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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    -Only some tax payers got a cut; plenty did not. The uber rich benefited the most
    Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-20-...tax-1523007001

    So by that fact alone one should expect the top are going to benefit from tax reform.... except if you live in a high tax state like New York, California, or Massachusetts. I love to see the rich in those states whine about now having to pay their "fair share".

    -Debt was going down in the last three years of Obama's presidency as the sh*t economy he inherited finally turned around.
    No thanks to Obama, but to the perseverance of American businesses.


    -All Trump has done is send the debt skyrocketing to unsustainable levels in a strong economy. Once it starts to falter - and the signs are there that it is beginning already - the debt will only get worse.
    And the stock market will never recover. Paul Krugman said so.


    -He keeps touting the stock market but 50% of Americans own NO STOCK and 80% of the market is owned by 10% of the population.
    The stock market isn't the economy; however, any American involved in a pension/retirement program "owns" stock whether they know it or not. Would you rather see the stock market flounder?


    Needless to say many in that 10% aren't die hard Trump supporters and they certainly aren't benefiting from teh market. The wealthy simply vote in their best financial interests, whoever that may be.
    -He's hitting his base hard with cuts to farm subsidies, medicare, education, infrastructure, possibly even social security. Even they can only tolerate so much when it comes to their wallets
    Huh??? The economy is in the best shape it's been in many years.

    Hispanics flourishing in Trump economy
    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/...-trump-economy

    Household Income Jumps To All-Time Highs Under Trump — Why Isn't This Big News?
    https://www.investors.com/politics/e...trump-economy/

    According to PBS: "The poverty rate fell 0.04 percent in 2017, to 12.3 percent. That puts it slightly lower than the 2007 poverty rate, just before the recession started. The African-American poverty rate saw the biggest decline at 0.8 percent."

    The problems this country has faced in terms of subsidies, medicare, education, infrastructure and social security are all problems that both parties have continually kicked down the road instead of addressing. That's the fact of the matter and I wouldn't expect with the country fractured as it is that we should expect any miracles from Trump to solve them, particularly with Democrats fighting him on every level. And as far as the economy in 2019, all predictions for the past year have been that you should expect a slowing. Europe's economy is a mess and China's economy has been slowing.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Boy, that Tucker Fox is in some trouble. The few remaining sponsors he has are gonna bail after they hear the racists things he said on Bubba the Love Sponge.
      Tempest in a teapot. Carlson will be just fine.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        He wants 8B for the wall (haven't we gone through this debate a few times?) plus huge military increases, then huge cuts to education, EPA, state department, SS and Medicare. That won't go over well even with his base.
        Dems always like to refer to them as "cuts" when in fact it's just a matter of smaller increases.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Con is feeling encouraged ....

          😂😂😂😂😂

          I DO like the new look. Cartoon feee zone .

          I always favored original work so makes me happy

          Con?
          We knew you would Tattletale TMan. The left always likes to shutdown anything they disagree with. Perfect example is what they are doing to Tucker Carlson.

          Meanwhile the racist and pro infanticide governor is still governor of Virginia, the sexual assaulter is still his Lt governor, the anti Semite is still on the Foreign Affairs Committee and the dumb as a rock socialists are getting plenty of air time.

          I like it that way. It's a sure ticket to the reelection of Trump come 2020.

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            Turkey fans BOO during pre-match minute's silence for the victims of Paris attacks an

            Tim Apple. Trump can't even admit his own mistakes even when the proof is irrefutable.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Tim Apple. Trump can't even admit his own mistakes even when the proof is irrefutable.

              And the more you loons get tied up in trivial details, the more petty you look...and the better he does.

              I've said it before: 2 years ago I gave him 0% chance of being re-elected. Now, I think he just has to sit there and let the left hysteria take over and he doesn't even have to put in much effort to run.

              I thank you, sincerely, for your efforts. Please, don't ever stop.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The rates don't show the whole picture. Many in high cost states are paying more, not less. Besides, Trump and the GOP have only fueled our "It's all about me" society. Changes in the tax codes have also impacted charitable giving, down in many areashttps://www.thinkadvisor.com/2018/07/13/fewer-americans-donating-to-charity/?slreturn=20190212093727. Face it, some people give only for tax savings, not because they're magnanimous. Even Trump created a fake charity to scam people. A shinning example of charity and good will. Meanwhile Jimmy Carter is ancient and still goes out to build houses.
                They are paying their fair share. What's wrong with that?

                Prior to tax reform people living in highly taxed states could deduct State and local taxes (SALT) from their federal return. Blue state spending goes unpunished. Liberal governors have no reason to be frugal as long as their local taxpayers can get their taxable income reduced at the expense of other states.

                Republican Tax reform capped the SALT deduction at 10,000.00 dollars. And now Democrats are mad because Trump won’t let them live large on your dime.

                The 10K cap on SALT in the Republican tax reform package places a higher tax burden on the rich. SALT reform removes a significant deduction and raises taxes on people who own more property and earn more money. The more money and property you have the more taxes you’d pay if you couldn’t deduct the local taxes on your federal return, thus satisfying the liberal narrative.

                Republicans passed a reform that raises taxes on the rich.

                And the first thing Blue State Democrats do is whine like stuck pigs until their Blue State Democrat governors file a lawsuit that would give those tax breaks back to the rich.

                https://granitegrok.com/blog/2018/08...pay-more-taxes

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                  Con is VERY aggrieved today. wonder what could be driving that.

                  Only one major advertiser had an ad on Tucker last night.....

                  All the rest were from nutter companies (my pillow plus fox public service ads)

                  You would think there would be a howl of protest from the "daddy" who is oh so protective of his teenage daughter ....

                  oh well. i won't repeat what tucker said ...y'all can find it if you aren't in denial

                  But this will play great layered on the epstein stuff and future installment of the presidents dizzying juxtaposition of life with porn stars next to teenage beauty pageants and chinese massage parlors .

                  Im sure its a coincidence

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                    The Republican party doesn't want the independent "PAC" ads to be shown that would run if trump was their standard bearer

                    will tie the whole party to pedophilia and other illicit behaviors. ROY MOORE TO TRUMP ETC

                    a good ad man can make a hard hitting point in 30 - 60 sec

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Tim Apple. Trump can't even admit his own mistakes even when the proof is irrefutable.
                      Who cares?

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                        As typical, Tee Hee tries to bring something up, it gets mercilessly shot down, so he shifts to talk about a Fox News something or other.

                        #hateblinds

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          They are paying their fair share. What's wrong with that?

                          Prior to tax reform people living in highly taxed states could deduct State and local taxes (SALT) from their federal return. Blue state spending goes unpunished. Liberal governors have no reason to be frugal as long as their local taxpayers can get their taxable income reduced at the expense of other states.

                          Republican Tax reform capped the SALT deduction at 10,000.00 dollars. And now Democrats are mad because Trump won’t let them live large on your dime.

                          The 10K cap on SALT in the Republican tax reform package places a higher tax burden on the rich. SALT reform removes a significant deduction and raises taxes on people who own more property and earn more money. The more money and property you have the more taxes you’d pay if you couldn’t deduct the local taxes on your federal return, thus satisfying the liberal narrative.

                          Republicans passed a reform that raises taxes on the rich.

                          And the first thing Blue State Democrats do is whine like stuck pigs until their Blue State Democrat governors file a lawsuit that would give those tax breaks back to the rich.

                          https://granitegrok.com/blog/2018/08...pay-more-taxes

                          Heavy blue and purple states already pay more the federal government than red states. Now they'll pay even more. https://www.money-rates.com/research...s-by-state.htm

                          Blue states also tend to be less dependent on Federal money than red. Trump country has lots of "takers". https://wallethub.com/edu/states-mos...vernment/2700/
                          Now they pay even more.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            As typical, Tee Hee tries to bring something up, it gets mercilessly shot down, so he shifts to talk about a Fox News something or other.

                            #hateblinds
                            my first post today was the one about "aggrieved con"

                            i see there was another administrative action based on your posts ....

                            has never happened to me you know.....

                            i don't have time nor interest to read you on "other" threads" now> nor do i have time to review all of your VOMITUS posts on those days you feel emboldened enough to come out rather than hide like yesterday....

                            I WONDER THOUGH....are we observing a process that wills you behave in an increasingly ill mannered way until you are banned ?

                            I hope not. You are my yarn ball to play with in the politics thread when i have 5 min to do so.

                            That is all you are to me and perhaps you should keep a better perspective and not make your last stand tilting at windmills here on TS old man

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                              Hoyer hits back at Tlaib, Omar, Ocasio-Cortez after Pelosi backs away from Trump impeachment push

                              House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland hit back at some of the most visible new Democrats in Congress when asked Monday by Fox News about the push to impeach President Trump: “We’ve got 62 new (Democratic) members. Not three.”

                              https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hoy...peachment-push

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Who cares?
                                1) He's losing cognitive function right before our very eyes
                                2) He refuses to admit to mistakes and goes straight to the lie instead. Not only straight to the lie but he lies about things that can be instantly verified. It's pathological. If he can't stop lying about a simple slip of the tongue, what else is he lying about that goes on behind the scenes? Things that might danger our country?

                                I know all politicians lie to some degree. I prefer a leader that doesn't lie 10+ times a day and will own up to mistakes now and then.

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