ODP East Region Camp Invites

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It's a mixed bag of talent levels dependant upon the age group levels. In three years doing this son's ODP teams has had a bunch MLS next and ecnl players on it, including this year. There are also players from E64 teams, the USYS divisions then some below that. My son has turned down invites from couple of MLS next teams where he'd start, as their is a time and place to go to them.

Many games against other states end up being lopsided in our favor but that is truly a testament to the quality of the boys on this team.

In the end my son enjoys it a lot, plays with pride that he represents NJ, made a bunch of new friends which he always runs into during league games and tournaments and has liked the coaching a lot as well. So sure there are a ton of things that can be done for that money, but personally I wouldn't stop going to ODP until he's somewhere that just doesn't allow him to any longer or this group decides to go their separate ways before they complete their ODP full run.

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Money grab at its finest. Not what it used to be at all

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Money grab at its finest. Not what it used to be at all

False. State teams especially NJ and PA are money making operations coz they take in any and everybody. But making it to the next level i.e Regional ID is much harder and the players at that level are truly talented. NY has far fewer kids on the team, so NY ODP still carries some heft compared to it's neighbors

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False. State teams especially NJ and PA are money making operations coz they take in any and everybody. But making it to the next level i.e Regional ID is much harder and the players at that level are truly talented. NY has far fewer kids on the team, so NY ODP still carries some heft compared to it's neighbors

The NY teams stink in comparison to NJ or PA. So if they are taking cream of the crop while nj and pa take anyone then how can those diluted nj and pa teams who have to split the anyone talent still win. I saw Nj, PA beat alot of teams this weekend....yes they take too many and is a money grab just like ecnl which now has these new rl leagues grabbing money. As person prior said was a good experience taking away the whole money grab commenh

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The NY teams stink in comparison to NJ or PA. So if they are taking cream of the crop while nj and pa take anyone then how can those diluted nj and pa teams who have to split the anyone talent still win. I saw Nj, PA beat alot of teams this weekend....yes they take too many and is a money grab just like ecnl which now has these new rl leagues grabbing money. As person prior said was a good experience taking away the whole money grab commenh

Sounds to me like someone's kid didn't make the odp, so now to justify it you say how much it sucks. What amazing club and outside training does your future womans national team play for? I'm betting shes getting the top notch training with the most talented coaches on the east coast and plays with all the cream of the crop players as well. Just like everyone says mfs sucks, pda sucks, etc.... it's so funny how everyone on her is an expert on all things soccer and yet their kid is playing edp.

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I understand how much it is, I was asking since the poster said it was a money grab, tell me what programs there are that are free that gets my kid in front of recruiters.

With 1k I can take my daughter to 4 - 6 ID camps to schools that we are actually interested in. 5 coaches from D1 schools are better than 100 coaches from D3 schools any day of the week.

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False. State teams especially NJ and PA are money making operations coz they take in any and everybody. But making it to the next level i.e Regional ID is much harder and the players at that level are truly talented. NY has far fewer kids on the team, so NY ODP still carries some heft compared to it's neighbors

They don't take everybody, Ds age (HS age) had over 150 at 1st stage and about 90 at 2nd stage and ended with a pool of a little over 50 of which most never showed to anything. Should ODP change how things are done, yes, they do way to many events and don't take into consideration ECNL, ECRL, or GA events when doing the scheduling which was the main complaint from parents and why almost all if not all are not coming back next year. Ds team completely flattened 2 states that generally see a bulk of the Eastern invites (10 players between the 2 states that made region pool last year). With that though, I am not completely in NJ ODPs corner.



My suggestions would be for ODP to start playing nice with ECNL and GA clubs, shorten the ODP season, split North and South Jersey (yes the north has more of the better clubs), no more individual friendlies - make a single event with several state ODPs like EPA, MD, DE, ENY, VA. The biggest thing NJ ODP needs to do it LOWER THE COST!

Quick numbers for everyone...We had 150 players tryout at $25/ea = $3,750, then we had over 50 players in the pool, we'll say 55, at about $1200/ea = $66,000. So 1 age group brought in $70k. You can't tell me that between field rentals, uniform kit, event fees, and coaches that is was $70k. Even if half of the player pool received a 50% discount that is still $50k.

-This should not cost between $50k-$70k/yr per team-
7 practices on fields shared with other ages
3 separate friendlies (NJYS, EPA, and MD) against only a single other state which lead to having 1 or 2 games
1 friendly (Virginia) that is more of a tournament and the best event next to the East Regional
1 sub-regional (ENY) that most don't want to go to
2 inter squad events (Columbus and Memorial Day) that parents and players really don't want to do as they wind up playing against a lower aged team. At least in years past EPA came for a rematch

For anyone who wants some real good reading on how much ODP brings in for NJYS and how much is spent....

https://projects.propublica.org/nonp...ions/222339547

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With 1k I can take my daughter to 4 - 6 ID camps to schools that we are actually interested in. 5 coaches from D1 schools are better than 100 coaches from D3 schools any day of the week.

Not really, those 5 D1 schools might not want anything to do with her while she may see 10-20+ D3s that may want to actively recruit her. D3s can't hand out sports scholarships but they will come up with creative financial aide to secure athletes they are interested in.

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ODP is really good for travel team players looking for more touches.. that's about it

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Just got word that some players have been invited to Eastern ID camp that have been injured and out for months with another that had quit ODP back in Nov. ODP in NJ is horse $h!t. How can anyone justify sending invites to players who didn't play or show up to anything over players that have?

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Just got word that some players have been invited to Eastern ID camp that have been injured and out for months with another that had quit ODP back in Nov. ODP in NJ is horse $h!t. How can anyone justify sending invites to players who didn't play or show up to anything over players that have?

I'm calling bull**** on that. I'm affiliated with USYS and I can confirm NO kids received offers that didn't deserve them. Attendance was a major factor in offers, as well as performance. My guess is you feel your child deserved an invite and didn't receive one. I suggest that if you know for fact about what you claim, send Erika from ODP a email with the names and I can guarantee she will look into this.

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I'm calling bull**** on that. I'm affiliated with USYS and I can confirm NO kids received offers that didn't deserve them. Attendance was a major factor in offers, as well as performance. My guess is you feel your child deserved an invite and didn't receive one. I suggest that if you know for fact about what you claim, send Erika from ODP a email with the names and I can guarantee she will look into this.

So, inability to attend the regional tournament would be a big factor in offering players an invite? I know a few players who didn't receive offers that dominated at every event outside of the regional tournament. Not a good look.

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So, inability to attend the regional tournament would be a big factor in offering players an invite? I know a few players who didn't receive offers that dominated at every event outside of the regional tournament. Not a good look.

And good luck even getting a response from Erika.

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So, inability to attend the regional tournament would be a big factor in offering players an invite? I know a few players who didn't receive offers that dominated at every event outside of the regional tournament. Not a good look.

Regional tournament is when the regional scouts were there. That's the whole purpose of the tournament, to be seen by the regional scouts. So yes, you could have been the most amazing player in the universe, but if you didn't attend when the scouts were there to see you, than how can you expect to be chosen?

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Just got word that some players have been invited to Eastern ID camp that have been injured and out for months with another that had quit ODP back in Nov. ODP in NJ is horse $h!t. How can anyone justify sending invites to players who didn't play or show up to anything over players that have?

Waaaaaaa..... my kid didn't get an invite.......