Comparing GA, ECNL and ECRL

[Guest]

This kind of post has been made a few times.

This coming year, GA in MA will be very weak compared to ECNL. Same regionally and nationally. ... All comparisons should now be GA v ECRL.

In case it's not just this one very confused person, some facts. GA is much better than ECRL. In particular, either of the NEFC GA teams will be way ahead of RL.

- NEFC and STA in GA could be competitive in ECNL

- SDA, Seacoast and Oakwood in GA are interchangeable with FSA, East Meadow and Stars White at the bottom of ECNL. The 8 ECNL teams have a much wider spread of quality than the generic ECNL hype posts want you to believe.

- The rest of the current GA clubs (in NY and NJ) are on a par with Stars Blue RL and generally better than the rest of the ECRL teams.

- The two new GA clubs, Bayside and RI Surf, are overall better right now than SUSA, FSA and East Meadow at the bottom of ECRL. Next year they should improve if they draw some talent. GA and ECRL may both have some games that aren't really worth playing.

Of course, coaches and teammates may be a factor, as well as style of play, commute, time commitment, etc. In other words, the blanket comparisons here across the alphabets can't, of course, be useful.

[Guest]

This kind of post has been made a few times.



In case it's not just this one very confused person, some facts. GA is much better than ECRL. In particular, either of the NEFC GA teams will be way ahead of RL.

- NEFC and STA in GA could be competitive in ECNL

- SDA, Seacoast and Oakwood in GA are interchangeable with FSA, East Meadow and Stars White at the bottom of ECNL. The 8 ECNL teams have a much wider spread of quality than the generic ECNL hype posts want you to believe.

- The rest of the current GA clubs (in NY and NJ) are on a par with Stars Blue RL and generally better than the rest of the ECRL teams.

- The two new GA clubs, Bayside and RI Surf, are overall better right now than SUSA, FSA and East Meadow at the bottom of ECRL. Next year they should improve if they draw some talent. GA and ECRL may both have some games that aren't really worth playing.

Of course, coaches and teammates may be a factor, as well as style of play, commute, time commitment, etc. In other words, the blanket comparisons here across the alphabets can't, of course, be useful.

It all remains to be seen. Truly curious how you can say NEFC’s new GA teams will be better than ECRL.

In just about every age group, Stars ECRL teams rank higher than NEFC DPL and definitely NEFC NS DPL.

Remember folks, just because someone speaks the loudest doesn’t make the message true.

[Guest]

This kind of post has been made a few times.



In case it's not just this one very confused person, some facts. GA is much better than ECRL. In particular, either of the NEFC GA teams will be way ahead of RL.

- NEFC and STA in GA could be competitive in ECNL

- SDA, Seacoast and Oakwood in GA are interchangeable with FSA, East Meadow and Stars White at the bottom of ECNL. The 8 ECNL teams have a much wider spread of quality than the generic ECNL hype posts want you to believe.

- The rest of the current GA clubs (in NY and NJ) are on a par with Stars Blue RL and generally better than the rest of the ECRL teams.

- The two new GA clubs, Bayside and RI Surf, are overall better right now than SUSA, FSA and East Meadow at the bottom of ECRL. Next year they should improve if they draw some talent. GA and ECRL may both have some games that aren't really worth playing.

Of course, coaches and teammates may be a factor, as well as style of play, commute, time commitment, etc. In other words, the blanket comparisons here across the alphabets can't, of course, be useful.

Above is all a sales pitch from a GA fanboy/fangirl. Adding dozens of DPL level teams does not make a top league better. Repeatedly saying GA is good does not make it so.

Answer this one question: SSS was in the best position to assess the pros/cons of GA relative to ECNL, and was most heavily invested in selling the pros of GA, so why would SSS leave GA for ECNL if GA was as good or better than ECNL?

[Guest]

Don't forget the number of nefc starters leaving. All replacements are coming from DPL.

it won't matter to the club's ability to win because the level of competition has gone down. Not just by the introduction of weak teams to replace Select/Nationals/etc, but because all the top national GA teams will be losing top players to ecnl.

this double whammy will result in a scouting drain at their national events over the next two years. that sure as hell will matter to the clubs. 2010 and younger should run.

[Guest]

It all remains to be seen. Truly curious how you can say NEFC’s new GA teams will be better than ECRL.

In just about every age group, Stars ECRL teams rank higher than NEFC DPL and definitely NEFC NS DPL.

Remember folks, just because someone speaks the loudest doesn’t make the message true.

And remember, folks, spreading manure (like this post) around doesn't make the truth less true.

Like "It all remains to be seen." Actually, the teams in the leagues are pretty much known.

And the posts above were about the league vs league comparison of GA and ECRL. Obviously you can't argue with how ridiculous that is, so you'll try to argue club vs club or team vs team.

Let's do club vs club. Obviously NEFC's current team beats much of ECNL and crushes all of ECRL. For the 2nd team, specifics are TBD. And it will vary by age year, as always.

But even if NEFC just plugged in one the DPL teams, they would be on a par with the RL teams (see below), and playing in a better league. And that's pretty much a worst case scenario for NEFC. There's a lot of upside for NEFC, especially given what people are posting about interest in NEFC White.

But sure, place your bets with your player's next year of soccer where you think best.

btw, what's the latest on the rumors that most of the Scorpions South RL2 players are planning to play GA next year?


2007
8 Stars White RL
10 Scorpions South RL2
11 Scorpions RL
16 NEFC DPL
19 Stars Blue RL

2008
7 NEFC DPL
9 Stars Blue RL
11 Stars White RL
12 Scorpions South RL2
14 Scorpions RL

2009
6 Stars Blue RL
9 Scorpions South RL2
11 Stars White RL
12 Scorpions RL
14 NEFC NS DPL

2010
7 NEFC NS DPL
8 Stars Blue RL
11 Stars White RL
15 Scorpions RL

2011
4 Scorpions South RL2
6 Stars Blue RL
11 NEFC DPL
16 Scorpions RL
28 Stars White RL

[Guest]

Don't forget the number of nefc starters leaving. All replacements are coming from DPL.

it won't matter to the club's ability to win because the level of competition has gone down. Not just by the introduction of weak teams to replace Select/Nationals/etc, but because all the top national GA teams will be losing top players to ecnl.

this double whammy will result in a scouting drain at their national events over the next two years. that sure as hell will matter to the clubs. 2010 and younger should run.

My kid plays on a top GA Southwest team.

We recently cut a GA player and picked up an ECNL player. The ECNL team that we pulled from tried to recruit the player our coach pushed out and she turned them down.

Unfortunate situation because the player was really good and our coach cut her more because of the drama her dad was creating then her performance on the field.

Also, this thread is such a transparent ECNL cheerleader love fest.

[Guest]

And remember, folks, spreading manure (like this post) around doesn't make the truth less true.

Like "It all remains to be seen." Actually, the teams in the leagues are pretty much known.

And the posts above were about the league vs league comparison of GA and ECRL. Obviously you can't argue with how ridiculous that is, so you'll try to argue club vs club or team vs team.

Let's do club vs club. Obviously NEFC's current team beats much of ECNL and crushes all of ECRL. For the 2nd team, specifics are TBD. And it will vary by age year, as always.

But even if NEFC just plugged in one the DPL teams, they would be on a par with the RL teams (see below), and playing in a better league. And that's pretty much a worst case scenario for NEFC. There's a lot of upside for NEFC, especially given what people are posting about interest in NEFC White.

But sure, place your bets with your player's next year of soccer where you think best.

btw, what's the latest on the rumors that most of the Scorpions South RL2 players are planning to play GA next year?


2007
8 Stars White RL
10 Scorpions South RL2
11 Scorpions RL
16 NEFC DPL
19 Stars Blue RL

2008
7 NEFC DPL
9 Stars Blue RL
11 Stars White RL
12 Scorpions South RL2
14 Scorpions RL

2009
6 Stars Blue RL
9 Scorpions South RL2
11 Stars White RL
12 Scorpions RL
14 NEFC NS DPL

2010
7 NEFC NS DPL
8 Stars Blue RL
11 Stars White RL
15 Scorpions RL

2011
4 Scorpions South RL2
6 Stars Blue RL
11 NEFC DPL
16 Scorpions RL
28 Stars White RL

One certainty has to admire this person’s passion. One should also question why he or she is so passionate about GA soccer.

[Guest]

One certainty has to admire this person’s passion. One should also question why he or she is so passionate about GA soccer.

Glad you agree this was BS:

"In just about every age group, Stars ECRL teams rank higher than NEFC DPL and definitely NEFC NS DPL."

[Guest]

My kid plays on a top GA Southwest team.

We recently cut a GA player and picked up an ECNL player. The ECNL team that we pulled from tried to recruit the player our coach pushed out and she turned them down.

Unfortunate situation because the player was really good and our coach cut her more because of the drama her dad was creating then her performance on the field.

Also, this thread is such a transparent ECNL cheerleader love fest.

You go out of your way to tell us that this dad is nuts.

Then you tell us he refused to join ECNL so that means something??

some consistency, please.

[Guest]

Glad you agree this was BS:

"In just about every age group, Stars ECRL teams rank higher than NEFC DPL and definitely NEFC NS DPL."

Oh, my man. You’re killing me. The RL teams rank higher than NEFC DPL in 4 of 5 age groups and higher than NEFC NS DPL in 4 of 5. Collectively, if you want to count them together, 3/5.

I suspect what you’re trying to prove is NEFC > ECRL and you’re failing miserably and the league as a whole is in a downward spiral. Add in SUSC and the new GA teams and your argument gets even worse.

Like I said though, I admire your passion. It’s cute.

[Guest]

And remember, folks, spreading manure (like this post) around doesn't make the truth less true.

Like "It all remains to be seen." Actually, the teams in the leagues are pretty much known.

And the posts above were about the league vs league comparison of GA and ECRL. Obviously you can't argue with how ridiculous that is, so you'll try to argue club vs club or team vs team.

Let's do club vs club. Obviously NEFC's current team beats much of ECNL and crushes all of ECRL. For the 2nd team, specifics are TBD. And it will vary by age year, as always.

But even if NEFC just plugged in one the DPL teams, they would be on a par with the RL teams (see below), and playing in a better league. And that's pretty much a worst case scenario for NEFC. There's a lot of upside for NEFC, especially given what people are posting about interest in NEFC White.

But sure, place your bets with your player's next year of soccer where you think best.

btw, what's the latest on the rumors that most of the Scorpions South RL2 players are planning to play GA next year?


2007
8 Stars White RL
10 Scorpions South RL2
11 Scorpions RL
16 NEFC DPL
19 Stars Blue RL

2008
7 NEFC DPL
9 Stars Blue RL
11 Stars White RL
12 Scorpions South RL2
14 Scorpions RL

2009
6 Stars Blue RL
9 Scorpions South RL2
11 Stars White RL
12 Scorpions RL
14 NEFC NS DPL

2010
7 NEFC NS DPL
8 Stars Blue RL
11 Stars White RL
15 Scorpions RL

2011
4 Scorpions South RL2
6 Stars Blue RL
11 NEFC DPL
16 Scorpions RL
28 Stars White RL

What are you arguing? Linear thoughts please.

[Guest]

Weird. I look at that list and see how average or worse the ECRL teams are.

ECRL = DPL

[Guest]

You go out of your way to tell us that this dad is nuts.

Then you tell us he refused to join ECNL so that means something??

some consistency, please.

Not sure what you're trying to say. I told you want happened.

Crazy? Not really. The parent has a jet and flew out to watch his kid play in Arizona. We have over 18 which means someone is going to sit before each game. I don't think jet dad was communicated to that his kid would sit the game out before it happened.

This pissed jet dad off and caused a huge issue with the team. Coach decided it was easier to boot his kid than it was to address the issues her dad created.

The part I think is stupid was that jet dad should have offered to fly our coach and DOC out for the games that weekend. This would have guaranteed his kid starts and gets treated like gold in the club.

[Guest]

What are you arguing? Linear thoughts please.

GA Northeast has several ECNL level teams. ECRL has none.

[Guest]

Weird. I look at that list and see how average or worse the ECRL teams are.

ECRL = DPL

That’s the whole darn point. All of those DPL teams are now in GA. Nobody is saying ECRL is great. What they are saying is that GA=ECRL.