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    I'm guessing a lot of SJEB or SJEB Rush parents or coaches on this thread. Way to much love for a club that really doesn't get talked about much. My biggest question is this....IF they had such great training then why do their B team suck so bad? Sure they may have a player or 3 that are technically good but as a whole they are bad....real bad, across the board. That means they are either not training the B teams or they cherry pick the best players around and ride them till the leave or someone better comes along. I could understand up north why a 2nd team could be bad since there are far more options but not so many options in SJ.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Probably a slight exaggeration, but I would definitely recommend it to PDA White parents. The drive is not that bad considering.
      An hour and a half drive down 295 during rush hour isn't bad? Why not just go to Bucks or CSA or one of the many NY teams?

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        Their B teams are actually very skilled and always improving. You have to remember they are playing against A-teams that are only focused on winning and not development.


        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I'm guessing a lot of SJEB or SJEB Rush parents or coaches on this thread. Way to much love for a club that really doesn't get talked about much. My biggest question is this....IF they had such great training then why do their B team suck so bad? Sure they may have a player or 3 that are technically good but as a whole they are bad....real bad, across the board. That means they are either not training the B teams or they cherry pick the best players around and ride them till the leave or someone better comes along. I could understand up north why a 2nd team could be bad since there are far more options but not so many options in SJ.

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          Do what you want of course. I’m just saying give it a look and you will see what I mean.


          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          An hour and a half drive down 295 during rush hour isn't bad? Why not just go to Bucks or CSA or one of the many NY teams?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I'm guessing a lot of SJEB or SJEB Rush parents or coaches on this thread. Way to much love for a club that really doesn't get talked about much. My biggest question is this....IF they had such great training then why do their B team suck so bad? Sure they may have a player or 3 that are technically good but as a whole they are bad....real bad, across the board. That means they are either not training the B teams or they cherry pick the best players around and ride them till the leave or someone better comes along. I could understand up north why a 2nd team could be bad since there are far more options but not so many options in SJ.
            Development gets so overblown on these boards. Every kid has a ceiling, good training environments helps get them there. However, the best coach in the world can’t take a kid with a low ceiling (based on athletic ability, vision etc) and turn them into a player. Having good teams is about attracting the kids with the most potential/talent. The Clubs that do that the best tend to have the most success.

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              But of course you want the best training for the high ceiling kids as well. That’s what they get at sjeb. You’re right though, not at the recruiting clubs.


              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Development gets so overblown on these boards. Every kid has a ceiling, good training environments helps get them there. However, the best coach in the world can’t take a kid with a low ceiling (based on athletic ability, vision etc) and turn them into a player. Having good teams is about attracting the kids with the most potential/talent. The Clubs that do that the best tend to have the most success.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                But of course you want the best training for the high ceiling kids as well. That’s what they get at sjeb. You’re right though, not at the recruiting clubs.
                Only CSA monmouth might be better than SJEB when it comes to producing high level players. They have a great history esp on girls side. Players are home grown from early age and move on to play at high level colleges on a regular basis and in high numbers. This new league will only accelerate these figures which are quite impressive already.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Only CSA monmouth might be better than SJEB when it comes to producing high level players. They have a great history esp on girls side. Players are home grown from early age and move on to play at high level colleges on a regular basis and in high numbers. This new league will only accelerate these figures which are quite impressive already.

                  ECNLs college placement numbers are hard to argue with. Over 50% of the league goes D1. Of course kids from other leagues are talented and go on to play in college, but ECNL is the clearest path. Plenty of ways to get there, ECNL is just a good option if it works for you.

                  Girls ECNL Class of 2019: 1,633
                  Total Players Playing Collegiate Soccer: 1,156
                  Division I: 847
                  Division II, III, NAIA + Other: 309
                  Undecided: 462

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                    Yes but those are national figures. As far as local, many many other good options.


                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    ECNLs college placement numbers are hard to argue with. Over 50% of the league goes D1. Of course kids from other leagues are talented and go on to play in college, but ECNL is the clearest path. Plenty of ways to get there, ECNL is just a good option if it works for you.

                    Girls ECNL Class of 2019: 1,633
                    Total Players Playing Collegiate Soccer: 1,156
                    Division I: 847
                    Division II, III, NAIA + Other: 309
                    Undecided: 462

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Development gets so overblown on these boards. Every kid has a ceiling, good training environments helps get them there. However, the best coach in the world can’t take a kid with a low ceiling (based on athletic ability, vision etc) and turn them into a player. Having good teams is about attracting the kids with the most potential/talent. The Clubs that do that the best tend to have the most success.
                      Folks, a truer statement has never been written on this thread. The above is the absolute truth. You could have the most motivated trainer with a resume filled with experience and an “A” license training 10 players together equally 5 days per week and
                      all these players have a ceiling when it comes to development. It’s based on athleticism, speed, quickness, quick hand to eye motion & balance. These all attribute to your level of development playing sports. The business model of ECNL has been “Less is better than more” to attract these type of athletes who have these high level skills to one club. I have seen ECNL teams at ECNL Showcases who have this high level of athleticism along with the skills & technical abilities. The speed of play is just that much better than any other league.

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                        Parents,

                        This is just the excuse of ecnl teams not to focus on training and development. Players need development at every level even the top athletes. If you think your club is failing in giving proper technical training then consider sjeb. I’m just saying consider it if that’s what you’re thinking.


                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Folks, a truer statement has never been written on this thread. The above is the absolute truth. You could have the most motivated trainer with a resume filled with experience and an “A” license training 10 players together equally 5 days per week and
                        all these players have a ceiling when it comes to development. It’s based on athleticism, speed, quickness, quick hand to eye motion & balance. These all attribute to your level of development playing sports. The business model of ECNL has been “Less is better than more” to attract these type of athletes who have these high level skills to one club. I have seen ECNL teams at ECNL Showcases who have this high level of athleticism along with the skills & technical abilities. The speed of play is just that much better than any other league.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Their B teams are actually very skilled and always improving. You have to remember they are playing against A-teams that are only focused on winning and not development.
                          So what? If they were trained as well as their A teams shouldn't they put up better games? Didn't every single B team get relegated down a division since fall? Just because 1 team is a B on 1 club doesn't mean they are automatically worse than an A on another. To say that "they are playing against A-teams" doesn't mean anything when they are playing A teams that are not that good.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Development gets so overblown on these boards. Every kid has a ceiling, good training environments helps get them there. However, the best coach in the world can’t take a kid with a low ceiling (based on athletic ability, vision etc) and turn them into a player. Having good teams is about attracting the kids with the most potential/talent. The Clubs that do that the best tend to have the most success.
                            Yes every kid has a floor and ceiling but it the development that allows them to reach their ceiling. "Attracting" talent, obviously from other clubs, does not make that clubs training superior. And FYI...the best coach in the world can do more with a bunch of average players then an average coach with the best. I have seen great coaches train a group of players who were not "worthy" of starting spots on the top club roster and in a year have them going toe to toe with that very club.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Parents,

                              This is just the excuse of ecnl teams not to focus on training and development. Players need development at every level even the top athletes. If you think your club is failing in giving proper technical training then consider sjeb. I’m just saying consider it if that’s what you’re thinking.
                              Only one better then SJEB might be CSA Monmouth when it comes to player progression and development. Truth

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Agree with analysis of business model. But if anyone goes to training sessions of sjeb you will see huge difference. sjeb training far superior.
                                SJEB training superior.lol Are you serious? Have you seen the history of players that leave SJEB to play at other clubs( boys and girls). Average training, favoritism by coaches , coaches degrading players, and just bad business at top. Is it worth $3K a year, no thanks. My daughter played for SJEB w/college coaches and not once was given a player evaluation that was worth anything. Barons are about the money period.

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