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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Club coaches who also coach at public schools are just asking for it. Qualified to coach or not, claiming bias toward kids who play for their club is an easy claim to make.
    Problem is most better HS programs have club coaches on staff. It's hard to avoid to overlap, especially if a school (or often times parents) want a better coach than the history teacher. I think some schools or AD's don't understand the club soccer scene and don't pay attention to things like this that happen outside their purview. They should.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Given that we're only talking about the JV level here, why did there need to be cuts at all? So you have a few more players on your roster. And no this isn't everyone gets a trophy. It's just JV, keep it in perspective.
      Some schools just can't do it, and do you want your kid on a roster of 35+? That doesn't do anyone any good either. If a kid never has a shot of making varsity is it better to rip the band aid off now?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Some schools just can't do it, and do you want your kid on a roster of 35+? That doesn't do anyone any good either. If a kid never has a shot of making varsity is it better to rip the band aid off now?
        Yes.
        They don’t have 40 on the basketball roster.
        If you can’t shoot or dribble, you’re cut. Period.
        Same for baseball if you can’t hit, pitch or catch.
        But if you can’t trap a ball, run, pass or tackle, you can still play jv ball????
        Soccer becomes the final resting place for non-athletes.
        Never understood it.
        They should have fall travel or town leagues so kids cut from school programs still have a place to play

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It was a comment or quote from a parent in the article. The upset over JV cuts is silly, unless it’s your kid (and your kid doesn’t have much else going on...) but the flak a HS coach with local club ties brings on him or her self is all too predictable.
          Very true. I don't understand why HS coaches and their ADs don't understand the power and perceived conflict of interest that exists when there is an overlap between club and HS team. And the solution is so simple. You can coach club and do clinics, but not with the same gender as your HS team. Any coach who crosses that line is unethical in my book.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistere
            Very true. I don't understand why HS coaches and their ADs don't understand the power and perceived conflict of interest that exists when there is an overlap between club and HS team. And the solution is so simple. You can coach club and do clinics, but not with the same gender as your HS team. Any coach who crosses that line is unethical in my book.
            It’s worse at the college ranks. Can you say Ed Kelly?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              There are coaches in a lot of high schools that have club connections, either in director roles or just as coaches. Rarely do you hear about a firing because of it. Probably something a bit more to it, or some hard evidence other than just a parent complaint. Maybe a parent complaint led to some digging and some other stuff came out.
              Probably? Why, because a school caving into some lunatic parent threatening to sue isn't believable enough for you?

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                #22
                So much stupid on this thread.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  So much stupid on this thread.
                  The stupid is in Andover. Just saying.

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                    #24
                    Fact of the matter is this probably wasn’t what led to the giy’s Actual firing. Maybe led to it, but I’m sure with all he other club conflicts out there, it came down to the guy not being a good coach or he did something else not reported in the article. Doesn’t look like his teams at AV have had much success

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Fact of the matter is this probably wasn’t what led to the giy’s Actual firing. Maybe led to it, but I’m sure with all he other club conflicts out there, it came down to the guy not being a good coach or he did something else not reported in the article. Doesn’t look like his teams at AV have had much success
                      And it gets dumber.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        And it gets dumber.
                        Research the Superintendent's history and you have your answer.

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                          #27
                          Not sure if anyone mentioned this but why would the JV coach have the power to cut players? I would assume the head coach would make the call on who gets cut and who doesn't. Seems like the parents are blaming just the JV coach where the head coach should be the one to be blamed.
                          Most JV coaches have no power they are told by the head coach on how to develop the players to play in the varsity teams system.
                          I think the head coach must have thrown the JV coach under the bus. If the head coach thought the girls that were getting cut were good the coach wouldn't have allowed the JV coach to cut them.

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                            #28
                            Let's be honest, ADs around MA probably receive numerous emails a week from parents complaining about coaches and their coach being affiliated with club X. If the coach is good, the AD will push back and the coach will be kept on. It seems like in this case, the coach probably is not very good, so if his association with a club (in what seems like every role possible), causes just the slightest headache, the AD probably thought there was no reason to keep him. If he were a good coach, an anonymous email to anyone wouldn't have led to a firing.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Research the Superintendent's history and you have your answer.
                              It literally says in the article that the superintendent wasn't involved in the firing, it was the athletic director. The coach himself acknowledges this.

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                                #30
                                Looks like the AD cleared him and the other coaches multiple times and then suddenly changed his mind? Unlikely. Sounds like the AD was pressured from the Super. Looking at the Super.'s history he wrote a 6 page letter complaining about his sons lack of ice time and wanting the coach fired. Super. has a soft spot for crazy?

                                If he was a bad coach how why would so many kids and parents be backing him?

                                Sounds like crazy parent pulling the strings.

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