The Revolution Academy needs to make some changes.

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Remember when the Revs cared about soccer more than branding and college commitments on social media?

😂yes! It's surprising they held out as long as they did.

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There was hope that the new MLS version of DA would do away with waivers. The supposed top tier of American youth soccer is now fully admitting that it is an exclusionary system built to cater to the 1%.

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If they were in DA or they will be in the new MLS league they will be found.

College coaches only scout games at high schools that cost as much as college.

Public high schools are for D2 players because they don’t have the academic chops to get into the NESCAC schools.

😳 you keep believing that if it makes you feel better about paying

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There was hope that the new MLS version of DA would do away with waivers. The supposed top tier of American youth soccer is now fully admitting that it is an exclusionary system built to cater to the 1%.

"hope" by whom? the lesser players who don't have the leverage to demand waivers? Look, lets not pretend that there is any "development" going on at these cubs--its all about talent. If you are talented enough, they will want you enough to work with you and you can get a waiver. if not, then you have no leverage to obtain one.

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😳 you keep believing that if it makes you feel better about paying

I'll be glad to take a look at your list of all the high school kids recruited from high school games.

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"hope" by whom? the lesser players who don't have the leverage to demand waivers? Look, lets not pretend that there is any "development" going on at these cubs--its all about talent. If you are talented enough, they will want you enough to work with you and you can get a waiver. if not, then you have no leverage to obtain one.

If you want a waiver you need to attend an private high school that charges $40,000+ per year. It's not about talent, it's about money.

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If you want a waiver you need to attend an private high school that charges $40,000+ per year. It's not about talent, it's about money.

Again, those with the talent aren't paying $40K per year.

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I'll be glad to take a look at your list of all the high school kids recruited from high school games.

Enough already. No one has said that but you. Everyone else has said nearly all HS players get recruited through their CLUBS, not HS soccer.

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Enough already. No one has said that but you. Everyone else has said nearly all HS players get recruited through their CLUBS, not HS soccer.

This whole discussion was all started by the idiotic statement that the top boys players don't want to play high school soccer. Nobody said they are recruited only primarily out of high school (other than the fact that college coaches sometimes show up at some high end private school matches). In the end, the thread shows that, in fact, about 70% or more of the top boys players (defined, rightly or wrongly, by D1 commits) actually do play high school soccer. I am sure even more would do so, if they were allowed to by DA or had the leverage to demand a waiver.

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This whole discussion was all started by the idiotic statement that the top boys players don't want to play high school soccer. Nobody said they are recruited only primarily out of high school (other than the fact that college coaches sometimes show up at some high end private school matches). In the end, the thread shows that, in fact, about 70% or more of the top boys players (defined, rightly or wrongly, by D1 commits) actually do play high school soccer. I am sure even more would do so, if they were allowed to by DA or had the leverage to demand a waiver.

Exactly. DA loyalists can't admit that you can do both and that many want to do both. A big reason GDA fell apart was ECNL continued to offer girls the ability to play HS. Ok maybe you won't play at Stanford without DA but there's hundreds of other college coaches out there that don't care.

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In the end, the thread shows that, in fact, about 70% or more of the top boys players (defined, rightly or wrongly, by D1 commits) actually do play high school soccer.

It also demonstrates that, for the Class of 2020, 9 public high school players out of roughly 3,000 graduating players from all public high schools are headed to D1 soccer teams.

Additionally, 3 of those public school players were on the MIAA D1 State Championship squad.

You're selling a dream that actually only comes to fruition for .3% of the public high school players.

Lumping full pay, high SES families with students that attend NEPSAC/ISL schools into a general discussion of "high school" players that move on to play D1 soccer skews the numbers somewhat. Teams at their schools recruit from other states and other countries all together. These teams are not what traditionally comes to mind when people wax poetic about "high school soccer."

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Exactly. DA loyalists can't admit that you can do both and that many want to do both. A big reason GDA fell apart was ECNL continued to offer girls the ability to play HS. Ok maybe you won't play at Stanford without DA but there's hundreds of other college coaches out there that don't care.

Girls have consistently demonstrated that they require the social aspect of high school soccer much more than boys do.

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More than half of the graduating players on DA teams are headed to D1 schools next year.

More than 40% of all the MA players headed to play D1 soccer next year come from a pool of 24 DA players.

This basically speaks for itself.

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It also demonstrates that, for the Class of 2020, 9 public high school players out of roughly 3,000 graduating players from all public high schools are headed to D1 soccer teams.

Additionally, 3 of those public school players were on the MIAA D1 State Championship squad.

You're selling a dream that actually only comes to fruition for .3% of the public high school players.

Lumping full pay, high SES families with students that attend NEPSAC/ISL schools into a general discussion of "high school" players that move on to play D1 soccer skews the numbers somewhat. Teams at their schools recruit from other states and other countries all together. These teams are not what traditionally comes to mind when people wax poetic about "high school soccer."

This is idiotic. The relevant comparison with the DA kids who abandon high school is with the top 2-3 other non-DA clubs. So you are really talking about comparing 20 or so graduating DA kids with the 30 or so kids graduating from NEFC, GPS, etc. That is the pool that is making the choice about high school soccer or not. And if you look at that pool, the better college outcomes seem to involve those who play for their high schools.

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as a reminder 2019 commits. DA may help get you to top D1 but you don't have to have it to play in college.


D1

Walker Davey, NEFC, Groton School, BC
Wil Jacques, transfer, Duke, BC
Amos Shapiro Thompson, Legia Warsaw II, Worthington, BC
Griffin Roach, GPS, Canton, BU
Owen Schwartz, Marin FC, Worcester Academy, Brown
Nick Awada, Bolts, Westford, Bryant
Jake Spaulding, NEFC, Pingree HS, Bryant
John Muckstadt, GPS, Dover Sherborn, Colgate
Eli Gould, Black Rock, NMH, Colgate
Nick Steed, Black Rock, Berkshire, Colgate
Galen Lewis, Seacoast, Milton, Harvard
Duncan Sutherland, NEFC/Seacoast, Brooks, Harvard
Jack Ostrosky, Bolts, Rutland, Holy Cross
Prince Loney-Bailey, Revs, Cambridge, James Madison
Andrew White, Revs, Boxborough, Lehigh
Camden Blackburn, FC Mass, Ludlow, UMass
Shamar Rainford, FC Stars, BC High, UMass
Quinn Serafino, Western United, West Springfield, UMass
Evan Fournier, GPS, Belchertown, UMass
Sancho Maroto, Bolts, Lexington, UML
Josh Machado, Revs, Somerville, UML
Curtis Moore, Liverpool, Nauset, Merrimack
Shaine Mullaney, FC Stars, Wachusett, Merrimack
Christian Pulselli, Bolts, Pembroke, Michigan
Jon Sinclair, FA Euro, Berkshire, UNC
Marco Saborio Perez, Revs, Berkshire, UNC
Jacques Baldwin, GPS, Brookline, Northeastern
Colby Hegarty, Bolts, Nipmuc, Northeastern
Deng Deng Kur, ?, Berkshire, Northwestern
Ugochukwu Achara, Black Rock, Berkshire, Northwestern
Jaren Suttles, Bolts, Springfield, PC
Andrew Kempe, GPS, Brooks, URI
Louis Gazo, Black Rock, NMH, UVM
Jeremy Verley, Bolts, Milton, UVA
Nicholas Berghold, Black Rock, Berkshire, UVA
Ryan Bellavance, transfer, Colgate, Xavier

D2

Andrew Jayyosi, Bolts, Upton, Assumption
Brian Underhill, FC Stars, Lawrence Academy, St Anselm's
Jackson Bukunt FC Stars, Nipmuc, St. Anselm's
Sergio Zacarias, Bolts, Billerica, Assumption
Kevin Sullivan, ?, Worcester Academy, St Michaels
Jan Sokolowski, GPS, Shrewsbury, SNHU
Brandon Carroll, Liverpool, Halifax, Stonehill

D3

Declan Sung, Bolts, Newton, Amherst
Zach Herman, GPS, Wellesley, Babson
Mateos Norman, GPS, Wayland, Babson
Alex Kovacs, Bolts, St Johns, Bates
Jacob Iwowo, ?, Berkshire, Bates
Myles Guerrier, ?, Worcester Academy, Bates
Bobby Dall, Bolts, Philips Andover, Bates
Max McKersie, Aztecs, Berkshire, Bates
Adrian Hadley, GPS, Weston, Bates
Will Anastos, GPS, Norwell, Bates
Ryan Manning, ?, Milton, Bates
Michael Webber, NEFC, Rivers, Bowdoin
Forrest Shimazu, Bolts, Needham, Brandeis
Aiden Guthro, Seacoast, Newburyport, Brandeis
Josh Gans, Bolts, Gann Academy, Brandeis*
Matthew Johnson, Liverpool, East Bridgewater, Bridgewater St
Josh Quirk, GPS, Middlesex, Chicago
Connor Fitzgerald, NEFC, Masconomet, Clark
Josh Dunbar, NEFC, Cambridge, Clark
Cameron Emde-Gerdine, ?, Concord Carlisle, Clarkson
Jack Marvel, Liverpool FC, Tabor, Conn College
Joseph Hilf, GPS, North Attleboro, Curry
Luca Vicinelli, GPS, St Marks, Denison
Will Poreda, Liverpool, Duxbury, Endicott
Alex Loyd, Liverpool, Kingston, Fitchburg St
Gustavo Cassemiro, Revs, Framingham, Framingham St. *
Justin D’Alessandro, FC Stars, Middlesex, Hamilton
Robbie Caron, ?, Framingham, Hobart
Amad Miller, FC Stars, Lawrence Academy, Hobart
Ben Shumway, GPS, Dedham, Husson
Minka Soumah, South Bronx, NMH, Kenyon
David McCrory, Black Rock, Berkshire, Kenyon
Kevin Kelly, Black Rock, Berkshire, Lycoming
Tanner Gigliottti, FC Stars, Wachusett, MCLA
Gavin O’Malley, GPS, Foxboro, Mitchell College
Brandin Osborne, ?, Worcester Academy, Muhlenburg
Eric Dacosta, Pingree, Topsfield, Occidental
Graeme Logan, Worcester Academy, Pitzer
Michael McDougald, GPS, Cohassett, St Lawrence
Niklas Francke, ?, NMH, St Lawrence
Nathan Costantino, ?, North Andover, Salve Regina
Jonah Johnson, Exeter, Milton, Swarthmore
James Michielli, GPS, Worcester Academy, Trinity
Bryce Visnick, NEFC, Beverley, Tufts
Rolando Rabines, NEFC, Phillips, Tufts
Christian Rufo, GPS, Needham, Union
Witt Cadwalader, FC Stars, Rivers, Wash U
Avery Santoro, Liverpool, Nauset, Wheaton
Colin Canniff, Liverpool, Silver Lake, WPI