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    New D1 substitution rules

    Is the new substitution rule only for men’s D1? I initially read it as both men’s and women’s but now I’m unclear. EIther way, I like the new rule…it eliminates the hockey style substitution patterns, players will have to be slightly more fit, coach’s decisions will matter.

    #2
    Originally posted by Guest View Post
    Is the new substitution rule only for men’s D1? I initially read it as both men’s and women’s but now I’m unclear. EIther way, I like the new rule…it eliminates the hockey style substitution patterns, players will have to be slightly more fit, coach’s decisions will matter.
    It’s only being implemented for men’s soccer. What it means is the coaches will have 6 chances during the match to make a substitution. In addition, this rule will severely limit coaches rotation especially those players that play 10-15 per half/per game. I am against this rule and how it will affect the vast majority of players on a roster. Makes no sense in college to not allow a player back in once substituted.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      It’s only being implemented for men’s soccer. What it means is the coaches will have 6 chances during the match to make a substitution. In addition, this rule will severely limit coaches rotation especially those players that play 10-15 per half/per game. I am against this rule and how it will affect the vast majority of players on a roster. Makes no sense in college to not allow a player back in once substituted.
      I agree. I attend a good deal of division one games, and I don't find the substitutions too be too interfering with the pace of the game. Furthermore, with many division one rosters being quite large, and with the transfer portal becoming a larger factor, I think both players and coaches are going to find this switch to be problematic. Coaches will be restricted when it comes to finding playing time for players, other players will be forced to play additional minutes in a season that is already packed with games, and other players will be relegated to the bench which will likely trigger greater interest in the transfer portal. Not sure what triggered the switch nor what it hopes to accomplish.

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        #4
        Why even play soccer if there's unlimited substitutions?

        Just play Futsal.

        What is college soccer training players to become? The game is completely different with limited substitutions. Concepts like possessions mean nothing when the other team never gets tired because coaches can rotate players with unlimited substitutions.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          Why even play soccer if there's unlimited substitutions?

          Just play Futsal.

          What is college soccer training players to become? The game is completely different with limited substitutions. Concepts like possessions mean nothing when the other team never gets tired because coaches can rotate players with unlimited substitutions.
          If you think College soccer substitutions is similar to futsal then there is no discussion. Have you ever watched college soccer? Without Substitutions you will see poorer play and tired legs. You will see greater injuries for those players who have to sprint up and down the field. Substitutions allow teams to make fresh changes that help the teams make adjustments. I could go on and on. Coaches will hate this rule change especially those teams that have great depth of talent.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            If you think College soccer substitutions is similar to futsal then there is no discussion. Have you ever watched college soccer? Without Substitutions you will see poorer play and tired legs. You will see greater injuries for those players who have to sprint up and down the field. Substitutions allow teams to make fresh changes that help the teams make adjustments. I could go on and on. Coaches will hate this rule change especially those teams that have great depth of talent.
            Ugh, sigh...

            The reason D1 is limiting the number of substitutions is to better align with the way soccer is played internationally. They're doing this so when players graduate college they have a chance at playing professionally.

            When you limit the number of substitutions soccer becomes more of a game of chess. With unlimited substitutions coaches just need to find big fast sprinters that can be rotated out at every throw in. This is one of the major reasons America gets killed in the mens World Cup.

            Possession doesn't work when your opponents have unlimited substitutions. Again if you can't win with possession, skill and passing are thrown out the window. All coaches need is big, powerful, and fast players with low soccer IQs that only know how to attack the goal.

            Put in youth soccer terms it's the difference between U7 "bunch ball" and u13+ GA or ECNL tactics.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Guest View Post
              Why even play soccer if there's unlimited substitutions?

              Just play Futsal.

              What is college soccer training players to become? The game is completely different with limited substitutions. Concepts like possessions mean nothing when the other team never gets tired because coaches can rotate players with unlimited substitutions.
              Why even post if you're going to just say something completely stupid and irrelevant?

              Nobody said unlimited subs, good way to show you're not serious.

              There are so many advantages to allowing players to return in the second half. Fewer injuries, better quality of play, ...

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                #8
                Originally posted by Guest View Post
                Why even post if you're going to just say something completely stupid and irrelevant?

                Nobody said unlimited subs, good way to show you're not serious.

                There are so many advantages to allowing players to return in the second half. Fewer injuries, better quality of play, ...
                You're right in fact you're so right that D1 men's soccer is moving away from unlimited subs to better align with the international game.

                D1 soccer is choosing to make the change for less substitutions to keep from being a completely irrelevant joke.

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                  #9
                  So even when you play an easy team you will not really have a chance to get your younger players some experience

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post
                    So even when you play an easy team you will not really have a chance to get your younger players some experience
                    If D1 college wants to cater to parents they should break out teams by age, just like youth clubs do.

                    If your kid isn't getting minutes on a college team transfer somewhere else. Dont lobby to make the rules easier so your kid can touch the field.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post
                      So even when you play an easy team you will not really have a chance to get your younger players some experience
                      That’s how it works worldwide. This is a global game, not an American game. Good to align with the rest of the world.

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                        #12
                        Proper Football is indeed a worldwide game, but college soccer is distinctly US. I’m not seeing where or why NCAA should align to anything other than the needs of the college market. Is US college soccer a pathway to the pros or US National team?

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                          #13
                          It's a shame this wasn't rolled out for the women. It's the only thing that will force college coaches to focus on skill rather than beep tests.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post
                            Proper Football is indeed a worldwide game, but college soccer is distinctly US. I’m not seeing where or why NCAA should align to anything other than the needs of the college market. Is US college soccer a pathway to the pros or US National team?
                            Exactly, i fully agree with your sentiments. Anyone who thinks this is a beneficial rule change for soccer either has never played soccer, have a kid playing college soccer or watched a college game. So many TS posters whine about lack of college development of players and yet limiting playing time will inhibit growth of the vast majority of a teams roster. With unlimited substitutions this allows coaches the ability to play those freshman/sophmores who have limited experience for 10-15 minutes in the end of the first half. For those that are aware of college soccer coaches calls them “quality” minutes which give coaches a chance to watch them play in a competitive environment and learn to “trust” them in matches that actually matter as in league games. The soccer culture in this country will never align with European culture. For those repeating that mantra have no understanding of soccer around the world and the different cultures. This action and change of the substitution rules will effect the vast majority of players greatly and will lead to more injuries to the core players on each team. I hope this rule does not carry over to the girls side.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              Exactly, i fully agree with your sentiments. Anyone who thinks this is a beneficial rule change for soccer either has never played soccer, have a kid playing college soccer or watched a college game. So many TS posters whine about lack of college development of players and yet limiting playing time will inhibit growth of the vast majority of a teams roster. With unlimited substitutions this allows coaches the ability to play those freshman/sophmores who have limited experience for 10-15 minutes in the end of the first half. For those that are aware of college soccer coaches calls them “quality” minutes which give coaches a chance to watch them play in a competitive environment and learn to “trust” them in matches that actually matter as in league games. The soccer culture in this country will never align with European culture. For those repeating that mantra have no understanding of soccer around the world and the different cultures. This action and change of the substitution rules will affect the vast majority of players greatly and will lead to more injuries to the core players on each team. I hope this rule does not carry over to the girls side.
                              So dumb. Americans are the dumbest and most arrogant people on Earth.

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