2011 Boys

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I feel sorry for those kids. Psycho indeed. School is not important for those families I guess.

I can’t knock at parent for driving miles or hours for their kid to have a chance to play at a MLS club. I will also will never knock a parent for not driving. There are kids who drive distances in Europe to also play in their respected academies. I suppose it’s all about your prospective. However some of you would pay an average of 7000 ( which include club free, travel, personal training and meatless EDP tournaments) to play 30 minutes from home. Not sure who is Psyco, or who hates their kids but again it’s all about how you see things.

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you implied that school isn’t important to someone and said they were a psycho, but you got Butt hurt over those comments? You know school ends at 2-3pm for most. Kids. Not sure why you imply again that someone doesn’t need school. Are you not able to attend soccer practice after school?

Someone else said soccer parents are psycho and I should not have repeated it. Sorry. No need to continue this conversation. Over and out.

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I can’t knock at parent for driving miles or hours for their kid to have a chance to play at a MLS club. I will also will never knock a parent for not driving. There are kids who drive distances in Europe to also play in their respected academies. I suppose it’s all about your prospective. However some of you would pay an average of 7000 ( which include club free, travel, personal training and meatless EDP tournaments) to play 30 minutes from home. Not sure who is Psyco, or who hates their kids but again it’s all about how you see things.

If you have a full time job, you cannot drive 4 hours a day 4 days a week. Very hard for working class parents.

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If you have a full time job, you cannot drive 4 hours a day 4 days a week. Very hard for working class parents.

As a parent not involved in this previous back and forth… I disagree completely and am offended about how rude you could be saying parents who sacrifice all of their free time for their kids don’t care about school. . It sucks, but lots of us do it. I am definitely not alone. I work a full time job. I also drive 3 hours round trip for practices. I and my kids have to sit through multiple training sessions since I have 3 kids playing at different times. My kids all go to public school and do their homework every night. They are also doing well in school and playing on very good teams. It’s not easy but we make it work, as do tons of other parents who care about school and soccer. Sorry you can’t make to work for you and your family.

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MLS Next is adding new teams. They started with about 96 teams in 2020, now they have 133. The application form is right on their website:https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/application/. Unless that is a sham, what I am saying is the strong clubs will get in, so their players will not need to move. I am also making a distinction between the actual MLS academies (RB, NYCFC, Philly Union), and the rest of the MLS Next clubs, some of which are good and some are not. So yes, if a kid is good enough to win a spot at on the RB, NYCFC or Philly Union, they should try it. But going to another weaker club just because it is already in MLS Next makes no sense.

So it makes sense to play EDP against rec teams so Bobby can score a hat trick every game ? Lol

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As a parent not involved in this previous back and forth… I disagree completely and am offended about how rude you could be saying parents who sacrifice all of their free time for their kids don’t care about school. . It sucks, but lots of us do it. I am definitely not alone. I work a full time job. I also drive 3 hours round trip for practices. I and my kids have to sit through multiple training sessions since I have 3 kids playing at different times. My kids all go to public school and do their homework every night. They are also doing well in school and playing on very good teams. It’s not easy but we make it work, as do tons of other parents who care about school and soccer. Sorry you can’t make to work for you and your family.

Thank you for sharing, I am happy I am not alone. I also drove another kid for 3 years back and forth for training and games because his parents were unable to bring and carry him. It also added 30 minutes to my trip, which extended my Roy d trip to 2.15 minutes with good traffic. Yes and my kids also go to public school, I do have a full time job and they both play for the same club but differ r age groups. I live your experience.

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So it makes sense to play EDP against rec teams so Bobby can score a hat trick every game ? Lol

What makes sense is to for entry into MLS Next to be based on transparent performance criteria, not force players to join a handful of pre-selected clubs. Of those clubs, only CSA Bergen is at the same level as the MLS academies. EDP is there for the younger age groups, but has been around much longer than MLS Next. We shall how long it lasts.

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What makes sense is to for entry into MLS Next to be based on transparent performance criteria, not force players to join a handful of pre-selected clubs. Of those clubs, only CSA Bergen is at the same level as the MLS academies. EDP is there for the younger age groups, but has been around much longer than MLS Next. We shall how long it lasts.

the idea of MLS having transparent performance criteria is a good idea but just doesn’t work. They are not going to just keep
adding clubs and diluting the competition. Look at the division sizes already. You need to have the coaching staff, the facilities with ample parking to house 2 teams at 6 different age groups all playing on the same day with teams, busses and spectators at 1 location.

a young club like football academy is doing a great job at younger ages developing kids, but they are awful at the older ages. AS Junior is another club that does great developing younger kids but then doesn’t have older teams and pass the players off. Neither club has facilities or a large enough coaching staff capable of handling mls next. PDA went the opposite route. They no longer have younger boys teams and just take in all the older kids that other teams develop.

if you are judging results of the team and not player development than you are probably correct with CSA Bergen is the best, but they also are the only one that plays in a weaker North East division compared to the Mid-Atlantic the rest of the NJ based teams play in. If you are looking at player development and combing through division 1 soccer team rosters than I would say PDA is doing the best job placing kids into schools.

current MLS Next standings:

U13
CSA Bergen - 3rd / 16
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PDA - 4th /13
Real - 8th /13
TSF - 9th /13
CSA Mon - 12th / 13

U14
CSA Bergen - 11th / 18
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CSA Mon - 8th / 14
PDA - 9th / 14
TSF - 11th / 14
Real - 13th / 14

U15
CSA Bergen - 3rd / 10
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CSA Mon - 2nd / 10
PDA - have not played
Real - have not played
TSF - have not played

U16
CSA Bergen - 2nd / 14
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Real - 2nd /11
PDA - have not played
TSF - have not played
CSA Mon - have not played

U17
CSA Bergen - 2nd /10
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TSF - 2nd / 10
CSA Mon - 3rd / 10
Real - 4th / 10
PDA - have not played

U19
CSA Bergen - have not played
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Real - 1st / 10
TSF - have not played
PDA - have not played
CSA Mon - have not played

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the idea of MLS having transparent performance criteria is a good idea but just doesn’t work. They are not going to just keep
adding clubs and diluting the competition. Look at the division sizes already. You need to have the coaching staff, the facilities with ample parking to house 2 teams at 6 different age groups all playing on the same day with teams, busses and spectators at 1 location.

a young club like football academy is doing a great job at younger ages developing kids, but they are awful at the older ages. AS Junior is another club that does great developing younger kids but then doesn’t have older teams and pass the players off. Neither club has facilities or a large enough coaching staff capable of handling mls next. PDA went the opposite route. They no longer have younger boys teams and just take in all the older kids that other teams develop.

if you are judging results of the team and not player development than you are probably correct with CSA Bergen is the best, but they also are the only one that plays in a weaker North East division compared to the Mid-Atlantic the rest of the NJ based teams play in. If you are looking at player development and combing through division 1 soccer team rosters than I would say PDA is doing the best job placing kids into schools.

current MLS Next standings:

U13
CSA Bergen - 3rd / 16
——————————-
PDA - 4th /13
Real - 8th /13
TSF - 9th /13
CSA Mon - 12th / 13

U14
CSA Bergen - 11th / 18
——————————-
CSA Mon - 8th / 14
PDA - 9th / 14
TSF - 11th / 14
Real - 13th / 14

U15
CSA Bergen - 3rd / 10
——————————-
CSA Mon - 2nd / 10
PDA - have not played
Real - have not played
TSF - have not played

U16
CSA Bergen - 2nd / 14
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Real - 2nd /11
PDA - have not played
TSF - have not played
CSA Mon - have not played

U17
CSA Bergen - 2nd /10
——————————-
TSF - 2nd / 10
CSA Mon - 3rd / 10
Real - 4th / 10
PDA - have not played

U19
CSA Bergen - have not played
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Real - 1st / 10
TSF - have not played
PDA - have not played
CSA Mon - have not played

respect the effort that went into this post!

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Do the U15 and older teams not play during the high school season? I thought that was the case for ECNL but not MLS Next as MLS Next kids don’t play HS? It seems odd for those MLS Next teams not to have played between August and November. What am I missing?

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the idea of MLS having transparent performance criteria is a good idea but just doesn’t work. They are not going to just keep
adding clubs and diluting the competition. Look at the division sizes already. You need to have the coaching staff, the facilities with ample parking to house 2 teams at 6 different age groups all playing on the same day with teams, busses and spectators at 1 location.

a young club like football academy is doing a great job at younger ages developing kids, but they are awful at the older ages. AS Junior is another club that does great developing younger kids but then doesn’t have older teams and pass the players off. Neither club has facilities or a large enough coaching staff capable of handling mls next. PDA went the opposite route. They no longer have younger boys teams and just take in all the older kids that other teams develop.

if you are judging results of the team and not player development than you are probably correct with CSA Bergen is the best, but they also are the only one that plays in a weaker North East division compared to the Mid-Atlantic the rest of the NJ based teams play in. If you are looking at player development and combing through division 1 soccer team rosters than I would say PDA is doing the best job placing kids into schools.

current MLS Next standings:

U13
CSA Bergen - 3rd / 16
——————————-
PDA - 4th /13
Real - 8th /13
TSF - 9th /13
CSA Mon - 12th / 13

U14
CSA Bergen - 11th / 18
——————————-
CSA Mon - 8th / 14
PDA - 9th / 14
TSF - 11th / 14
Real - 13th / 14

U15
CSA Bergen - 3rd / 10
——————————-
CSA Mon - 2nd / 10
PDA - have not played
Real - have not played
TSF - have not played

U16
CSA Bergen - 2nd / 14
——————————-
Real - 2nd /11
PDA - have not played
TSF - have not played
CSA Mon - have not played

U17
CSA Bergen - 2nd /10
——————————-
TSF - 2nd / 10
CSA Mon - 3rd / 10
Real - 4th / 10
PDA - have not played

U19
CSA Bergen - have not played
——————————-
Real - 1st / 10
TSF - have not played
PDA - have not played
CSA Mon - have not played

Thank you for posting information. Not sure the Northeast division is weaker than Mid-Atlantic. Maybe you're right, but what is that statement based on? CSA Bergen would be a top team in Mid-Atlantic as well. Also not sure if we have a comparative study of parking facilities, but rewarding clubs based on the size of parking facilities seems sad. FA older teams are not good simply because those kids joined the club at an older age and were not developed by FA. Philly Ukrainians are another club that should be in MLS Next. Clubs like PDA just wait for players to come to them, as you said, but they definitely have younger teams. Maybe they have great parking facilities.

My larger point is that a country this size needs more professional clubs and feeder MLS Next clubs. NJ alone has more than 9 million people, roughly the size of Portugal. But only one professional club, RBs.

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Thank you for posting information. Not sure the Northeast division is weaker than Mid-Atlantic. Maybe you're right, but what is that statement based on? CSA Bergen would be a top team in Mid-Atlantic as well. Also not sure if we have a comparative study of parking facilities, but rewarding clubs based on the size of parking facilities seems sad. FA older teams are not good simply because those kids joined the club at an older age and were not developed by FA. Philly Ukrainians are another club that should be in MLS Next. Clubs like PDA just wait for players to come to them, as you said, but they definitely have younger teams. Maybe they have great parking facilities.

My larger point is that a country this size needs more professional clubs and feeder MLS Next clubs. NJ alone has more than 9 million people, roughly the size of Portugal. But only one professional club, RBs.

You make it sound like PDA is sitting outside of clubs in a white van and a handful of candy. I’m pretty sure parents and players show up to tryouts voluntarily.

The MLS is not a relegation league so i’m not sure where you are going with more teams from NJ. Teams have to be invited and I am not sure where else you would be able to support another team. On a good day RB stadium has 10k fans.

The NPSL is the 3rd tier in pro soccer and NJ has a number of teams including the national champion. The far majority of players in that league have pro experience in the mls and overseas. Those teams do not have youth teams.

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MOSA Curci Cup - is that still a competition exclusive for town travel teams? it looks like Cedar Stars (Lacey) won using outside CSA Monmouth players.

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MOSA Curci Cup - is that still a competition exclusive for town travel teams? it looks like Cedar Stars (Lacey) won using outside CSA Monmouth players.

it’s a small tournament for teams that are registered in the MOSA league. (Monmouth Ocean Soccer Association) Lacey does have a few players that are secondary carded on the Lacey team and primary carded on different teams. They also are playing in the 2010 age group and using 2010 (completely legal) age player as well even though the name says 2011.

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MOSA Curci Cup - is that still a competition exclusive for town travel teams? it looks like Cedar Stars (Lacey) won using outside CSA Monmouth players.

Shady?