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    #31
    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    I could see you standing on the sideline in your XXL Patriots Jersey and hat yelling at your kid and saying “don’t let her get away with that, do something”. Yeah, your a TS amateur for sure. Soccer is not a sport about retaliation.
    Is this an elitist remark against blue collar construction workers? *** is wrong with you?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Guest View Post
      I'm also a fan of teams walking off the field + creating a forfeit situation. If teams are being overly physical + the refs are allowing it.

      A forfeit depending on the league = a 0-1 loss. In the big picture this isn't that big of a deal. It's better than a 0-7 loss because opponents are karate chopping your players.

      If you walk from the field it sets a huge statement + its a guarantee that the refs will be questioned about what happened. Also it sets precedent that certain refs will get sued for allowing dangerous play. If there's examples of teams walking off the field good luck pleading your case to a judge.
      Refs don’t get sued. What planet do you live on?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Guest View Post
        But I guess that's my question if someone hits a player after the ball has moved on why isn't that assault? Especially if they seriously hurt the player.
        Assault? You might want to read up on what assault really is.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          I'm also a fan of teams walking off the field + creating a forfeit situation. If teams are being overly physical + the refs are allowing it.

          A forfeit depending on the league = a 0-1 loss. In the big picture this isn't that big of a deal. It's better than a 0-7 loss because opponents are karate chopping your players.

          If you walk from the field it sets a huge statement + its a guarantee that the refs will be questioned about what happened. Also it sets precedent that certain refs will get sued for allowing dangerous play. If there's examples of teams walking off the field good luck pleading your case to a judge.
          It also shows you have no mental toughness and you're weak. Good luck winning in life with your quitter attitude.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            Refs don’t get sued. What planet do you live on?
            Anyone can be sued for any reason. (It doesn't mean you'll win or lose)

            What planet do you live on?

            Add in that teams have forfeited games because they felt the ref was alloiwng dangerous play + suddently Judges show interest.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              Because players police themselves, but once the protections were put in place the stickwork increased. If players knew they will meet the same fate they dished out, they will think twice. They AWLAYS do. Seen it.

              You can't define the foul, because it's undefinable. You can only say what the result is. I've seen some absolutely horrific tackles that resulted in nothing. I've seen some that resulted in a broken leg...and the offender getting his dose soon after. I've seen nothing tackle, likely not any contact beyond a nudge, result in an ACL tear.

              If you want to start to legislate and prosecute something that cannot be defined you're going to get nowhere. Teach players to play respectful, and when their opponent doesn't, they need to stand up for themselves. Not to let mommy do it, do it themselves.

              What are you talking about? You kick a player, that is a foul. You punch a player, that is a foul and a red card. You grab a player, foul. You push a player, foul. There is no interpretation, it is in the rules. Now, you step on a player, that is generally a foul, but the severity of the call depends on the intentionality. If you were reckless in your defending and you stepped on a player’s foot as a result, that is a foul and a card.

              Depending on the severity of a punch, you can be sanctioned for several games or even for life. But a punch is a foul, there is no “interpretation” about that.

              If you have seen “horrific tackles that resulted in nothing,”
              If by horrific you mean a reckless and deliberate tackle, no matter the outcome of that tackle, a good ref with show a red card to that player.

              This is not about prosecuting someone or something. It is about protecting and encouraging skills over violence. Soccer has rules that should be taught by coaches and followed by them and by refs. Again, this is not hockey or American football, both great sports in their own way.

              I really hope you are not a coach because if that is the case, things are worst than I originally thought.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                It also shows you have no mental toughness and you're weak. Good luck winning in life with your quitter attitude.
                You're the kind of guy that will get his head bashed in while proving how tough he is.

                There's rules in soccer if refs chose to ignore them then quit and walk away. It's not worth kids getting hurt.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  You're the kind of guy that will get his head bashed in while proving how tough he is.

                  There's rules in soccer if refs chose to ignore them then quit and walk away. It's not worth kids getting hurt.
                  You're the kind of guy with a chastity belt because you have no balls. You don't run away when things get hard, you turn and face your challenge. But you wouldn't know anything about that because you have no heart or courage. Fight your own battles, when your own wars.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    You're the kind of guy with a chastity belt because you have no balls. You don't run away when things get hard, you turn and face your challenge. But you wouldn't know anything about that because you have no heart or courage. Fight your own battles, when your own wars.
                    So stupid...

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      So stupid...
                      That's pretty typical of the beta. Everyone wants to be the lion until it's time to do lion sh$t. Then the beta hides and complains. Sure you would've been out there throwing crap on soldiers returning from war. Just another clitty mass boy.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        Anyone can be sued for any reason. (It doesn't mean you'll win or lose)

                        What planet do you live on?

                        Add in that teams have forfeited games because they felt the ref was alloiwng dangerous play + suddently Judges show interest.
                        Name one case. Refs don’t get sued.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          I could see you standing on the sideline in your XXL Patriots Jersey and hat yelling at your kid and saying “don’t let her get away with that, do something”. Yeah, your a TS amateur for sure. Soccer is not a sport about retaliation.
                          it's obvious we are talking about a completely different game.

                          Some of you want daisies and sunshine and ice cream after. That's fine, but that's not the game for everyone.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            You remind me of a parent standing on the sideline at a showcase tournament whose kid was super aggressive to the point it was no longer soccer related but just retaliatory. The parent was going on that these type of players get recruited to play in college to protect the better players. This person was very serious. Are you that parent?
                            Actually, no. I don't say a word. My kid was raised to stick up for her teammates. It's fight or flight, and I guess I know which one you raised.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post
                              I'm also a fan of teams walking off the field + creating a forfeit situation. If teams are being overly physical + the refs are allowing it.

                              A forfeit depending on the league = a 0-1 loss. In the big picture this isn't that big of a deal. It's better than a 0-7 loss because opponents are karate chopping your players.

                              If you walk from the field it sets a huge statement + its a guarantee that the refs will be questioned about what happened. Also it sets precedent that certain refs will get sued for allowing dangerous play. If there's examples of teams walking off the field good luck pleading your case to a judge.
                              Reminds me of a Monty Python skit: "RUN AWAY!!!"

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Guest View Post


                                What are you talking about? You kick a player, that is a foul. You punch a player, that is a foul and a red card. You grab a player, foul. You push a player, foul. There is no interpretation, it is in the rules. Now, you step on a player, that is generally a foul, but the severity of the call depends on the intentionality. If you were reckless in your defending and you stepped on a player’s foot as a result, that is a foul and a card.

                                Depending on the severity of a punch, you can be sanctioned for several games or even for life. But a punch is a foul, there is no “interpretation” about that.

                                If you have seen “horrific tackles that resulted in nothing,”
                                If by horrific you mean a reckless and deliberate tackle, no matter the outcome of that tackle, a good ref with show a red card to that player.

                                This is not about prosecuting someone or something. It is about protecting and encouraging skills over violence. Soccer has rules that should be taught by coaches and followed by them and by refs. Again, this is not hockey or American football, both great sports in their own way.

                                I really hope you are not a coach because if that is the case, things are worst than I originally thought.
                                So, all this ramble tells me is you have no idea what a tactical foul is and what how to make them. This is funny.

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