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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat guy was a US Army vet who had no association with BLM. You might have heard that BLM was protesting peacefully at the time of the shooting. Notice that we aren't calling the police who murdered people at traffic stops terrorists?
Again, any activity by any group of any race who's intent is to use violence and threats to intimidate or coerce is, by definition, terrorism. I would think it certainly doesn't help the cause if the person who committed the acts is celebrated.
I'd call the police uneducated racists at the worst. Overzealous nimrods at the best. But, can't deflect onto other groups as a defense for this one. Not sure I would call the activity of some policeman their "intent", but the results surely make me ponder your point and if it applies.
Sure, #BLM have clearly denounced the killings. Many of Islamic faith do the same, as well as white folks denounce the KKK. Doesn't mean those individuals are not terrorists.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHow does one have 'association'? Is there a membership card or something? He took an opportunity during an activity organized by #BLM, and used it. How do you know he wasn't a part of #BLM?
Again, any activity by any group of any race who's intent is to use violence and threats to intimidate or coerce is, by definition, terrorism. I would think it certainly doesn't help the cause if the person who committed the acts is celebrated.
I'd call the police uneducated racists at the worst. Overzealous nimrods at the best. But, can't deflect onto other groups as a defense for this one. Not sure I would call the activity of some policeman their "intent", but the results surely make me ponder your point and if it applies.
Sure, #BLM have clearly denounced the killings. Many of Islamic faith do the same, as well as white folks denounce the KKK. Doesn't mean those individuals are not terrorists.
And of course BLM is focused on white police officers killing blacks. Duh! Can you imagine the black community not speaking out about these senseless deaths that so obviously have a racial component???
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLike we knew all along, you want to be contrarian and dig in with your misguided views.
And of course BLM is focused on white police officers killing blacks. Duh! Can you imagine the black community not speaking out about these senseless deaths that so obviously have a racial component???
I didn't post about the Chicago killings, so assume that was directed at that and won't respond...that's not the intent of why I asked if the organization should be considered terrorist. Seems like for many of you your white guilt is preventing you from having an open mind. Sad.
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Loretta ***** is a disgrace. I am watching her right now and she can't even answer a simple question. AA at its worst.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostPlease explain how they are misguided? I haven't seen a valid retort yet, just some name-calling or comments outside the definition.
I didn't post about the Chicago killings, so assume that was directed at that and won't respond...that's not the intent of why I asked if the organization should be considered terrorist. Seems like for many of you your white guilt is preventing you from having an open mind. Sad.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAre you serious? You've made it clear nothing could ever change your mind. You've been more than answered in very logical terms. Do YOU think blacks should continue being killed for nothing by police officers? What's your recommendation? Just take it?
What logical terms were those? "Because they aren't killing anybody idiot!!"...you mean that?
Do I think that? No, I do not.
Every terrorist organization has a justification on why they do what they do. It's not up to me whether they a valid or not. And, ultimately, that isn't the question. You evidently feel they have justification for acting as they do. That's fine, and is your right to feel that way.
However, none of that matters. It's a simple question if you feel those actions reach the level of terrorism. I am only looking at the actions, the results, and how they fit into the definition. My opinion of what they should do, and how they should act, is of little relevance.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat logical terms were those? "Because they aren't killing anybody idiot!!"...you mean that?
Do I think that? No, I do not.
Every terrorist organization has a justification on why they do what they do. It's not up to me whether they a valid or not. And, ultimately, that isn't the question. You evidently feel they have justification for acting as they do. That's fine, and is your right to feel that way.
However, none of that matters. It's a simple question if you feel those actions reach the level of terrorism. I am only looking at the actions, the results, and how they fit into the definition. My opinion of what they should do, and how they should act, is of little relevance.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNow you're talking in riddles. Are you now suggesting that your definition of 'terrorism' is so broad that you in some cases may believe 'terrorism' is justified? We're the civil rights marches 'terrorism'? LGBT rallies and protests?
"the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes."
I personally don't believe it's ever justified, no. I do believe in the eyes of terrorists and their organization, yes it is. More than a few have justified what happened in Dallas.
From my knowledge I wouldn't consider the civil rights movement coercion and intimidation, so I would say 'no'. I'm willing to listen and be considered wrong if more details are presented.
LGBT? One could argue that point. I'm sure there's a few private businesses who felt coerced and intimidated. Interesting example presented.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou give me too much credit. It's not my definition, it's Webster's:
"the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes."
I personally don't believe it's ever justified, no. I do believe in the eyes of terrorists and their organization, yes it is. More than a few have justified what happened in Dallas.
From my knowledge I wouldn't consider the civil rights movement coercion and intimidation, so I would say 'no'. I'm willing to listen and be considered wrong if more details are presented.
LGBT? One could argue that point. I'm sure there's a few private businesses who felt coerced and intimidated. Interesting example presented.
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Would you call the police clubbing and kicking the carp out of civil rights protesters in the sixties terrorists?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNow you think the LGBT folks MIGHT be terrorists? Violence is included in my own definition of terrorism. BLM doesn't fit.
#BLM ticks all the boxes. Violence, coercion, and intimidation are all done during these protests.
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