The Revolution Academy needs to make some changes.

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Don't know what that means. The kid (not an impact player it seems), left the Revs for the Bolts, which is the Revs reject player pile.

I think you have that backwards. Bolts beat Revs in their most recent meeting, 4-3. Quite telling given everything one would think the Revs have going for them relatively speaking. The Revs are clearly the reject pile of the Bolts (and while we are at it, the MLS Revs are the reject pile of US soccer). MLS is considering relegating Heaps and co. down to the 18's and moving all teams down a notch. The benchmark is going to be if the MLS team can get a shot on net this week. Don't bet the ranch on it.

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I think you have that backwards. Bolts beat Revs in their most recent meeting, 4-3. Quite telling given everything one would think the Revs have going for them relatively speaking. The Revs are clearly the reject pile of the Bolts (and while we are at it, the MLS Revs are the reject pile of US soccer). MLS is considering relegating Heaps and co. down to the 18's and moving all teams down a notch. The benchmark is going to be if the MLS team can get a shot on net this week. Don't bet the ranch on it.

The C team level soccer at the NTC was pathetic. Rev coaches should be hiding their heads in the sand if this is the best they have to offer.

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Don't know what that means. The kid (not an impact player it seems), left the Revs for the Bolts, which is the Revs reject player pile.

I think you missed my point. The U16 team that the Bolts is putting out on the field is stronger than the U16 team the Revs are putting out on the field (because the Revs best are playing up at U18). Bolts U16s are currently ranked 6th in the division, Revs are 9th. With the Revs JR apparently gone for the spring from the U18s, they are going to probably pull another U16 player up to fill in, and with the U16 player JF also gone, the Revs U16 team is going to be even weaker than in the fall. For any player, it's always better for development to be training and playing with a stronger group of players, and right now, that is the U16 Bolts team.

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My Messi doesn't have to read anything. He's going pro. Backup plan is Phoenix U Online.

All set to be the Prez then

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The C team level soccer at the NTC was pathetic. Rev coaches should be hiding their heads in the sand if this is the best they have to offer.

Why wasn't my kid invited to the NTC? When was it?

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I think you missed my point. The U16 team that the Bolts is putting out on the field is stronger than the U16 team the Revs are putting out on the field (because the Revs best are playing up at U18). Bolts U16s are currently ranked 6th in the division, Revs are 9th. With the Revs JR apparently gone for the spring from the U18s, they are going to probably pull another U16 player up to fill in, and with the U16 player JF also gone, the Revs U16 team is going to be even weaker than in the fall. For any player, it's always better for development to be training and playing with a stronger group of players, and right now, that is the U16 Bolts team.

Mr Sung, your son is in for a rude awakening at the Bolts. Marco Koolman is pathetic as a coach ant the bolts as a club is one of the most disfunctional and corrupt you will find. You will see... Your son would have better development at GPS NPL or NEFC NPL.

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I think you have that backwards. Bolts beat Revs in their most recent meeting, 4-3. Quite telling given everything one would think the Revs have going for them relatively speaking. The Revs are clearly the reject pile of the Bolts (and while we are at it, the MLS Revs are the reject pile of US soccer). MLS is considering relegating Heaps and co. down to the 18's and moving all teams down a notch. The benchmark is going to be if the MLS team can get a shot on net this week. Don't bet the ranch on it.

Sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at stupid posts from people who think they know what is going on. Sure this poster has no kid in either club.

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Mr Sung, your son is in for a rude awakening at the Bolts. Marco Koolman is pathetic as a coach ant the bolts as a club is one of the most disfunctional and corrupt you will find. You will see... Your son would have better development at GPS NPL or NEFC NPL.

Keep telling yourself NPL is better and eventually you'll believe it.

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Keep telling yourself NPL is better and eventually you'll believe it.

No just realistic.

Any of the top teams in the Disney showcase elite groups could give the top dap teams a good game .
In terms of college recruitments it's a wash if he plays for a top NPL team like the ones mentioned and plays for a good HS (preferably ISL )school.

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Long time reader, first time poster. This site is awesome b/c of the absurdity and passion masking some of the bits of insight. The craziness of this particular discussion is that the Revs don't NEED to do anything. They do the bare minimum and if only proscribed by USSF or mandated by MLS. You don't need to be a capologist that trading away TAM is brilliant b/c GM Burns was never going to have the actual dollars to spend anyways.

The Revs are LAST in ambition (SI link) and spending on the DA level (Top Drawer link). There can't be a way to spend less than $1m on an MLS academy team but the Revs probably try. I think the other 13 teams were too embarrassed to reveal how much they spend but the Revs are shameless (or just oblivious).

So folks can rail against the coaches, the lack of a stadium, proper turf, any sort of developmental path from DA to senior team yada yada but the bottom line is that the Krafts don't care and don't have to care about making any changes. If the Krafts wanted to know what to do, all they'd have to do is look around the MLS. Even the new clubs have got their ****e together tighter.

From an academy perspective the Revs will always get first pick of youth players from NE. Free is a great price, and sometimes you get what you pay for. Plus M - L - S!

If your son really has pro aspirations, why would you trust the Revs to get him through the critical developmental years if you had any other comparable alternative? Even if (big assumption) the coaching and training were differentiated and productive, you'd be stuck with a boobie prize of a homegrown contract at a discount to market. Maybe there'd be a Gen Adidas contract thrown in if you're lucky. But none of the Revs coaches at any level stack up against other MLS clubs' coaches. Atlanta brought in the former Argentina coach who from day one has focused on the Academy (and they're spending $60m on the facilities alone - not including the stadium).

Said differently, maybe the Revs do a fine job of identifying the strongest youth players in the area because as the only local MLS franchise everyone will gravitate towards them like moths to a flame. But can we measure or tell if the coaching does anything critical to develop the boys? ZH and JR etc who spent some years with the Revs arguably would be where they are now if they had been with another club - maybe talent just wins out regardless. Even La Masia can't keep churning out Messis (and Piquets, Iniestas, Xavis) unless the raw material is there to begin.

No changes are coming down the line with the Revs until some soccer-mad lunatic comes in and offers the Krafts a giant windfall. MLS franchises are going for over $100 million just for the license. We need some NYC hedge fund billionaire bored enough to set fire to millions of dollars to make Kraft an offer. Only when someone with ambition (even if it's absurd or just lofty) takes over the Revs will any real changes happen.

22 NEW ENGLAND REVOLUTION/ LAST SEASON: 20
Here we go again. How is it that the Krafts, one of the most beloved ownership groups in the NFL, might be the most disliked owners by their own fans in MLS? As James Carville might say, it’s the stadium, stupid. Here we are in 2017, the team’s 22nd season, and it still doesn’t have an urban soccer stadium or any set plan to build one. “A project is currently in process” in Boston’s “urban core,” the team says, and if it gets done the Revs will rise in the Ambition Rankings. Until then, they’ll remain at the bottom.
http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2017...ition-rankings
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Clubs with the resources of those in MLS absolutely have to have robust, well-funded academies to build depth, even in the starting XI. And there is no way to do that other than to pour resources into the academy like dumping buckets of water on a never-ending grease fire. And now that many of these academies are five, six, seven, eight years old, it’s time we had some measurable data to claim they’re doing so.

Pulled from each individual questionnaire, here’s the ranked list of the nine who submitted figures on how much they spent in 2016 on their respective academy setups.
9. New England Revolution: $1 million
t8. D.C. United: $1.5 million
t8. Montreal Impact: $1.5 million
6. Chicago Fire: $1.75 million
5. Columbus Crew: $2.5 million
t4. FC Dallas: $3 million
t4. Portland Timbers: $3 million
t1. LA Galaxy: $4 million
t1. Philadelphia Union: $4 million

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91...eir-academies/

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No just realistic.

Any of the top teams in the Disney showcase elite groups could give the top dap teams a good game .
In terms of college recruitments it's a wash if he plays for a top NPL team like the ones mentioned and plays for a good HS (preferably ISL )school.

You may want to educate yourself. Take a look at rosters from D1 schools - you'll find it heavily skewed to DA, ISL and internationals. Some Kids will make it in from other leagues but it's not common and almost unheard of at top programs. Those will also be the kids most likely getting the least playing time. Now low level D1, D2 or D3 the odds are better, but even then there's plenty of DA, ISL and internationals as well. So yes you can be non DA and still play in college. But the odds of it being at a high level is low. If that fits a player's goals then that's totally fine.

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You may want to educate yourself. Take a look at rosters from D1 schools - you'll find it heavily skewed to DA, ISL and internationals. Some Kids will make it in from other leagues but it's not common and almost unheard of at top programs. Those will also be the kids most likely getting the least playing time. Now low level D1, D2 or D3 the odds are better, but even then there's plenty of DA, ISL and internationals as well. So yes you can be non DA and still play in college. But the odds of it being at a high level is low. If that fits a player's goals then that's totally fine.

If a player is good they will find him. Many DAP and NPL teams have "wannabe" players - players on the fringes who would be lucky to get significant playing time at a mid tier D3 school.

I don't know about nationally but in this area, players from top NPL teams with ISL/Prep school credentials have been getting good D1 and top D3 offers consistently

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If a player is good they will find him. Many DAP and NPL teams have "wannabe" players - players on the fringes who would be lucky to get significant playing time at a mid tier D3 school.

I don't know about nationally but in this area, players from top NPL teams with ISL/Prep school credentials have been getting good D1 and top D3 offers consistently

The younger Revs players are competing with the $$$M being pumped into other academies. Not a good place to be even fir college. 4 years from now? Revs players will waaaay behind.

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The younger Revs players are competing with the $$$M being pumped into other academies. Not a good place to be even fir college. 4 years from now? Revs players will waaaay behind.

Top D3 that is an oxymoron. It's still D3

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Top D3 that is an oxymoron. It's still D3

There are 400+ D3 programs. They vary widely in quality.