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    College scouting list is great, most importantly if it includes the institution of interest to your player. I was poking fun at using national team dreams to make decisions about soccer, not the colleges.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Oh well that changes everything. Having national team scouts watch the games means they are not on the concession line so I can get served faster which is somewhat useful I suppose.
      Having National Team scouts means that your club's training staff is accountable for training and evaluation of referees too. Not just about the "1% players", Dom. Making sure that your team does more than just scrimmage at practice when they are not watching.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        College scouting list is great, most importantly if it includes the institution of interest to your player. I was poking fun at using national team dreams to make decisions about soccer, not the colleges.
        Obviously the player has to perform when being seen. The DA affords the opportunity and leaves it up to the players to capitalize on it. You are correct when you say the national team is a dream. 99.9 percent of plsyers will never realize Thst dream. But these are still kids and it’s so nice fir them to still have them.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Obviously the player has to perform when being seen. The DA affords the opportunity and leaves it up to the players to capitalize on it. You are correct when you say the national team is a dream. 99.9 percent of plsyers will never realize Thst dream. But these are still kids and it’s so nice fir them to still have them.
          I think choosing a soccer club based on presence of us scouts is a dumb reason and you think it is a fine reason. We can agree to disagree.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Not even sure you would write something so ignorant

            Let’s just overlook that these coaches came to just 1 of the games and there are 2 more lists of coaches that are similar for the other 2 games she played in.


            Duke- Robbie Church
            Penn State- Ann Cooke
            Wake Forest- Courtney Owen
            Kansas University- Mark Francis
            NYU- Michelle Canning
            Marquette- Nick Vorberg
            Columbia- Amphone Keovongmanysar
            Army/West Point- Bri Garcia
            Colorado- Danny Sanchez
            Air Force- Kiha Sutta
            Colorado State- Sea Furness
            Wyoming- Matt Callaway
            Univ of Arizona- Sandy Davison
            Texas Tech- Gibbs Keaton
            San Diego- Chassion Griggs
            Syracuse- Kelly Madsen
            Univ of Oregon- Kat Mertz
            FSU- Morinao Imaizumi
            Univ of Arkansas- Sammy Scofield
            Virginia Tech- Drew Kopp
            Univ of Virginia- Ron Raab
            Univ of Denver- Jeff Hooker
            Michigan- Jen Klein
            Maryland- Ray Leone
            William and Mary- Marsha Lycan
            Towson State- Matt Dwyer
            Univ of Nebraska at Omaha- Kelly Farrell
            Notre Dame- Lauren Sinacola
            Univ of Cincinnati- Maddie Dobyns
            W. Virginia- Lisa Stoia
            UCF- Tim Sahaydek
            Providence- Kyle Bak
            Univ of Miami- Allen Fread
            Arizona State- Jo Chubb/ Shigeyoshi Shinohara
            Northwestern- Michael Moynihan
            Fordham- Courtney??
            My guess is your daughter is on the NYCFC 03/02 team. Those heavy hitters will only go to watch players of that caliber and the teams they are playing at this showcase would also attract that level of coach.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              My guess is your daughter is on the NYCFC 03/02 team. Those heavy hitters will only go to watch players of that caliber and the teams they are playing at this showcase would also attract that level of coach.
              Wrong answer

              Csa 04

              And the csa 02 ( which is no where near the nycfc 02 teams level) had a
              Lengthier list with the same level of colleges )

              Da is alive and well . Don’t believe the ecnl propaganda. This is all about getting your daughter seen and giving them an opportunity to open a door at a university that would be harder to
              Open without the soccer component.

              Otherwise there is no reason to spend all the time we invest in practice and travel or all the money on registration and travel.

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                [QUOTE=Unregistered;2478092]I think choosing a soccer club based on presence of us scouts is a dumb reason and you think it is a fine reason. We can agree to disagree.[/QUOTE

                The college coaches are the draw. The national team coaches are a nice added benefit for the kids dreams.

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                  [QUOTE=Unregistered;2478139]
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I think choosing a soccer club based on presence of us scouts is a dumb reason and you think it is a fine reason. We can agree to disagree.[/QUOTE

                  The college coaches are the draw. The national team coaches are a nice added benefit for the kids dreams.
                  Here’s a list from csa 04 1st game of the Colorado
                  Showcase

                  Really looks like the da is dying lol




                  College coaches 4/26

                  Florida State- Mark Krikorian
                  Clemson- Jeff Robbins
                  Washington State University- John Harvey
                  Pitt- Ben Waldrum
                  UC San Diego- Greg LaPorte
                  Notre Dame- Dawn Siergiej
                  Penn State- Tim Wassell
                  Hawaii- Rachael Doyle
                  Villanova- Daniel Clitnovici
                  Loyola Maryland- Morgan Ruhl
                  U Conn- Vanessa Philips
                  University of Denver- Levi Rossi
                  Santa Clara- Greg Murphy
                  Univ. of Arizona- Sandy Davison
                  Pepperdine- Tim Ward
                  Boston College- Jamie Kranich , Jason Lowe
                  Univ of Richmond- Marty Beall
                  Seton Hall- Emma Clark
                  NC State- Tim Santoro
                  San Diego State- Chassion Griggs
                  Northeastern- Alan Goggs
                  Univ South Carolina- Sammy Towne
                  Arizona State- Shigeyoshi Shinohara
                  Michigan State- Tammy Farnum
                  Vanderbilt- Darren Ambrose
                  Univ of Montana- Chris Citowicki
                  Virginia Tech- Charles “Chugger” Adair
                  Univ of Utah- Scott Halasz
                  Loyola of Chicago- Barry Bimbi
                  Humboldt State Univ- Paul Karver
                  Univ of N. Dakota- Damien Macias
                  Univ of Oregon- manny Martins
                  Univ of W. Oregon- Kacey Bingham

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Wrong answer

                    Csa 04

                    And the csa 02 ( which is no where near the nycfc 02 teams level) had a
                    Lengthier list with the same level of colleges )

                    Da is alive and well . Don’t believe the ecnl propaganda. This is all about getting your daughter seen and giving them an opportunity to open a door at a university that would be harder to
                    Open without the soccer component.

                    Otherwise there is no reason to spend all the time we invest in practice and travel or all the money on registration and travel.
                    DA and ECNL offer the same exposure and there is not a close 3rd. DA does have higher training standards and the presence of USSF staff does give the impression clubs are being held to those standards. ECNL in the North East is positioning itself as the better league and that might be true but the truth is after Stars and PDA all the GDA and ECNL clubs are similar. And I will argue as a collective the NJ, PA, MD GDA teams are better than ECNL. I do not know enough about the NY and New England teams to make the same statement.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Having National Team scouts means that your club's training staff is accountable for training and evaluation of referees too. Not just about the "1% players", Dom. Making sure that your team does more than just scrimmage at practice when they are not watching.
                      Ha, isn't that the truth!

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        DA and ECNL offer the same exposure and there is not a close 3rd. DA does have higher training standards and the presence of USSF staff does give the impression clubs are being held to those standards. ECNL in the North East is positioning itself as the better league and that might be true but the truth is after Stars and PDA all the GDA and ECNL clubs are similar. And I will argue as a collective the NJ, PA, MD GDA teams are better than ECNL. I do not know enough about the NY and New England teams to make the same statement.
                        Nor should you. What goes on is NY or CT or Mass may be interesting but we all need to choose a local option to teach our players the game. For some that will be an ecnl club, for some places a gda club, for some places it will be a club in some other league. PDA may be great but pda is of no use to a player outside of their area ( or budget for that matter).

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          DA and ECNL offer the same exposure and there is not a close 3rd. DA does have higher training standards and the presence of USSF staff does give the impression clubs are being held to those standards. ECNL in the North East is positioning itself as the better league and that might be true but the truth is after Stars and PDA all the GDA and ECNL clubs are similar. And I will argue as a collective the NJ, PA, MD GDA teams are better than ECNL. I do not know enough about the NY and New England teams to make the same statement.
                          ECNL has only one standard. It's marketing to desperate parents.

                          The difference between teams is not necessarily as big. For instance, in the last 2 years ,everyone would bash NPL or NL teams. Its was easy, because ECNL teams would not cross paths with those teams. Now that SUSA made ECNL - they do well in ECNL, frequently better than Match Fit or World Class. In the meantime SSS, PSA and STA would frequently outplay SUSA in NPL - yet somehow they are not at the same level? ECNL's strength is its ability to draw in college coaches - and now GDA is doing it.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Wrong answer



                            Da is alive and well . Don’t believe the ecnl propaganda. This is all about getting your daughter seen and giving them an opportunity to open a door at a university that would be harder to
                            Open without the soccer component.

                            Otherwise there is no reason to spend all the time we invest in practice and travel or all the money on registration and travel.
                            Yes. DA is alive and well. There needs to be more info like this shared because too many people get turned off by DA that just don't know. Its crazy how parents believe everything they here from Bucci, Oneil and other ECNL Generals. Yea yea the whole can't play HS school thing but there are so many positives about DA that no body talks about because all of ECNL proponents make you think otherwise

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Nor should you. What goes on is NY or CT or Mass may be interesting but we all need to choose a local option to teach our players the game. For some that will be an ecnl club, for some places a gda club, for some places it will be a club in some other league. PDA may be great but pda is of no use to a player outside of their area ( or budget for that matter).
                              PDA is an anomaly. Their area is the entire state of NJ, all of eastern PA (from the SWB area to Philly), a good portion of CT, all of the NYC metropolitan area and who knows how far into NY state they go. It is not uncommon to have all 4 of those states represented on a single PDA team.

                              We should care a little about the strength of other clubs in our leagues from other areas since these are the teams our kids will be playing against for next few years. But your point is well taken... worry about your own first!

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                ECNL has only one standard. It's marketing to desperate parents.

                                The difference between teams is not necessarily as big. For instance, in the last 2 years ,everyone would bash NPL or NL teams. Its was easy, because ECNL teams would not cross paths with those teams. Now that SUSA made ECNL - they do well in ECNL, frequently better than Match Fit or World Class. In the meantime SSS, PSA and STA would frequently outplay SUSA in NPL - yet somehow they are not at the same level? ECNL's strength is its ability to draw in college coaches - and now GDA is doing it.
                                The difference now is as the players get older they leave nl programs for ecnl and da because the exposure level
                                Is far superior

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