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    All I gotta say kudos to the 1 parent or maybe 2 that constantly defend FA structure and strategy. I believe they are fighting for their boys by keeping the team together. I can appreciate and respect that.

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      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      2010 FA black team is in 4th place in their USYS league this fall. The state cup finals are the 1-4 teams, in that same USYS conference…. Yay, you get to play the same 4 teams twice and celebrate being champions in a tournament nobody plays at u13! EDP tournaments have no real competition at U13+. Supercopa stops at U12. FC Delco tournament may be decent, but guess what, you won’t play their own best teams because they don’t play it. This is what the 2011 team has to look forward to next year. This isn’t bashing FA, its just stating the facts. Yes, playing Ecnl and MLS Next matters if you actually want your kid to develop and actually get exposure. Nobody is getting scouted or offered a scholarship because when they were 11 they won the NJ State Cup and went to Supercopa and lost. Enjoy this last year and then find a real program.
      Well said,

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        Anyone know the results from fanj 2010 vs Cedar stars MLS Next team and World Class ECNL Team. I heard they were playing this weekend.

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          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          Anyone know the results from fanj 2010 vs Cedar stars MLS Next team and World Class ECNL Team. I heard they were playing this weekend.
          2-2 for CSA game

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            Originally posted by Guest View Post
            Anyone know the results from fanj 2010 vs Cedar stars MLS Next team and World Class ECNL Team. I heard they were playing this weekend.
            they beat World class 3-1, guess that ends the scenario that they cannot compete in both MLS next and ECNL, clearly they are good enough ! I was at the CSA game it was all FA.

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              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              they beat World class 3-1, guess that ends the scenario that they cannot compete in both MLS next and ECNL, clearly they are good enough ! I was at the CSA game it was all FA.
              All FA in a 2-2 draw? FA scored off a PK and a scramble in the box off a corner. CSA scored from the run of play 2x. It was a even match, but definitely not "all FA". The draw vs CSA is more impressive than the win vs World Class but both good results.

              CSA is 3W - 3L and currently in 3rd place of the North East division of MLS Next. https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/standings/

              World Class is 5W - 2L - 1D in the northeast division of ECNL. They are in the North Flight and sit in 4th place of 9. https://public.totalglobalsports.com...e-standings/12

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                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                All FA in a 2-2 draw? FA scored off a PK and a scramble in the box off a corner. CSA scored from the run of play 2x. It was a even match, but definitely not "all FA". The draw vs CSA is more impressive than the win vs World Class but both good results.

                CSA is 3W - 3L and currently in 3rd place of the North East division of MLS Next. https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/standings/

                World Class is 5W - 2L - 1D in the northeast division of ECNL. They are in the North Flight and sit in 4th place of 9. https://public.totalglobalsports.com...e-standings/12
                100% good results. CSA is also 8W - 3L. Although for MLS, "friendlies" typically mean they are playing different players, positions and minutes than they normally would in a league game. They typically use friendlies to give the kids that don't play the real games, some real playing time. Regardless, I am not sure anyone has ever said FA Black 2010 wasn't a good team. I think the debate/criticism is that they just aren't playing these "better" teams on a constant basis and the exposure long term won't be the same VS the bigger alphabet leagues. Generally speaking in any sport, you want to compete against the best as much as possible to improve and develop. They will not get that in USYS unfortunately. No, not every team in ECNL or MLS is good, but on average the quality is better.

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                  I guess these scores end the 100 page chat; all the better players leave and fa teams can’t compete after u12 to bed. Lots of people have said it on here, good teams are good teams regardless of what shiny badge you are chasing or what the next soccer pathway is. The news ones always seem to be the best, we have had 101 new best pathways in this country. My kids have played in so many different best options it’s actually crazy when I think about it. Clearly the 2010 get enough competition that they can compete no problem with these teams that just seemingly pull away because they get better players or play better competition. I am sure we wouldn’t be too shocked if we had an open NJ league for all these levels and teams combined.
                  Years of experience and mistakes, do what is best for your player, at the end of the day a pathway or badge means nothing if they can’t improve as they just get cut!

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                    Less than 1% of kids in professional academies become pros (and that's if you've already made it into a club like Philadelphia Union, NYCFC, and Red Bulls). Something like 5% of kids play D1. Yeah, so, why not just enjoy your time now and let your kids have fun, since this (travel soccer) or maybe high school soccer is the end game for most people, no matter how successful your 2010/2011 club team is against other travel 2010/2011 clubs in other leagues and how many miles you drive and tournaments you win.

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                      Originally posted by Guest View Post
                      Less than 1% of kids in professional academies become pros (and that's if you've already made it into a club like Philadelphia Union, NYCFC, and Red Bulls). Something like 5% of kids play D1. Yeah, so, why not just enjoy your time now and let your kids have fun, since this (travel soccer) or maybe high school soccer is the end game for most people, no matter how successful your 2010/2011 club team is against other travel 2010/2011 clubs in other leagues and how many miles you drive and tournaments you win.
                      Can I please see where you got these stats from? I found them very hard to believe thank you

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                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        Can I please see where you got these stats from? I found them very hard to believe thank you
                        These are pretty common statistics of every sport in the USA. The math is very simple. There are 205 Div 1 boy’s soccer programs, with roughly 5,000 players. There are more teams per age group in NJ alone. Multiple by 4 age groups, then further by every state, plus international players and the numbers actually seem optimistic at 5%. Use google and a calculator.

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                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          These are pretty common statistics of every sport in the USA. The math is very simple. There are 205 Div 1 boy’s soccer programs, with roughly 5,000 players. There are more teams per age group in NJ alone. Multiple by 4 age groups, then further by every state, plus international players and the numbers actually seem optimistic at 5%. Use google and a calculator.
                          The RB just signed another Homegrown contract yesterday making it 6 player they brought up to either RB or RBII. If there ore only 20 players on their U17 roster which is the new highest age group. My calculator tells me that’s 30%. Even if you just take the two teenagers brought up straight to first team that’s 10%.

                          There are about 10 clubs in NJ who have players commit to college D1-D3. The put out a list every year. So the percentage from those clubs is much much higher, especially at the MLSN level.

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            These are pretty common statistics of every sport in the USA. The math is very simple. There are 205 Div 1 boy’s soccer programs, with roughly 5,000 players. There are more teams per age group in NJ alone. Multiple by 4 age groups, then further by every state, plus international players and the numbers actually seem optimistic at 5%. Use google and a calculator.
                            so very true - the emotionally invested parents never believe these stats. Throw in the fact that more D1-D3 schools are importing foreign players that number will decrease. so many stories of kids spending their youth in cars traveling to soccer games-5-10K spent on soccer trips to europe, Cali and florida only to quit playing in college or play on the same field as kids that played mosa and rec.

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                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              The RB just signed another Homegrown contract yesterday making it 6 player they brought up to either RB or RBII. If there ore only 20 players on their U17 roster which is the new highest age group. My calculator tells me that’s 30%. Even if you just take the two teenagers brought up straight to first team that’s 10%.

                              There are about 10 clubs in NJ who have players commit to college D1-D3. The put out a list every year. So the percentage from those clubs is much much higher, especially at the MLSN level.
                              RB and MLS will sign homegrowns for PR and MLS (MLS next pro league) quotas and roster fill, so an increase is due to the increase on opportunity - which isn't a bad thing either. look at the usl players now in the mls.

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                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                The RB just signed another Homegrown contract yesterday making it 6 player they brought up to either RB or RBII. If there ore only 20 players on their U17 roster which is the new highest age group. My calculator tells me that’s 30%. Even if you just take the two teenagers brought up straight to first team that’s 10%.

                                There are about 10 clubs in NJ who have players commit to college D1-D3. The put out a list every year. So the percentage from those clubs is much much higher, especially at the MLSN level.
                                I think something was lost in the translation. the 1% pro and 5% D1 is really a reflection of all the youth playing soccer as a whole. If you were to look at just those actually playing at RB, Philly, NYCFC, etc, those statistics would definitely be much higher but would also depend on which age group you start with. U15 and higher, is probably extremely high. U13/U14 would be lower. U12 and lower would be MUCH lower. Not sure if NYCFC and Philly Union churn the same way RB does at the younger groups.

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