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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Weren't you just making note of the Senate bill increasing sanctions on Russia just a few days ago? Did Trump veto that bill?

    How many investgations do you want? The House has one, the Senate has one, the FBI has been investigating for a year now. DHS has made recommendations (which were ignored) during Obama's last year in office and now we have Mueller looking into it. What exactly do you think Trump should be doing that isn't already being done?
    Are you serious??? How about publicly condemning what Putin did? How about publicly reassuring the American people that he is alarmed and concerned?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      LOL, the reasons the E Mail" matter " is so important is that they are the missing pieces of a puzzle. A complete picture can't be seen. How deep was Hillary and Bill's Foundation ? Where there other players ? Absolutely amazing that so much " unamed sources " . Much of it made up, as the foundation for the resistance, but their own candidate scrubbed clean any possible sources, that couldn't even named " unamed " !
      Too funny. Do you think we might find anything of interest on RNC, Trump and Ban on servers, for starters???

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        No mistakes because I'm allowing for a lot of latitude....ANY of those things. You really believe the Wiki dumps and when they happened didn't have a devastating impact? Comey bombshell 8 or 9 days before the election, which reopened a wound on her greatest vulnerability as a candidate?

        Think revelations about Flynn and Kushner 10 days before the election might have had an impact?

        People talk about "deep states." The real deep state was determined that HRC was not going to be President. I haven't been even mentioned Breitbart and Infowars, etc, etc yet.
        How about a little personal responsibility ? Well I realize that it is not charactersistic of Progressive thought, but what the hell is HRC's aid Huma doing sending Classified E Mails to her husband. And what a character ! He should be hearing Clang very soon.
        Flynn and Kushner ? Back to Russia again? More unamed sources ?
        HRC was a weak candidate. Eight years of Obama dictated someone fresh and new, not the tired old Clinton machine with all the baggage. There were just enough Americans that were fed up with DEmocrats and the left lean their part has taken.

        I have never seen so much blame trying to be spread around for such a loser as HRC. Did you hear her speech at Commencement sat her old school? Pathetic.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          You're not good at logic, are you? Hillary might have made hundreds of mistakes, but there is no one who truly believes all of those other items didn't add up to 1-2%. Even Comey keeping his mouth shut a week before the election would have done it. And you're telling me Putin would waste his efforts and take those risks to NOT impact at least 1-2%? OK, sure. The fact that Hillary may have prevented herself from winning by 10-12 points has nothing to do with the fact that she still would have won by a few points without the overt interference.
          Logic? You admit HRC made "hundreds" of mistakes. Including not employing basic internet security. I put that solely on her and her campaign. Yet you insist on placing the blame on "Russia". Talk about illogical.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Too funny. Do you think we might find anything of interest on RNC, Trump and Ban on servers, for starters???
            Maybe, but unlike the DNC, they were smart enough not to be hacked, and not dumb like the DEms not to get help. But I guess when your server is in a bathroom ceiling, and the guy that set it up takes the Fith and disappears , what can you expect?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Are you serious??? How about publicly condemning what Putin did? How about publicly reassuring the American people that he is alarmed and concerned?
              Because the American people aren't alarmed and concerned . Just the MSM for ratings and some Dems. Bu other Dems, their backing away, because they realize now that it will be part of a long slow death march to 2018.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You're not good at logic, are you? Hillary might have made hundreds of mistakes, but there is no one who truly believes all of those other items didn't add up to 1-2%. Even Comey keeping his mouth shut a week before the election would have done it. And you're telling me Putin would waste his efforts and take those risks to NOT impact at least 1-2%? OK, sure. The fact that Hillary may have prevented herself from winning by 10-12 points has nothing to do with the fact that she still would have won by a few points without the overt interference.
                Are you now saying Comey was influenced by Russians to do what he did right before the election?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You are making the mistake of trying too judge actions in real time , without regard to all the information and resources that those that make such decisions have.

                  We have learned by studying history that looking back almost always reveal nuances, facts and details unknown at the present time.

                  Let's remember that in regard to any leaks of DNC E Maisl, they refused help from US INtelligence, and Podesta and others were the authors of the E Mails. That ha s never been denied. This is a case where the authors don't want to be responsible because people that they didn't want to know wha they had to say, heard what they said.

                  The first rule of communication regarding the internet is that there is no such thing as SECURE when you press the send button. Podesta and other Dems were simply dumb enough to not understand that, or they simply didn't care.
                  According to one Bernie supporter if Dems hadn't been caught with their thumb on the scales for Hillary they'd be running the country right now.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Obama thought his hands were tied. Trump's aren't. Or are they? Any reason he shouldn't act like a President -- of the USA -- and come down really hard on Russia???

                    I mean, he feels Presidential and consequential enough to pull us out of Paris and turn healthcare upside down. No reason he shouldn't be all over Russia, is there? Crickets every time this is asked.
                    Sometimes revenge is best served cold.

                    The best way to screw with Putin is to surprise him. You can't do the obvious, sanctions. When Trump responds, it will be to humiliate Putin and teach him a lesson.

                    Diplomatic maneuvers, like sanctions and complaints to The UN, don't work on criminals like Putin.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I already said Obama got outplayed. And Trump did it by specifically creating the deflection that HE was being robbed. If he wasn't going to accept the results knowing things actually were rigged in his favor, what do you think he would have been saying if Obama had exposed the interference?

                      But, AGAIN, when is Trump going to put the hammer to Russia moving forward???
                      Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, gave Trump a serious chance at defeating Clinton.

                      Trump's comment in regards to questioning the results of the election was no different than Al Gore's.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The emails lol. Can you even say what was in any of them that was actually a big deal or any different than what could be found on servers for any candidate, including surrogates for Bernie?

                        And do you really think Putin's interference was limited to Podesta and DNC emails?
                        I hate to keep pointing this out, but there is no definitive proof that Russians hacked the DNC because the DNC WOULD NOT TURN THEIR SERVERS OVER TO THE FBI.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Are you serious??? How about publicly condemning what Putin did? How about publicly reassuring the American people that he is alarmed and concerned?
                          You can't make statements like that until the investigations are complete.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            You can't make statements like that until the investigations are complete.
                            Be honest just for once. Trump has no interest in the Russia issue at all except for being worried about whether he looks bad.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Too funny. Do you think we might find anything of interest on RNC, Trump and Ban on servers, for starters???
                              What may or may not be there is purely speculation, but what we probably can be assured, the RNC didn't have their thumb on the scale to see Trump their nominee. The additional difference between the RNC and the DNC is the RNC took the advise of the FBI and DHS.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, gave Trump a serious chance at defeating Clinton.

                                Trump's comment in regards to questioning the results of the election was no different than Al Gore's.
                                I'm sorry but you are dumb. There is ZERO comparison between what Gore did (and the circumstances) and what Trump threatened (while Trump KNEW about the massive, orchestrated efforts to swing things in his favor).

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