantly but for some reason don’t have the balls to leave. Stop bringing in new players mid season, bloating your rosters making the team not a team. Plan better practices so your current players excel - No more standing in lines in groups of 4. don’t allow your coaches to train their own players for extra money making it a must to get play time. Own it and take the feedback and make a change- you will see immediate success and make more money in the long run. Because right now in 2021 PDA has the worst reputation.

Yes and 23 have had a very poor showcase season LOST more this year than ever before. When you win it’s one thing/ but loses all around = something not working. Fix it!

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Wow…thank you all for giving the truth about pda. It’s been a real eye-opener.

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PDA players work hard. They all do. They know they are facing internal and external threats anytime and may lose their playtime or stop being the coach's favoriate the moment a new player comes in. The funniest thing is even PDA's proponents admit bloated roster, new players joining all year round, training is average at best and no one is playing for the team but for herself. I don't see the need to convince PDA haters or PDA loyalists. PDA loyalists know the deal and they'll keep digging in until their daughter is the one affected no matter how hard they try. PDA haters, well, they know the deal and have stayed away from it (Or in the PDA loyalist's opinion, they are just losers and are jealous.)

(Just read the thread, if you are too bored)

Since I am really bored too, I am summarizing the typical back and forth:

Anti-PDA:
All about recruiting, bringing new players all year round.

Pro-PDA:
We only want the best of the best. If you are cut or benched, you are no good. BTW, you know the deal. No refund of course because you signed up for the development, not playtime.

(Huh? I don't see anywhere in the contract saying that. What does development even mean when players don't get to verify what they've learned in the game? Oh, last time I checked, if I can't get the services I signed up for and no refund is issued, it's caleld fraud.)

Anti-PDA:
Training is terrible. No better than any clubs.

Pro-PDA:
Why me? Everyone is doing the same! BTW, you are supposed to sign up extra trainings yourself.

(Huh? I thought you are the best of the best and charge the most. Now I have to pay YOU and spend extra? What PDA training am I signing up then?)

Anti-PDA:
Players aren't developed. Just recruited, used. and tossed out when the next better player comes in.

Pro-PDA:
We provide the development platform. Players are self-motivated and are expected to compete for their spots among themselves.

(Hmmm. So what does that offer you send after the tryout even mean when anyone can just come in anytime and take the spot? To spend $400 on the uniform with an ECNL badge? What have you been developing if any players from anywhere can snatch the spot because of their better training. Maybe I should go to that club training better players so I can come back and take my spot back?)

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PDA players work hard. They all do. They know they are facing internal and external threats anytime and may lose their playtime or stop being the coach's favoriate the moment a new player comes in. The funniest thing is even PDA's proponents admit bloated roster, new players joining all year round, training is average at best and no one is playing for the team but for herself. I don't see the need to convince PDA haters or PDA loyalists. PDA loyalists know the deal and they'll keep digging in until their daughter is the one affected no matter how hard they try. PDA haters, well, they know the deal and have stayed away from it (Or in the PDA loyalist's opinion, they are just losers and are jealous.)

(Just read the thread, if you are too bored)

Since I am really bored too, I am summarizing the typical back and forth:

Anti-PDA:
All about recruiting, bringing new players all year round.

Pro-PDA:
We only want the best of the best. If you are cut or benched, you are no good. BTW, you know the deal. No refund of course because you signed up for the development, not playtime.

(Huh? I don't see anywhere in the contract saying that. What does development even mean when players don't get to verify what they've learned in the game? Oh, last time I checked, if I can't get the services I signed up for and no refund is issued, it's caleld fraud.)

Anti-PDA:
Training is terrible. No better than any clubs.

Pro-PDA:
Why me? Everyone is doing the same! BTW, you are supposed to sign up extra trainings yourself.

(Huh? I thought you are the best of the best and charge the most. Now I have to pay YOU and spend extra? What PDA training am I signing up then?)

Anti-PDA:
Players aren't developed. Just recruited, used. and tossed out when the next better player comes in.

Pro-PDA:
We provide the development platform. Players are self-motivated and are expected to compete for their spots among themselves.

(Hmmm. So what does that offer you send after the tryout even mean when anyone can just come in anytime and take the spot? To spend $400 on the uniform with an ECNL badge? What have you been developing if any players from anywhere can snatch the spot because of their better training. Maybe I should go to that club training better players so I can come back and take my spot back?)

Yes. Bring your daughters to PDA after they've been developed elsewhere. Now, you know. This goes for any ECNL team in the area, tbh

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PDA players work hard. They all do. They know they are facing internal and external threats anytime and may lose their playtime or stop being the coach's favoriate the moment a new player comes in. The funniest thing is even PDA's proponents admit bloated roster, new players joining all year round, training is average at best and no one is playing for the team but for herself. I don't see the need to convince PDA haters or PDA loyalists. PDA loyalists know the deal and they'll keep digging in until their daughter is the one affected no matter how hard they try. PDA haters, well, they know the deal and have stayed away from it (Or in the PDA loyalist's opinion, they are just losers and are jealous.)

(Just read the thread, if you are too bored)

Since I am really bored too, I am summarizing the typical back and forth:

Anti-PDA:
All about recruiting, bringing new players all year round.

Pro-PDA:
We only want the best of the best. If you are cut or benched, you are no good. BTW, you know the deal. No refund of course because you signed up for the development, not playtime.

(Huh? I don't see anywhere in the contract saying that. What does development even mean when players don't get to verify what they've learned in the game? Oh, last time I checked, if I can't get the services I signed up for and no refund is issued, it's caleld fraud.)

Anti-PDA:
Training is terrible. No better than any clubs.

Pro-PDA:
Why me? Everyone is doing the same! BTW, you are supposed to sign up extra trainings yourself.

(Huh? I thought you are the best of the best and charge the most. Now I have to pay YOU and spend extra? What PDA training am I signing up then?)

Anti-PDA:
Players aren't developed. Just recruited, used. and tossed out when the next better player comes in.

Pro-PDA:
We provide the development platform. Players are self-motivated and are expected to compete for their spots among themselves.

(Hmmm. So what does that offer you send after the tryout even mean when anyone can just come in anytime and take the spot? To spend $400 on the uniform with an ECNL badge? What have you been developing if any players from anywhere can snatch the spot because of their better training. Maybe I should go to that club training better players so I can come back and take my spot back?)

Spot on! Two more things:

Anti-PDA: *** practice is cancelled, it’s not raining and we just drove 2 hour and no one said anything? F them kid you are not playing here

Pro-PDA: oh they just cancelled. I know you have tons of homework and we drove 3 hours from PA. The coach must be so tired. I see a cloud. Let’s go to Trader Joe’s. It’s all part of the process honey.

correction on cost: the uniform fresh kit -is more like $650+ any of the extra gear at Ewing the must have sweatshirts and pajamas. $900

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Wow…thank you all for giving the truth about pda. It’s been a real eye-opener.

Welcome. This is not the half of it.