Can someone discuss the benefits of D3 soccer.

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Do more non-athletes transfer than athletes? If so, calm down.

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Is less than 20% "many"?

Other data points have it 25-30%. Yeah I think that's a lot.

As for comparing vs non athletes: its far easier to transfer without the sports piece. I imagine those numbers are higher. A student athlete dependent of athletic scholarships may have even fewer options.

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Other data points have it 25-30%. Yeah I think that's a lot.

As for comparing vs non athletes: its far easier to transfer without the sports piece. I imagine those numbers are higher. A student athlete dependent of athletic scholarships may have even fewer options.

Still doesn't seem like something I'd term "many", but we are into semantics. Certainly not a lot and since it's less than the general population, I'm not seeing an issue.

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D3 is great experience after its said and done who really cares in soccer! Education small environment D3 is better.. D1- Pressure cooker some thrive others are not mature enough to handle not playing that's the real issue. Mature young players who learn to be patience are the ones that make it at D1! If your child is not ready to handle sitting then parents you have to wake them up ! Or find a club in travel to explain and sit your child and show them a lesson then maybe you will see the mature aspects needed at D1! Very few players start or make the field as a freshmen in D1!

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As far as student-athlete transfers it all depends where the college is on the soccer pyramid. My daughter plays in a program that each year is very competitive in their conference and plays in the NCAA tournament. They average approx 2 players per year leaving the team as transfers. Since it’s a well respected program the transfer portal has been beneficial for those players. There are approx 340 D1 programs of which at least approximately 275 of those colleges have very little chance of either winning their conference or making the NCAA tournament. It’s among those colleges where you will see a higher amount of players either quitting soccer or try to transfer. For many of those players D3 have become a great transfer option.

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D3 is great experience after its said and done who really cares in soccer! Education small environment D3 is better.. D1- Pressure cooker some thrive others are not mature enough to handle not playing that's the real issue. Mature young players who learn to be patience are the ones that make it at D1! If your child is not ready to handle sitting then parents you have to wake them up ! Or find a club in travel to explain and sit your child and show them a lesson then maybe you will see the mature aspects needed at D1! Very few players start or make the field as a freshmen in D1!

Said like a truly hysterical soccer mom! You're excitable! We can see it! You apparently don't have a kid who loves the game! Since you lead with "who cares about soccer"! Are you in the right place!?

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Still doesn't seem like something I'd term "many", but we are into semantics. Certainly not a lot and since it's less than the general population, I'm not seeing an issue.

Until it is. Different poster but I've seen athletes struggle for many reasons with their athletic choice, then realize it's not that easy to either walk away or transfer elsewhere. If you've been a starter (which not many freshman will be) you should be ok. If you barely played it's going to be harder to find a new team. One that's close to our family took a serous drop down on soccer and academics just to keep playing. Time will tell if that choice was worth it.

At some point it is going to end. None of them are going pro - and if they were then transfering will never be a problem. They can write their own ticket.

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As far as student-athlete transfers it all depends where the college is on the soccer pyramid. My daughter plays in a program that each year is very competitive in their conference and plays in the NCAA tournament. They average approx 2 players per year leaving the team as transfers. Since it’s a well respected program the transfer portal has been beneficial for those players. There are approx 340 D1 programs of which at least approximately 275 of those colleges have very little chance of either winning their conference or making the NCAA tournament. It’s among those colleges where you will see a higher amount of players either quitting soccer or try to transfer. For many of those players D3 have become a great transfer option.

Yes that definitely makes a difference, as well as any playing time. You're a tougher sell if you barely played but if it's a good program that helps get you over that.

I looked at a few of those links someone posted and they focused a lot on athlete mental health, which should always be a concern for any parent (nonathletes too) In the end what matters is if your kid is happy, getting an education and playing a sport they love. The level doesn't matter. Ignore the D1 snobs or the D3 cheerleaders. Your kid, their choice. The rest is just noise.

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Until it is. Different poster but I've seen athletes struggle for many reasons with their athletic choice, then realize it's not that easy to either walk away or transfer elsewhere. If you've been a starter (which not many freshman will be) you should be ok. If you barely played it's going to be harder to find a new team. One that's close to our family took a serous drop down on soccer and academics just to keep playing. Time will tell if that choice was worth it.

At some point it is going to end. None of them are going pro - and if they were then transfering will never be a problem. They can write their own ticket.

Sure, for the few who want to transfer. But, again, if you are an athlete you are less likely to transfer than general student. So, I really can't understand what the issue is?

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First and foremost it’s about education when you’re thinking D3. The other important area is the social aspect of the college. Most D3’s are small colleges with a few thousand students. If your daughter wants a small college then it will be fine. If she wants a bigger college with larger student population then that is a drawback. The idea of of a high academic college with a very good soccer program was appealing but the smaller college was not.

Some really great larger D3 schools out there - Tufts, John’s Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, NYU to name a few. Tons of private D1 colleges that are substantially smaller than you would expect - Holy Cross, Bryant, Sacred Heart, Fairfield. Division does not necessarily correlate with size of school or “D1 experience”. To get larger D1 state school feel, you MAY be compromising on academic side. There is no one size fits all! Best of luck to all.

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Some really great larger D3 schools out there - Tufts, John’s Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, NYU to name a few. Tons of private D1 colleges that are substantially smaller than you would expect - Holy Cross, Bryant, Sacred Heart, Fairfield. Division does not necessarily correlate with size of school or “D1 experience”. To get larger D1 state school feel, you MAY be compromising on academic side. There is no one size fits all! Best of luck to all.

Some of the really big D1s can also feel very impersonal, huge class sizes etc. For others the small D3 environment is restricting. Good news is there's lots of different schools out there.

Best advice we got was to start looking at a few schools well before recruiting started. We did a few summer before HS and freshmen year. Mix it up with big, small, rural and urban. That way when your kid is honing in on their targets they have a better idea of what they really want. There's so many in this area it's easy to go see something on a day off from school. Go see some during down time at showcases. You don't want to go far down different paths that you really don't like.

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Some really great larger D3 schools out there - Tufts, John’s Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, NYU to name a few. Tons of private D1 colleges that are substantially smaller than you would expect - Holy Cross, Bryant, Sacred Heart, Fairfield. Division does not necessarily correlate with size of school or “D1 experience”. To get larger D1 state school feel, you MAY be compromising on academic side. There is no one size fits all! Best of luck to all.

Chicago, Rochester, Emory, CWRU .... see entire UAA schools list and there are many more (MIT as well).

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If she really is a D1 Caliber player, and she has the academic chops for MIT / Williams / Tufts, I'm with the other poster. Why not Ivy?

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If she really is a D1 Caliber player, and she has the academic chops for MIT / Williams / Tufts, I'm with the other poster. Why not Ivy?

There are 340 D1 Colleges. What exactly is D1 caliber for all those colleges?

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There are 340 D1 Colleges. What exactly is D1 caliber for all those colleges?

Yeah but except for a few none are Ivy.




so there’s that