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    I have heard/ seen that D1 soccer scholarships for boys are often not full scholarships. is this accurate? if someone makes a UML or a Bryant or even a BC or BU, what is their 'scholarship" likely to cover?

    I ask this as a parent of a boy on a small U15 club team where the kids are already talking about where they want to play and how their skills will help pay for college. I don't want to be a dream killer, but maybe giving them some education on what scholarships really cover may be way to then say that academics is most important and that a D3 team and some merit money might be a more practical goal. Also, I do not think this team of solid and motivated players has any clear top shelf prospects.

    I saw that this thread is really about lisiting where boys are going but I thought I might be able to get some quick answers here about what a D1 scholarship really means. Thanks!

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I have heard/ seen that D1 soccer scholarships for boys are often not full scholarships. is this accurate? if someone makes a UML or a Bryant or even a BC or BU, what is their 'scholarship" likely to cover?

      I ask this as a parent of a boy on a small U15 club team where the kids are already talking about where they want to play and how their skills will help pay for college. I don't want to be a dream killer, but maybe giving them some education on what scholarships really cover may be way to then say that academics is most important and that a D3 team and some merit money might be a more practical goal. Also, I do not think this team of solid and motivated players has any clear top shelf prospects.

      I saw that this thread is really about lisiting where boys are going but I thought I might be able to get some quick answers here about what a D1 scholarship really means. Thanks!
      D1 teams have a maximum of 9.9 scholarships to allocate across the full roster, which means that very few players get a "full ride," a good bunch of players get partial athletic aid, and some players get no athletic aid. Some programs (such as UMass, which as recently as a couple of years ago had only 2.5 scholarships to spread among the 20+ players on their roster) do not have the full allocation of scholarships. Coaches will usually try to cobble together packages for athletes that include need-based aid, merit money, and as little athletic aid as necessary to get the players to attend. Just making a team as a recruited athlete does not guarantee that any athletic aid will be coming his way.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I have heard/ seen that D1 soccer scholarships for boys are often not full scholarships. is this accurate? if someone makes a UML or a Bryant or even a BC or BU, what is their 'scholarship" likely to cover?

        I ask this as a parent of a boy on a small U15 club team where the kids are already talking about where they want to play and how their skills will help pay for college. I don't want to be a dream killer, but maybe giving them some education on what scholarships really cover may be way to then say that academics is most important and that a D3 team and some merit money might be a more practical goal. Also, I do not think this team of solid and motivated players has any clear top shelf prospects.

        I saw that this thread is really about lisiting where boys are going but I thought I might be able to get some quick answers here about what a D1 scholarship really means. Thanks!
        So sad, and so desperate, BTNT. You truly just can't help yourself. Please seek help.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          So sad, and so desperate, BTNT. You truly just can't help yourself. Please seek help.
          There is not much money in soccer (girls or boys). For the boys hopefully they have been on the Revs for the last 4 years and the parents have saved the $10-15k they would have spent on a club team, travel costs.... The girls don't have that so they are already $40-60k behind.

          The best plan is to get good grades and use soccer to get to a top D3 or Ivy. You could also use soccer to get to top D1 and play for a year or two and then stop and focus on a career.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I have heard/ seen that D1 soccer scholarships for boys are often not full scholarships. is this accurate? if someone makes a UML or a Bryant or even a BC or BU, what is their 'scholarship" likely to cover?

            I ask this as a parent of a boy on a small U15 club team where the kids are already talking about where they want to play and how their skills will help pay for college. I don't want to be a dream killer, but maybe giving them some education on what scholarships really cover may be way to then say that academics is most important and that a D3 team and some merit money might be a more practical goal. Also, I do not think this team of solid and motivated players has any clear top shelf prospects.

            I saw that this thread is really about lisiting where boys are going but I thought I might be able to get some quick answers here about what a D1 scholarship really means. Thanks!
            Their dreams will get crushed soon enough. First, making a top college program outside of BDA or having a foreign passport is slim to none. Take a look at the resumes of rostered players at many of those schools. Few if any will be from "small" clubs. Second, what someone posted above about scholarship money is very true. Full rides are almost non existent in men's soccer and would primarily go to say an NT player or a top keeper. Even if a coach has 9.9 fully funded scholarship dollars to play around with, he's dealing with rosters of at least 25 players. Schools can come up with other monies - financial aid if you qualify and merit money if you have great grades/scores - but athletic dollars are scarce.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              D1 teams have a maximum of 9.9 scholarships to allocate across the full roster, which means that very few players get a "full ride," a good bunch of players get partial athletic aid, and some players get no athletic aid. Some programs (such as UMass, which as recently as a couple of years ago had only 2.5 scholarships to spread among the 20+ players on their roster) do not have the full allocation of scholarships. Coaches will usually try to cobble together packages for athletes that include need-based aid, merit money, and as little athletic aid as necessary to get the players to attend. Just making a team as a recruited athlete does not guarantee that any athletic aid will be coming his way.
              OP here. Thanks and no, I am not BTN. I was a town coach for some of these kids and feel a little extra invested in the soccer stuff. Parents and kids alike of these mostly freshmen in high school are already talking about how soccer can help for college. Some of the kids, like young basketball or baseball players, still even entertain ideas of being a pro. It is very helpful to be able to say that not only does a D1 squad of 25 players at best get 9.5 scholarships, but also that most D1 players are come from abroad or DAP prgrams. Sounds like a true D1 prospect would be offered other monies, but a D3 school like Utica or Colby-Sawyer would also offer those things, and those are more reasonable aspirations for this group than playing at UNC. So thanks again for the info. My message will be that grades and skill devolpment can both increase chances of playing at the next level and getting some money, but that level is more likely to be at a Bates or a Clark, and that is a lot to be proud of.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Their dreams will get crushed soon enough. First, making a top college program outside of BDA or having a foreign passport is slim to none. Take a look at the resumes of rostered players at many of those schools. Few if any will be from "small" clubs. Second, what someone posted above about scholarship money is very true. Full rides are almost non existent in men's soccer and would primarily go to say an NT player or a top keeper. Even if a coach has 9.9 fully funded scholarship dollars to play around with, he's dealing with rosters of at least 25 players. Schools can come up with other monies - financial aid if you qualify and merit money if you have great grades/scores - but athletic dollars are scarce.
                Also check the roster for foreign players- many (most?) have at least of handful of foreign players in key positions. These kids don't qualify for federal financial aid, so it's a good bet these kids are getting lots of the available athletic scholarship money.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  OP here. Thanks and no, I am not BTN. I was a town coach for some of these kids and feel a little extra invested in the soccer stuff. Parents and kids alike of these mostly freshmen in high school are already talking about how soccer can help for college. Some of the kids, like young basketball or baseball players, still even entertain ideas of being a pro. It is very helpful to be able to say that not only does a D1 squad of 25 players at best get 9.5 scholarships, but also that most D1 players are come from abroad or DAP prgrams. Sounds like a true D1 prospect would be offered other monies, but a D3 school like Utica or Colby-Sawyer would also offer those things, and those are more reasonable aspirations for this group than playing at UNC. So thanks again for the info. My message will be that grades and skill devolpment can both increase chances of playing at the next level and getting some money, but that level is more likely to be at a Bates or a Clark, and that is a lot to be proud of.
                  Good grades will always offer more opportunities for better schools and academic $ (which is almost always good for all four years while athletic $ is year to year - tell them that too). Tell them to start with these sobering numbers below, and encourage them to look at the rosters of schools they aspire to. Like I said, sobering.

                  http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Good grades will always offer more opportunities for better schools and academic $ (which is almost always good for all four years while athletic $ is year to year - tell them that too). Tell them to start with these sobering numbers below, and encourage them to look at the rosters of schools they aspire to. Like I said, sobering.

                    http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html
                    Be careful about these numbers- footnote 2 says it's the average scholarships number is for ALL sports. So then the number in the 2nd table- applicable to just soccer- is more encouraging but also pretty hard to believe (if the first table is right).

                    You'd have to think the second table is a small sample size as those number look suspect (and for schools which doesn't have football or something).

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Be careful about these numbers- footnote 2 says it's the average scholarships number is for ALL sports. So then the number in the 2nd table- applicable to just soccer- is more encouraging but also pretty hard to believe (if the first table is right).

                      You'd have to think the second table is a small sample size as those number look suspect (and for schools which doesn't have football or something).
                      OP - I don't even pay attention to the scholarship $ because like you said it's across all sports and the sample sizes are questionable. The more important reality is the fewer number of D1 programs out there for men and the much lower number of max scholarships (even few since not all are fully funded). It doesn't take much imagination to see the likelihood of significant monies is very low. In many cases with strong grades a student athlete will see bigger merit grants than athletic. The poster asking what sounds like a lower level team (coach?) should share information with families so that they have a more realistic picture of the ugly realities of men's soccer.

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                        D1
                        Nathan Plano - Aztec - Reading HS - Brown
                        Sam Hatem - FC Stars - Worcester Academy - Columbia
                        Cole Venner - Black Rock - Berkshire - UConn
                        Matthew Ranieri - Revs - Nobles&Greenough - Dartmouth
                        Wilhelm Jacques - Bolts - Medford - Duke
                        Rory Conway - Bolts - Brookline - Harvard
                        Max Benford - Aztec - Ipswich - Holy Cross
                        Edi Mujan - Bolts - Revere - Holy Cross
                        Justin Rennicks - Revs - Hamilton/Wenham - Indiana
                        Trey Miller - Revs - Monson - Louisville
                        Ben Ludwick - FC Stars - Acton/Boxborough - PC
                        Alex Shterenberg - Revs - Westwood - Michigan St
                        Nicholas Woodruff - Revs - Attleborough - Michigan St
                        Jonathan Wolf - NEFC - Worcester Academy - UNH
                        Adama Kaba - Hammer - St Sebastian - Northeastern
                        Noah Abrams - Manhattan - Berkshire - Northeastern
                        Edward Walsh - Revs - Westwood - Xavier

                        D2
                        Mauricio Martinez - Aztecs - Revere - Assumption
                        Ha Tim Brahimi - GPS - Franklin - Bentley
                        Hayden Yakola - Liverpool - Nauset - Bentley
                        Kyle Archambault - Bolts - St Johns Shrewsbury - Bentley

                        D3
                        Jack O'Brien - GPS - Milton Academy - Amherst
                        Andy Manos - GPS - NMH - Brandeis
                        Chris Russo - FC Stars - Westford - Brandeis
                        Samson Heyer - FC Stars - Amherst HS - Colorado College
                        Justin Miranda - Aztec - Winchester - Connecticut College
                        Liam Donelan - FC Stars - Milton HS - Connecticut College
                        Grayson Presutti - GPS - Hingham - Denison
                        Ryan Horan - GPS - Norwell - Franklin & Marshall
                        Jack Fell - GPS - Concord Carlisle - Hobart*
                        Liam Thor - Blackrock FC - Berkshire - Kenyon
                        Justin Burns - GPS - Walpole - Mass Maritime
                        Matthew Hyer - FC Stars - Groton Dunstable - Middlebury
                        Jacob LaBranche - Liverpool - Nauset - Middlebury
                        Connor Edwards - Western - NMH - Roger Williams
                        Josh Polakiewicz - Aztecs - Masconomet - Roger Williams
                        James Nicholas - FSA - NMH - St Lawrence
                        Spenser Nagi - ? - Westborough - St Josephs College
                        Jamie Marden - Aztec - Marblehead - Trinity College (CT)
                        Quentin van der Lee - Black Rock - Berkshire - Trinity(TX)
                        Omar al - Homsi Hernandez - FC Blazers - Bromfield - Union
                        Poom Mera - Revs/GPS - Swansea - Union
                        Nicholas Ranieri - GPS - Nobles&Greenough - Williams

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                          Evan Glass - Aztec - Masconomet - Brandeis
                          Marco Kaper - Aztec -Manchester-Essex - Middlebury
                          Phineas Santello - Aztec - Arlington - Trinity (CT)

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                            D1
                            Nathan Plano - Aztec - Reading HS - Brown
                            Sam Hatem - FC Stars - Worcester Academy - Columbia
                            Cole Venner - Black Rock - Berkshire - UConn
                            Matthew Ranieri - Revs - Nobles&Greenough - Dartmouth
                            Wilhelm Jacques - Bolts - Medford - Duke
                            Rory Conway - Bolts - Brookline - Harvard
                            Max Benford - Aztec - Ipswich - Holy Cross
                            Edi Mujan - Bolts - Revere - Holy Cross
                            Justin Rennicks - Revs - Hamilton/Wenham - Indiana
                            Trey Miller - Revs - Monson - Louisville
                            Ben Ludwick - FC Stars - Acton/Boxborough - PC
                            Alex Shterenberg - Revs - Westwood - Michigan St
                            Nicholas Woodruff - Revs - Attleborough - Michigan St
                            Jonathan Wolf - NEFC - Worcester Academy - UNH
                            Adama Kaba - Hammer - St Sebastian - Northeastern
                            Noah Abrams - Manhattan - Berkshire - Northeastern
                            Edward Walsh - Revs - Westwood - Xavier

                            D2
                            Mauricio Martinez - Aztecs - Revere - Assumption
                            Ha Tim Brahimi - GPS - Franklin - Bentley
                            Hayden Yakola - Liverpool - Nauset - Bentley
                            Kyle Archambault - Bolts - St Johns Shrewsbury - Bentley

                            D3
                            Jack O'Brien - GPS - Milton Academy - Amherst
                            Andy Manos - GPS - NMH - Brandeis
                            Chris Russo - FC Stars - Westford - Brandeis
                            Evan Glass - Aztecs - Masconomet - Brandeis*
                            Samson Heyer - FC Stars - Amherst HS - Colorado College
                            Justin Miranda - Aztec - Winchester - Connecticut College
                            Liam Donelan - FC Stars - Milton HS - Connecticut College
                            Grayson Presutti - GPS - Hingham - Denison
                            Ryan Horan - GPS - Norwell - Franklin & Marshall
                            Jack Fell - GPS - Concord Carlisle - Hobart
                            Liam Thor - Blackrock FC - Berkshire - Kenyon
                            Justin Burns - GPS - Walpole - Mass Maritime
                            Matthew Hyer - FC Stars - Groton Dunstable - Middlebury
                            Jacob LaBranche - Liverpool - Nauset - Middlebury
                            Marco Kaper - Aztec - Manchester-Essex - Middlebury*
                            Connor Edwards - Western - NMH - Roger Williams
                            Josh Polakiewicz - Aztecs - Masconomet - Roger Williams
                            James Nicholas - FSA - NMH - St Lawrence
                            Spenser Nagi - ? - Westborough - St Josephs College
                            Jamie Marden - Aztec - Marblehead - Trinity College (CT)
                            Phineas Santello - Aztec - Arlington - Trinity College (CT)*
                            Quentin van der Lee - Black Rock - Berkshire - Trinity(TX)
                            Omar al - Homsi Hernandez - FC Blazers - Bromfield - Union
                            Poom Mera - Revs/GPS - Swansea - Union
                            Nicholas Ranieri - GPS - Nobles&Greenough - Williams

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                              Looking at the D1's

                              4 Ivies
                              11 New England Schools
                              6 Stepped into programs outside of region

                              All that went beyond New England played for the academies.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered
                                Looking at the D1's

                                4 Ivies
                                11 New England Schools
                                6 Stepped into programs outside of region

                                All that went beyond New England played for the academies.
                                All but two played for prep schools or academies.

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