Refund thread

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The US has 30M people aged 70+. If 20% of them get it over the next several months that's 6M sick, just for that age group, over 600K hospitalizations (assuming current international rates of 10%) and approximately 350,000 deaths (6% mortality).

I don't know about you all, but my parents are stressed out. They're pretty healthy for their 75 years or so and still very active, but both have common age related medical conditions that put them at higher risk. They normally winter in FL but didn't this year because one needed a minor operation. I'm so glad they're here right now, for many reasons

Mortality rate of Covid-19 as of 3/3 was 3.4%. Death rates for typical flu is around 0.1%. Those numbers are skewed because they don't have enough data points and the numbers would likely increase over time. No idea how many people really have it or how long it's been in the US because no one tested for it before these past few weeks.

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Mortality rate of Covid-19 as of 3/3 was 3.4%. Death rates for typical flu is around 0.1%. Those numbers are skewed because they don't have enough data points and the numbers would likely increase over time. No idea how many people really have it or how long it's been in the US because no one tested for it before these past few weeks.

How do we really know the mortality rate? The rate is based on those who are confirmed to have it, and then died from complications from it.

I'd bet a vast majority have already got it, didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, and moved along from it. Rate is likely much lower than 3/4%, but can never be proven.

And, no, I am not saying we should be doing what are asked of us and should've been doing it earlier. It is to be taken seriously, if for no other reason the ease at which it can spread and with no way to vaccinate against it and no cure. There's way, way too many reports of people saying "just felt like a little cold" to make me think thousands just ignored it.

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The US has 30M people aged 70+. If 20% of them get it over the next several months that's 6M sick, just for that age group, over 600K hospitalizations (assuming current international rates of 10%) and approximately 350,000 deaths (6% mortality).

I don't know about you all, but my parents are stressed out. They're pretty healthy for their 75 years or so and still very active, but both have common age related medical conditions that put them at higher risk. They normally winter in FL but didn't this year because one needed a minor operation. I'm so glad they're here right now, for many reasons

You’re an idiot. We have a population of 350million and have had 40,000 positive tests. China has 1 billion and have had 85,000. In what world does that equate to 20% of an entire population. Based on the numbers 60% of people in the US who have gotten it are 60 and and over. Simple math means that 24,000 people. Again what world is 24,000 people 20% of 30 million. Wake up man. Stop listening to everything the news tells you, look at the numbers and come back to reality. Yes this is dangerous but be realistic.

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How do we really know the mortality rate? The rate is based on those who are confirmed to have it, and then died from complications from it.

I'd bet a vast majority have already got it, didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, and moved along from it. Rate is likely much lower than 3/4%, but can never be proven.

And, no, I am not saying we should be doing what are asked of us and should've been doing it earlier. It is to be taken seriously, if for no other reason the ease at which it can spread and with no way to vaccinate against it and no cure. There's way, way too many reports of people saying "just felt like a little cold" to make me think thousands just ignored it.

85% of the people who have been DIAGNOSED have had no complications to mild complications. The ones who have had and it and didn’t get tested... wait for it... wait for it..... didn’t have any complications which is why they didn’t get tested in the first place.

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85% of the people who have been DIAGNOSED have had no complications to mild complications. The ones who have had and it and didn’t get tested... wait for it... wait for it..... didn’t have any complications which is why they didn’t get tested in the first place.

Right, so the mortality is conceivable much lower than reported.

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How do we really know the mortality rate? The rate is based on those who are confirmed to have it, and then died from complications from it.

I'd bet a vast majority have already got it, didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, and moved along from it. Rate is likely much lower than 3/4%, but can never be proven.

And, no, I am not saying we should be doing what are asked of us and should've been doing it earlier. It is to be taken seriously, if for no other reason the ease at which it can spread and with no way to vaccinate against it and no cure. There's way, way too many reports of people saying "just felt like a little cold" to make me think thousands just ignored it.

South Korea - which not only has tested more than any other country abut also took action very quickly, has seen mortality about .8-1.0%. If accurate that still makes this far deadlier than seasonal flu but not nearly as scary as the data from some other countries. Even China's was about 2.5%, but early front line medical workers really took a hit. The same thing happened with SARS, where something like 70% of China's deaths were medical staff.

With so little testing here we don't have our own data which is badly needed to track the case spread and geography. Without widespread testing we also won't have a good picture of how much cases are really declining when it starts to happen.

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Granted some nations have very few cases (yet) but here is some case data by country
https://www.cebm.net/global-covid-19...atality-rates/

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Mortality rate of Covid-19 as of 3/3 was 3.4%. Death rates for typical flu is around 0.1%. Those numbers are skewed because they don't have enough data points and the numbers would likely increase over time. No idea how many people really have it or how long it's been in the US because no one tested for it before these past few weeks.

People get tested for the flu .... lots of people. Only really sick people with COVID are getting tested (nless you are a politician or pro athlete that is). By not testing very many, the mortality rates are getting seriously skewed in our country (and they are still at only 1.2% here).

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People get tested for the flu .... lots of people. Only really sick people with COVID are getting tested (nless you are a politician or pro athlete that is). By not testing very many, the mortality rates are getting seriously skewed in our country (and they are still at only 1.2% here).

People have some degree of flu immunities and there's a vaccine - that also creates herd immunity. Healthcare workers get vaccinated every years to protect patients. There's also effective anti virals for flu treatment. Flu doesn't hospitalize 10% of confirmed patients.

Stop comparing everything to the flu. Deal with THIS disease.

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People have some degree of flu immunities and there's a vaccine - that also creates herd immunity. Healthcare workers get vaccinated every years to protect patients. There's also effective anti virals for flu treatment. Flu doesn't hospitalize 10% of confirmed patients.

Stop comparing everything to the flu. Deal with THIS disease.

HCW without proper protection will become infected at higher rates. HCW with proper protection could become infected but at a much lower rate. The patients hospitals are admitting today were infected last week. The hospitals are taking in patients requiring medical intervention. Some of those patients will be negative some will be positive. Hospitals do not have the equipment to protect HCW prior to a diagnosis coming back, thus exposing all in the line of care to getting the virus.

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No refunds or credits for any GPS players but they have laid off coaches.

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No refunds or credits for any GPS players but they have laid off coaches.

All clubs should lay off their coaches, so they can collect unemployment, and refunds can be given to their players. No different than any other job. In fact, I’m sure that most coaches are already getting unemployment benefits right now, just like any other job that has lay offs.

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All clubs should lay off their coaches, so they can collect unemployment, and refunds can be given to their players. No different than any other job. In fact, I’m sure that most coaches are already getting unemployment benefits right now, just like any other job that has lay offs.

You are incorrect. The majority of coaches are contract workers, not employees. They have a contract which lays out the terms and are generally paid by stipend. That means self-employed, no collecting UE benefits.

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You are incorrect. The majority of coaches are contract workers, not employees. They have a contract which lays out the terms and are generally paid by stipend. That means self-employed, no collecting UE benefits.

But when the shoe fits, they say they are full time coaches. Like when the club says your fees are high, because you get the benefit of being taught by full time coaches.

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Clubs that don't refund some money will lose in the end.

Yes they definitely will. Better to give back at least some money to keep players. I have three kids playing and all the parents on all the teams are planning to leave if we don’t get at least partial refunds. Especially tournament fees that were paid.