The Girls 2007 Thread

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No. The concern is that some incredibly talented kids get thrown into situations that would be difficult for adults to deal with and the only motivating factor is the club's business of making money. Tryouts before the spring has even started, a rotating carousel of "practice players" and continual announcements of ID clinics does not do much to build confidence in players who plan on staying at their current club. I have seen top, top kids on my child's team work themselves into paranoia because they get very little feedback and suddenly see every sign pointing to the club wanting new blood. These kids are very competitive and that is part of the problem. You can't live in a near constant state of anxiety and have it be healthy. It especially does not help the kids to develop their game, which is the whole reason you're paying to be in the club.

There is no way that holding tryouts for next fall's team for 4 months starting in February with "Winter ID clinics" is a healthy thing for current members. The whole goal is getting rosters filled for cash.

STOP worrying about it. These clubs are a dime a dozen. Worse case scenario? You lose your spot? Well, it wasn't meant to be. Move on. If you are coachable and eager to play, there will be a spot for you on another team, I guarantee. I’ll bet its a better club too.

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"Making Money" and "roster filled for cash" - you are so bitter, and poor I guess.

If kids are nervous about losing their spot, then it's a fixed number of spots. No new money. If clubs are filling rosters for cash, then they are adding spots, so there is nothing to worry about.

You really need to stop sucking your binky, take a logic course, and accept that your "incredibly talented" kid is emotionally fragile.

I'm just going to point out how much of a donkey you are. Calling an 11/12 yr old emotionally fragile is just ridiculous. There not soccer machines they have emotions and feelings like every 11/12 yr old does. If the kid is worried about losing her spot it's not 100% because her soccer career has hit a roadblock it's that she's potentially losing her friends on the team that she's developed bonds with. Not understanding that and calling her fragile is the mark of complete and utter trash human being. You'll probably have some stupid aggressive thing to say to make sure everyone knows just how much of a badass you and your family are, but I for one won't believe it. I think your just a D-Bag who thinks too highly of himself. You should spend time examining why you needed to classify 11/12 year old girls as emotionally fragile. It's apparent to me you have a lot of emotional development still to work on yourself. And before you go off on a stupid rant about my kid sucking, you should know that she's on the top team in her club who was one of the top teams in the top division and does not come out of the game at all (and is not a goalie). So when I call you a donkey, a D-Bag or a trashy mess of individual, it's not coming from a place where I'm envious of your perceived status or am jealous of anything, It's coming from a place inside of me that gets angry that a D-Bag like you is allowed to walk and type such vile BS behind a keyboard and doesn't have any consequences. I hope you get some help until then... You are a piece of trash.

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I'm just going to point out how much of a donkey you are. Calling an 11/12 yr old emotionally fragile is just ridiculous. There not soccer machines they have emotions and feelings like every 11/12 yr old does. If the kid is worried about losing her spot it's not 100% because her soccer career has hit a roadblock it's that she's potentially losing her friends on the team that she's developed bonds with. Not understanding that and calling her fragile is the mark of complete and utter trash human being. You'll probably have some stupid aggressive thing to say to make sure everyone knows just how much of a badass you and your family are, but I for one won't believe it. I think your just a D-Bag who thinks too highly of himself. You should spend time examining why you needed to classify 11/12 year old girls as emotionally fragile. It's apparent to me you have a lot of emotional development still to work on yourself. And before you go off on a stupid rant about my kid sucking, you should know that she's on the top team in her club who was one of the top teams in the top division and does not come out of the game at all (and is not a goalie). So when I call you a donkey, a D-Bag or a trashy mess of individual, it's not coming from a place where I'm envious of your perceived status or am jealous of anything, It's coming from a place inside of me that gets angry that a D-Bag like you is allowed to walk and type such vile BS behind a keyboard and doesn't have any consequences. I hope you get some help until then... You are a piece of trash.

She plays the highest position on the highest team in the highest land...
I hope the big bad wolf doesn't take Rapunzel's spot. #Triggered

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I'm just going to point out how much of a donkey you are. Calling an 11/12 yr old emotionally fragile is just ridiculous. There not soccer machines they have emotions and feelings like every 11/12 yr old does. If the kid is worried about losing her spot it's not 100% because her soccer career has hit a roadblock it's that she's potentially losing her friends on the team that she's developed bonds with. Not understanding that and calling her fragile is the mark of complete and utter trash human being. You'll probably have some stupid aggressive thing to say to make sure everyone knows just how much of a badass you and your family are, but I for one won't believe it. I think your just a D-Bag who thinks too highly of himself. You should spend time examining why you needed to classify 11/12 year old girls as emotionally fragile. It's apparent to me you have a lot of emotional development still to work on yourself. And before you go off on a stupid rant about my kid sucking, you should know that she's on the top team in her club who was one of the top teams in the top division and does not come out of the game at all (and is not a goalie). So when I call you a donkey, a D-Bag or a trashy mess of individual, it's not coming from a place where I'm envious of your perceived status or am jealous of anything, It's coming from a place inside of me that gets angry that a D-Bag like you is allowed to walk and type such vile BS behind a keyboard and doesn't have any consequences. I hope you get some help until then... You are a piece of trash.

Preach on, can't wait to see these parents when their daughter quits and they have no other way to get their jollies. What will they brag about to all their friends.

It's great to have good competition and play at a high level but you don't need to invent ways to add more pressure. Here is a novel idea wait until the season is over not make decisions when it is starting.

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Again, this is a competitive environment and if this thread is about the truly best teams in the area, as is often touted, they should welcome the competition.

There's a few leagues where you can show up and not have to worry about anyone taking your place and everyone gets orange slices after the game. I suggest this may be the correct place for you.

A player who sees others coming in have a few mindsets:

1) Someone is here to take my spot. I have to work harder to make sure that doesn't take place.

2) Someone is here to take my spot. My dad won't stand for that because he thinks I'm really, really special and he'll talk to the coach.

3) Someone is here to take the place of someone's else spot who shouldn't be on the team.

4) As long as the ice cream is cold, I don't care.




Why are we so afraid of competition?

Your confusing the issue, it's not the competition it's the timing. If these same clinics were held after Memorial Day when they had a chance to play and show themselves that is natural. To do it before you have really started to play makes no sense. On top of that what if the ID clinic went well and the club attracted new players and 3-4 players on the current team did not make it. Do you think they will produce or feel part of the team for the next 4 games?

They can get competition in the league and tournaments they don't need more. When your kid comes home from school do you give her extra homework on top of what the teacher gave, have her take SAT pretests to really get her ready I mean why not over stress them in every aspect of their life so they can be truly miserable.

Parents how complete forgot what is like to be a kid.

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Agree with lot of what was said about player stress. However, harsh reality is that playing for a top club on the top team is stressful as it’s perform highly or your out the next year. The concept of team doesn’t exist as well on these teams because the kids know they are also competing against one another. If your kid can’t handle stress well it’s just simply not a good fit or wait until they are older.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;2475742]Agree with lot of what was said about player stress. However, harsh reality is that playing for a top club on the top team is stressful as it’s perform highly or your out the next year. The concept of team doesn’t exist as well on these teams because the kids know they are also competing against one another. If your kid can’t handle stress well it’s just simply not a good fit or wait until they are older.[/QUOT

Unless you think that there is only one team of 11/12 year olds worth playing for, you shouldn’t be losing any sleep over this. If you think that only certain players and clubs are worthy of playing with, then it sounds like you deserve what you get and all the stress that you think goes with it. There are so many clubs , teams snd opportunities out there to play soccer. You have choices, if you are willing to step out of the comfort of your small world.

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She plays the highest position on the highest team in the highest land...
I hope the big bad wolf doesn't take Rapunzel's spot. #Triggered

Ha... Not a bad comeback. But If I didn't say something like that, the response would've been my daughter sucks and I'm just jealous... point taken though

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Stress, or even just a healthy sense of competition definitely comes with the territory but I agree that we should not let the clubs business goals result in turning the pressure up to the detriment of the players. Yes, in some clubs it is perform or you're out but I just think that if the clubs are going to charge so much money for "development" they should show some more faith in their own ability to teach the kids across the full season. Holding ID camps in Feb/March and official tryouts in April, before you even play a spring game shows how little confidence they really have in their own ability. The kids shouldn't feel so comfortable that they get complacent, nor should they be judged on a half season of play. Do it all after memorial day.

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Stress, or even just a healthy sense of competition definitely comes with the territory but I agree that we should not let the clubs business goals result in turning the pressure up to the detriment of the players. Yes, in some clubs it is perform or you're out but I just think that if the clubs are going to charge so much money for "development" they should show some more faith in their own ability to teach the kids across the full season. Holding ID camps in Feb/March and official tryouts in April, before you even play a spring game shows how little confidence they really have in their own ability. The kids shouldn't feel so comfortable that they get complacent, nor should they be judged on a half season of play. Do it all after memorial day.

Maybe thats a club to avoid, no ?

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Agree with the previous poster the big clubs top teams are a stressful environment it’s all about what your kid can handle

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Agree with the previous poster the big clubs top teams are a stressful environment it’s all about what your kid can handle

College soccer is very high stress. Tou have to be able to hack it. But that doesn't mean 11 and 12 year olds need pressure that young. High school age is more than sufficient

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It's a tough balance, to much stress and they might quit, but not enough they don't develop. You have to know your daughter and push when you can and hold back when you need to.

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Your confusing the issue, it's not the competition it's the timing. If these same clinics were held after Memorial Day when they had a chance to play and show themselves that is natural. To do it before you have really started to play makes no sense. On top of that what if the ID clinic went well and the club attracted new players and 3-4 players on the current team did not make it. Do you think they will produce or feel part of the team for the next 4 games?

They can get competition in the league and tournaments they don't need more. When your kid comes home from school do you give her extra homework on top of what the teacher gave, have her take SAT pretests to really get her ready I mean why not over stress them in every aspect of their life so they can be truly miserable.

Parents how complete forgot what is like to be a kid.

Show themselves after Memorial Day? Wot tha’???

They’ve had all season to show themselves. Every player on a supposedly high-level team as is represented here should be under the assumption there is another, better player out there and their coach is trying to find them.

I think many of you want your kid to be the best on their team; not necessarily a great player

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Maybe it's just our club, but the main issue we are seeing with the trial players joining practices the past couple of months is that they are usually there to replace the very bottom spots on the roster (those kids who, as someone mentioned, maybe shouldn't have been on the team in the first place). So the trial players are usually much weaker than the average players on the team, with some coming from the team below in our club. When you have 5-8 of these players at a practice, it really kills the quality and hampers the development of the kids who earned their spots by putting in good performances the previous year. I'm all for bringing trial kids in over the winter, when the training is a little less intense anyway, and then perhaps again two weeks before tryouts to get an extra look, but having them there throughout the entire winter and spring season is overkill and not good for team dynamics or player development.