Turkey fans BOO during pre-match minute's silence for the victims of Paris attacks an

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Would he have called it in if it was a white dude? Perhaps if he was a skinhead with Nazi tatoos. Perhaps if he had been under previous investigation for criminal activity. It's all speculative. What we do know however is Mateen gave a lot of people the creeps for a long, long time. They of course were all racist Islamaphobes.

A little fact that non-gunowners apparently don't know. Actually there are lots of facts non-gunowners don't know, but thats a topic for another day. About 50% of the AR15s sold are .22 caliber which makes them only somewhat more dangerous than a pellet gun. Why you might ask? Because target shooters use a lot of ammo and .22s are cheap in comparison to higher gauge. Additionally, there is no way to monitor how much ammo is purchased. I can go from one store to another purchasing ammo and there is no way currently available to record my purchases, so until there is, putting limits on purchases can easily be defeated.

And btw, don't assume gun dealers are bad people just because they sell guns.

Limit the caliber then. And if a .22 is no more dangerous than a pellet gun, shoot your buddy with it and let us know how it goes.

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And investigate what?

A guy bought some guns and some ammo? That isn't a crime.

They had him under Investigation....twice.
They let him go ..
Just like the California case.

2 for 2...sounds like a pattern.

People are dead and the President misrepresents WHO the killer was.

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Yawn

How long have they been trying?

Old news.

Meanwhile on the Democrats side they prepare for a coronation.

Dozens of Republican convention delegates are hatching a new plan to block Donald Trump at this summer’s party meetings, in what has become the most organized effort so far to stop the businessman from becoming the GOP nominee.

The delegates are angered by Trump’s recent comments on gun control, his racial attacks on a federal judge and his sinking poll numbers. They are convinced that Trump is an insufficiently conservative candidate and believe they will find enough like-minded Republicans within the next month to change party rules and allow delegates to vote for whomever they want, regardless of who won their state caucus or primary.

The new campaign is being run by the only people who can actually make changes to party rules, rather than by pundits and media figures who have been pining for a Trump alternative. Many involved in the delegate-driven movement supported Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas in the primary but say they have no specific candidate in mind and are not taking cues from any of Trump’s vanquished opponents.

“This literally is an ‘Anybody but Trump’ movement,” said Kendal Unruh, a Republican delegate from Colorado who is leading the campaign. “Nobody has any idea who is going to step in and be the nominee, but we’re not worried about that. We’re just doing that job to make sure that he’s not the face of our party.”

The fresh wave of anti-Trump organizing comes as a growing number of Republicans have signaled that they will not support Trump for president. In addition, House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.), who is slated to chair the Republican National Convention next month in Cleveland, said in remarks released Friday that House Republicans should “follow their conscience” on whether to support Trump.

This means good news come November for the nutters i am sure.

too incoherent to govern for sure. but that has been true for a long time. only now the public is really seeing the wheels come off everyday

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They had him under Investigation....twice.
They let him go ..
Just like the California case.

2 for 2...sounds like a pattern.

People are dead and the President misrepresents WHO the killer was.

Do you understand how the world works? What law, until Sunday Morning did he violate?

Was it illegal for him to buy the weapons?

Was it illegal for him to be a bigot?

Was it illegal for him to be Muslim?

Was it illegal for him to be a repressed homosexual?

Exactly what would have been done to keep him off the street?

Is the Second Amendment the only thing that matters? Are there not other rights in our Bill of Rights that protect us?

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Do you understand how the world works? What law, until Sunday Morning did he violate?

Was it illegal for him to buy the weapons?

Was it illegal for him to be a bigot?

Was it illegal for him to be Muslim?

Was it illegal for him to be a repressed homosexual?

Exactly what would have been done to keep him off the street?

Is the Second Amendment the only thing that matters? Are there not other rights in our Bill of Rights that protect us?

Don't even bother...I had these kinds of posts to the nutters for years.....thats why i don't bother engaging anymore. When push comes to shove they just go full on nuts like the titular head of their "movement" or whatever you call it, ay least for the time being (trump).

they are the little children who had to wreck everything if the other kids didn't want them to lead the parade. If I was a conservative I would probably say the spoiled little brats needed more spankings but in reality it was something far simpler,

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The “Never Trump” forces in the Republican Party have not completely surrendered yet. The last couple of days have brought fresh speculation that Republicans may still try to pull off some sort of coup at next month’s convention, dumping Donald Trump off the ticket and replacing him with whatever cannon fodder they can find who doesn’t mind destroying his political future in service of the short-term gain of ridding the party of its association with the real-estate mogul.

Because make no mistake, destruction of his future is exactly what that sacrificial lamb would be doing. Getting rid of Trump after an angry floor fight on national television would likely irreparably rupture the relationship between party leaders and the base that voted overwhelmingly for Trump in the primaries. Any replacement would be leading a hollowed-out party for a few short months while trying to mount a comeback from way, way, way behind Hillary Clinton. It is a testament to what a toxic dumpster fire the last few weeks of Trumpism have been – the racist crusade against the judge overseeing the Trump University lawsuit, the candidate’s reaction to the Orlando massacre last weekend – that Republicans are still muttering about trying to pull off this move.

Sounds like a Civil War to me.

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Do you understand how the world works? What law, until Sunday Morning did he violate?

Was it illegal for him to buy the weapons?

Was it illegal for him to be a bigot?

Was it illegal for him to be Muslim?

Was it illegal for him to be a repressed homosexual?

Exactly what would have been done to keep him off the street?

Is the Second Amendment the only thing that matters? Are there not other rights in our Bill of Rights that protect us?

Access to his employer's records.
Copies of his psychological testing
Interviews with current co-workers.
A possible detention for a mental health evaluation based on results of the above.

He was carrying a gun, a LICENSED SECURITY GUARD in the Sate of Florida. The public has a right that those that are employed in that vocation are not a threat to those they are supposed to be protecting.

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Limit the caliber then. And if a .22 is no more dangerous than a pellet gun, shoot your buddy with it and let us know how it goes.

I wouldn't shoot my "buddy" with a pellet gun or bb gun. The point made to an obvious non-gunowner is that.22s are for target practice not for killing. But they sure are scary to a liberal.

"It feels like a bazooka — and sounds like a cannon. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary case of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable." - New York Daily News' Gersh Kuntzman

Maybe the US ought to do like Switzerland and require all Americans military service and gun ownership.

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Don't even bother...I had these kinds of posts to the nutters for years.....thats why i don't bother engaging anymore. When push comes to shove they just go full on nuts like the titular head of their "movement" or whatever you call it, ay least for the time being (trump).

they are the little children who had to wreck everything if the other kids didn't want them to lead the parade. If I was a conservative I would probably say the spoiled little brats needed more spankings but in reality it was something far simpler,

Stop with the nonsense. 49 people are dead and it is looking more and more like there was negligence on the part of Law Enforcement.

They had this guy in their hands...just like California.. and he slipped through.
How many more times will this be happening ?

Not only did people like me lead the parade, we planned to smart ass.

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Alabama county refuses to lower flag to honor Orlando shooting victims

Alabama county officials refused to lower flags to half-staff to honor the victims of the Orlando mass shooting this week even after President Barack Obama and Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley ordered flags to be lowered.

Citing the U.S. Flag Code, Baldwin County Commissioner Tucker Dorsey told CNN affiliate WPMI that while his "heart certainly goes out to the victims and their families," the incident "doesn't meet the test of the reason for the flag to be lowered."

Wasn't this thread we are in started by a con a z z hole or holes decrying the incivility of a foreign population not respecting a moment of silence for victims?

Please proceed, cons, to denounce the redneck fellow citizens down in AL for this. And please go on as long and as white hot as you did calling out the Turks.

You wouldn't want to be a bunch of hypocrites, would you, given your affection for labeling others with that word.

tee hee
bwa ha ha

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Access to his employer's records.
Copies of his psychological testing
Interviews with current co-workers.
A possible detention for a mental health evaluation based on results of the above.

He was carrying a gun, a LICENSED SECURITY GUARD in the Sate of Florida. The public has a right that those that are employed in that vocation are not a threat to those they are supposed to be protecting.

Does the rest of the Bill of Rights mean anything to you or does it all start and end with the Second Amendment?

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Stop with the nonsense. 49 people are dead and it is looking more and more like there was negligence on the part of Law Enforcement.

They had this guy in their hands...just like California.. and he slipped through.
How many more times will this be happening ?

Not only did people like me lead the parade, we planned to smart ass.

Hey Mr strict constitutionalist.....

please cite whatever federal state pr local laws that would have allowed for him to be detained.

you aren't suggesting that he be detained illegally, are you? That after all your years of conservative law and order clap trap that we are NOT a nation of laws? Do you?

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Stop with the nonsense. 49 people are dead and it is looking more and more like there was negligence on the part of Law Enforcement.

They had this guy in their hands...just like California.. and he slipped through.
How many more times will this be happening ?

Not only did people like me lead the parade, we planned to smart ass.

What right did the FBI have to detain him? Or are you proposing that we have thought police now?

It is amazing how many rights you are willing to trample for fear of limiting one right to a simple matter of either quantity or time, or a little extra paper work.

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I wouldn't shoot my "buddy" with a pellet gun or bb gun. The point made to an obvious non-gunowner is that.22s are for target practice not for killing. But they sure are scary to a liberal.

"It feels like a bazooka — and sounds like a cannon. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary case of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable." - New York Daily News' Gersh Kuntzman

Maybe the US ought to do like Switzerland and require all Americans military service and gun ownership.

What caliber was used in Orlando?

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I wouldn't shoot my "buddy" with a pellet gun or bb gun. The point made to an obvious non-gunowner is that.22s are for target practice not for killing. But they sure are scary to a liberal.

"It feels like a bazooka — and sounds like a cannon. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary case of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable." - New York Daily News' Gersh Kuntzman

Maybe the US ought to do like Switzerland and require all Americans military service and gun ownership.

its friday so cons are wrong.

switzerland doesn't require service of all swiss, only males

it is not required that all swiss are required to won guns....required that active military keep their ASSIGNED weapons at home.

con you are just soon confused or deliberately trying to mislead, which?