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WAH!
Oh ya, but CNN can still report using the audio.
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Obama thought his hands were tied. Trump's aren't. Or are they? Any reason he shouldn't act like a President -- of the USA -- and come down really hard on Russia???
I mean, he feels Presidential and consequential enough to pull us out of Paris and turn healthcare upside down. No reason he shouldn't be all over Russia, is there? Crickets every time this is asked.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou and the prior poster sure are good at dodging.
Hold your deflections for just a moment. Do the items referenced likely add up to at least 1-2% of the vote???
Hillary running a **** show of a campaign cost her the election. ating the far left Bernie supporters cost her the election. The black vote didn't show up like they had for Obama, that cost her the election.
Old medical maxim. "When you hear hoofbeats, look for horses not zebras". There are many credible, factual reasons that HRC lost. But the accountability would rest with HRC, BO and the DNC. Much easier on the Dem psyche to blame boogey men.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostObama held back because after he made sure the E Mail, Server, Classified Material " matter" was made to go away, he would be looking forward to handing the keys of 1600 Pensylvania Avenue to Hillary. The shock and awe of her loss was so severe, the Dems need a playbook centered on disruption, resistance, fake news and lies to try and complete their illogical, spoiled child response of a coup to a legitimate election. They boycott the Inauguaration, their A list Hollywood numbskulls double down , and the shenanigans continue.
There is absolutely no evidence that Trump DID anything, only what he has SAID. There is now evidence that Obama DID something, and SAID nothing.
But further, what is Trump going to do about it NOW???
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostRight, Trump was totally innocent and had no clue Putin was helping him. That's why he was begging for a foreign adversary -- not just any foreign power, specifically Russia mind you -- to help him.
And now that we know Trump was playing chess while Obama was playing checkers -- by convincing his base that the election was going to be RIGGED AGAINST HIM and that HE would refuse to accept the election results so that Obama was cornered into staying silent out of fear of being accused of swaying the election -- now, now after all of that, we can of course trust that Trump is gonna hammer the crap out of Russia. I mean, he's gonna do what's right for the United States, right???
But then the Dems lost, Surprise, surprise, surprise ! Who hasn't accepted it ? Who boycotted the Inauguartion? Who is resisting ?
Listen, think outside the Dem box that is the framework of Progressive thought. Your great Progressive hero OBama got outplayed by Trump. Chess vs Checkers. Don't you think Trump is using the same tactic on Putin ? Since the days of JFK , the Russians have been the ones at the top of the list. You don't think Trump knows this? Should Trump follow Obama's failed checker game of international relations? Send a few pallets of C Notes and all will be well?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAdd to it that a small crircle of Dems, including Tim Ryan, are trying to slide Russia,Russia , Russia off the big screen , to concentrate on issues more central to the concerns of voters. Same group that wants Pelosi out. Hopefully for them they get the word out to the MSM, especially CNN. CNN was pushing yet another alleged Trump /Russia business , investment link Thursday night, and was all of a sudden removed and scrubbed from their website the next day. It didn't meet their standards, but typical CNN, it was sound enough for them on THursday. Fake News , pure and simple !
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo. It doesn't add up.
Hillary running a **** show of a campaign cost her the election. ating the far left Bernie supporters cost her the election. The black vote didn't show up like they had for Obama, that cost her the election.
Old medical maxim. "When you hear hoofbeats, look for horses not zebras". There are many credible, factual reasons that HRC lost. But the accountability would rest with HRC, BO and the DNC. Much easier on the Dem psyche to blame boogey men.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you say Trump did nothing -- contrary to all evidence -- often enough, does that make you believe it? So if Trump knew what was happening didn't he have an obligation to object? I bet even you had a clue when Wikileaks kept dumping at just the right strategic times. Or did you think there was nothing behind that???
But further, what is Trump going to do about it NOW???
We have learned by studying history that looking back almost always reveal nuances, facts and details unknown at the present time.
Let's remember that in regard to any leaks of DNC E Maisl, they refused help from US INtelligence, and Podesta and others were the authors of the E Mails. That ha s never been denied. This is a case where the authors don't want to be responsible because people that they didn't want to know wha they had to say, heard what they said.
The first rule of communication regarding the internet is that there is no such thing as SECURE when you press the send button. Podesta and other Dems were simply dumb enough to not understand that, or they simply didn't care.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBut wait, remember the screaming and yelling by Dems, even Hillary, when Trump alluded to not accepting the results ? And because he said " We'll see "
But then the Dems lost, Surprise, surprise, surprise ! Who hasn't accepted it ? Who boycotted the Inauguartion? Who is resisting ?
Listen, think outside the Dem box that is the framework of Progressive thought. Your great Progressive hero OBama got outplayed by Trump. Chess vs Checkers. Don't you think Trump is using the same tactic on Putin ? Since the days of JFK , the Russians have been the ones at the top of the list. You don't think Trump knows this? Should Trump follow Obama's failed checker game of international relations? Send a few pallets of C Notes and all will be well?
But, AGAIN, when is Trump going to put the hammer to Russia moving forward???
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou are making the mistake of trying too judge actions in real time , without regard to all the information and resources that those that make such decisions have.
We have learned by studying history that looking back almost always reveal nuances, facts and details unknown at the present time.
Let's remember that in regard to any leaks of DNC E Maisl, they refused help from US INtelligence, and Podesta and others were the authors of the E Mails. That ha s never been denied. This is a case where the authors don't want to be responsible because people that they didn't want to know wha they had to say, heard what they said.
The first rule of communication regarding the internet is that there is no such thing as SECURE when you press the send button. Podesta and other Dems were simply dumb enough to not understand that, or they simply didn't care.
And do you really think Putin's interference was limited to Podesta and DNC emails?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostObama thought his hands were tied. Trump's aren't. Or are they? Any reason he shouldn't act like a President -- of the USA -- and come down really hard on Russia???
I mean, he feels Presidential and consequential enough to pull us out of Paris and turn healthcare upside down. No reason he shouldn't be all over Russia, is there? Crickets every time this is asked.
How many investgations do you want? The House has one, the Senate has one, the FBI has been investigating for a year now. DHS has made recommendations (which were ignored) during Obama's last year in office and now we have Mueller looking into it. What exactly do you think Trump should be doing that isn't already being done?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI already said Obama got outplayed. And Trump did it by specifically creating the deflection that HE was being robbed. If he wasn't going to accept the results knowing things actually were rigged in his favor, what do you think he would have been saying if Obama had exposed the interference?
But, AGAIN, when is Trump going to put the hammer to Russia moving forward???
In regards to your question about what if, my crystal ball is n the shop. Regardless, it is irrelevant. Let's deal with the here and now.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou are making the mistake of trying too judge actions in real time , without regard to all the information and resources that those that make such decisions have.
We have learned by studying history that looking back almost always reveal nuances, facts and details unknown at the present time.
Let's remember that in regard to any leaks of DNC E Maisl, they refused help from US INtelligence, and Podesta and others were the authors of the E Mails. That ha s never been denied. This is a case where the authors don't want to be responsible because people that they didn't want to know wha they had to say, heard what they said.
The first rule of communication regarding the internet is that there is no such thing as SECURE when you press the send button. Podesta and other Dems were simply dumb enough to not understand that, or they simply didn't care.
Think revelations about Flynn and Kushner 10 days before the election might have had an impact?
People talk about "deep states." The real deep state was determined that HRC was not going to be President. I haven't been even mentioned Breitbart and Infowars, etc, etc yet.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe emails lol. Can you even say what was in any of them that was actually a big deal or any different than what could be found on servers for any candidate, including surrogates for Bernie?
And do you really think Putin's interference was limited to Podesta and DNC emails?
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