ECNL and GA club changes - official announcements

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Girls Academy has given up trying to compete with ecnl.

their approach is now bringing soccer to underdeveloped areas hence the addition of all these unheard of clubs.

ECNL boys is being decimated by mls next. Their only chance at survival is to take the remaining champions league clubs

Honestly, ECNL trying to jump into the boys game was a really silly move. NPL had it already taken care of as the #2 league (also US Club) behind DA. It could have stayed the same when MLSN launched.

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Looking at the rankings app the GA clubs at Champions Cup would beat 80% of the ECNL clubs and they'd be an even match for the upper 15% of ECNL cliubs.

The top 5% of ECNL would still likely beat GA top teams/clubs. But, it varies by age.

So the bandwagon ECNL dads can still gloat that their league is "better" than GA. Unfortunately, the top ECNL 5% are in California and Texas so if you're in MA all you're doing is riding their coattails.

Thx GA daddy. Does that crappy app weight the ecnl games more than the games or the edp games? No so take your rankings app and on it

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Thx GA daddy. Does that crappy app weight the ecnl games more than the games or the edp games? No so take your rankings app and on it

It includes cross league play that generally occurs at tournaments where GA and ECNL teams play each other.

usasportstatistics.net

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The app uses the strength of schedule of each team. Just like every other decent seeding/ranking app.

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The app uses the strength of schedule of each team. Just like every other decent seeding/ranking app.

ECNL daddy is not a Math daddy ;-)

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The GA Champions Cup teams are similar to the the top teams in the New England ECNL conference. Qualify some teams for Nationals, send a rare team through to the knock out, never really challenge for the final four. Very good teams. Not really elite.

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The app uses the strength of schedule of each team. Just like every other decent seeding/ranking app.

One thing I'm starting to see with the rankings app is really good GA teams don't get ranked as high as equivalent ECNL teams.

This is because the rankings app calculates strength of the league into each teams overall ranking.

To address to GA teams would need to blow out the not so good GA teams in league and score as many goals as possible. Which in general is frowned upon when you're up by 5-6 goals. Or play in tournaments where higher ranked ECNL teams are playing.

ECNL teams should watch out for highly ranked GA teams that play in lower strength leagues at tournaments.

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The app uses the strength of schedule of each team. Just like every other decent seeding/ranking app.

Umm just so you know that makes a broad assumption that the rankings that sos is built on is accurate. It’s not. That doesn’t adjust for strength of league. You lol you don’t get it.

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Umm just so you know that makes a broad assumption that the rankings that sos is built on is accurate. It’s not. That doesn’t adjust for strength of league. You lol you don’t get it.

The strength of league is built in because you win and lose against higher ranked teams. Get it?

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The strength of league is built in because you win and lose against higher ranked teams. Get it?

Umm no because if you win more games vs bad opponents you get a higher ranking. You know if you beat sorry GA teams you get a higher ranking but if you lose vs a PDA you will get a lower ranking and therefore you will end up overall lower. Get it?

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It’s a joke. My D’Souza team went from top 10 to being ranked in the 30’s without playing a game.(fall-winter)

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Umm no because if you win more games vs bad opponents you get a higher ranking. You know if you beat sorry GA teams you get a higher ranking but if you lose vs a PDA you will get a lower ranking and therefore you will end up overall lower. Get it?

That's not exactly true (but mostly true)

In theory you can be a really good team in a crappy league. However to overcome the league strength adjustments you need to beat every league opponent by X number of goals (think like 8-0 games).

The problem with this is when really good teams get ahead of crappy teams it's tradition, customary, "nice" to lay off the gas and stop scoring goals once you're up by 5-6.

You are correct that a loss when you're playing in a lower strength league effects your ranking more than a loss in a higher strength league. Assuming both teams lose the same ranked opponent.

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Umm no because if you win more games vs bad opponents you get a higher ranking. You know if you beat sorry GA teams you get a higher ranking but if you lose vs a PDA you will get a lower ranking and therefore you will end up overall lower. Get it?

If you win games against bad opponents your ranking improves, but if you win against better opponents your ranking improves more. That’s how a sensible “ranking” is developed.

If you lose against PDA you are hopefully still winning against someone else who is still good, just not as strong as PDA, in your strong league, Thar should still keep your ranking high compared to people who get crushed by PDA and your team, and who only beat opponents that are much weaker than all your teams.

Obviously if you only lose in your strong league then things are different. Do you also want participation points for being in the strong league?

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If you need to win by 8 to keep your current ranking metric then I think you’re in an inappropriate league. Time to level up.

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If you need to win by 8 to keep your current ranking metric then I think you’re in an inappropriate league. Time to level up.

It really doesn't matter.

It's just a numbers game.