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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt's really not any more hyperbolic than a kid getting in some trouble (frenetically publicized but ultimately not worthy of even a small case scarlet letter) and a bunch of posters, and especially the ones like noted above who allegedly quoted her daughter and make damning, character-assassination statements about what she may have said on a youth soccer field, using the incident as open hunting season to ridicule and try to really damage a young woman who is still a teenager, who obviously is very accomplished athletically and academically, and who could be any our daughters (if we were so lucky). Some of you have been abusive, actually beyond abusive, and the saddest thing is that you seem to have not a clue about that at all. And before the stupid retorts come in, let me note that I wrote many posts on this thread countering those who thought there should be no suspension and who minimized the mistake. Enough really is enough. Some of you want blood, like you would feel happy to see a kid hurt themselves (or worse) over something like this.
But judging by your rant it appears you need to take a deep breath.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo, actually it really is more hyperbolic to say 30% of the country believes an abortion clinic receptionist deserves to be murdered...of course referencing Sandusky who rightfully got prison time, and Penn State who the NCAA did discipline, as not having been suspended is relevant to anything BC would consider how?
But judging by your rant it appears you need to take a deep breath.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThen you don't understand hyperbole. That poster used the abortion example to illustrate how skewed folks can be in the proportionality that they assign to things. Like as in how many pages here on these tweets and an obsessional interest in demonizing a kid as much as possible. BTW, we do live in a country where 30% believe anyone affiliated with an abortion clinic should be murdered. Not to mention the 40% who believe Obama is a Muslim terrorist.
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Y...If we're going to get into this...
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWOW an even bigger idiot.
3.) But on the issue of PSU, I fall into the camp that they should not even have been allowed to have sports at all for a year...period...YES collateral damage for those there now who had nothing to do (free to transfer w out impunity)w the horrendous acts committied by Jerry Sandusky, and those who condoned and/or covered up his heinous crimes...the most sordid NCAA violation in the history of collegiate sports...they have paid a price...In my humble opinion, they should have paid a heavier one? This WAS A CULTURE...A SYCHOPHANT FAN BASE that allowed people like Joe Paterno and his staff to become some of the most influential people in the state of PA...a fan base that was flipping cars on national T.V., w students rioting in support of "Joe Pa" at his house?? Are you freaking kidding me?! Where was their empathy for the victims? Where was the PSU fan who replied back to SM maybe: "Ms McCaffrey, although we do not appreciate your actions, we understand how divisive this topic is, and the feelings that athletes and others from the o/s are still harboring from this heinous act...WE are still learning and recovering as well..."?? You people need to separate your petty soccer jealousies; and ill will towards a 19 yr. old who make a dumb mistake, but it is a very bright, personable athlete, who's a good kid...
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Give it a rest, it's done. Your rational is it's ok because she is young and everyone else is doing it. Doesn't this individual have any standards to live by and know what is right or wrong? What she did is not ok and she got called on it. The question is will she have learned anything from it. It's that simple.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post1.) I love Bacon, or SM; and I love her drive, moxy and personality; but, we know what she did hurt her team and we have to be careful w social media. 2.) BC did NOT handle that sit. properly (as internal as it should have been); and I bet the AD now knows as much?...it's pretty easy to make an example of the woman soccer star right? Ask yourself how that would have been handled if it was Chase Retting, the QB on the FB team; or the 2nd leading scorer on the hockey team before a "frozen four " game or something? Please...not an apologist; not agreeing in what she did but how it was handled, w all the other transgressions going on in Div. 1 athletics?? From a BC perspective, this issue is simply DEAD AND BURIED...lesson learned, we move on, and SM will be out there game 1 next yr., and doing what she almost always does: scoring and setting her teammates up to score.
3.) But on the issue of PSU, I fall into the camp that they should not even have been allowed to have sports at all for a year...period...YES collateral damage for those there now who had nothing to do (free to transfer w out impunity)w the horrendous acts committied by Jerry Sandusky, and those who condoned and/or covered up his heinous crimes...the most sordid NCAA violation in the history of collegiate sports...they have paid a price...In my humble opinion, they should have paid a heavier one? This WAS A CULTURE...A SYCHOPHANT FAN BASE that allowed people like Joe Paterno and his staff to become some of the most influential people in the state of PA...a fan base that was flipping cars on national T.V., w students rioting in support of "Joe Pa" at his house?? Are you freaking kidding me?! Where was their empathy for the victims? Where was the PSU fan who replied back to SM maybe: "Ms McCaffrey, although we do not appreciate your actions, we understand how divisive this topic is, and the feelings that athletes and others from the o/s are still harboring from this heinous act...WE are still learning and recovering as well..."?? You people need to separate your petty soccer jealousies; and ill will towards a 19 yr. old who make a dumb mistake, but it is a very bright, personable athlete, who's a good kid...
2. Didn't handle it properly? Says you. BC took action they deem appropriate and they are the sole arbiter of what that means. This is a discipline and compliance matter - it's deterring as much as it's about punishment in light of the nature of the circumstances.
3. Penn State is a separate discussion and even more irrelevant here than the player. The actions of the player suspended is central to handling the situation, the context and not the content is all that matters.
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PSU has a full time staff person who googles the name Sandusky every day. My daughter who has friends on that team - not from Mass- was told this by two of them. The person then looks up the reference (or the tweet in this case) and, in the case of a tweet, most of the time cannot see it. Unfortunately, and stupidly, SM did not have a private setting and hers was open for all to see. Then PSU sets the attack dogs on the author/poster/tweeter etc., in this case SM.
PSU is VERY powerful and quite defensive at this point. I wish they had worked this hard to get Sandusky before they began worrying about NCAA penalties and possible Cleary Act violations. SM was stupid, got caught and punished. I also note that other team members - including a captain - egged her on - so there were a number of players who showed poor judgment. I expect they all have learned a good lesson in this.
Give it a rest, it is done (love how that was followed by another attack above). Please note there's no apology for the behavior here so stop with the BC apologist crap. She was insensitive to the victims and stupid about the privacy setting. She had no chance against the PSU behemoth. She was punished. Give it a rest, it is done.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostPSU has a full time staff person who googles the name Sandusky every day. My daughter who has friends on that team - not from Mass- was told this by two of them. The person then looks up the reference (or the tweet in this case) and, in the case of a tweet, most of the time cannot see it. Unfortunately, and stupidly, SM did not have a private setting and hers was open for all to see. Then PSU sets the attack dogs on the author/poster/tweeter etc., in this case SM.
PSU is VERY powerful and quite defensive at this point. I wish they had worked this hard to get Sandusky before they began worrying about NCAA penalties and possible Cleary Act violations. SM was stupid, got caught and punished. I also note that other team members - including a captain - egged her on - so there were a number of players who showed poor judgment. I expect they all have learned a good lesson in this.
Give it a rest, it is done (love how that was followed by another attack above). Please note there's no apology for the behavior here so stop with the BC apologist crap. She was insensitive to the victims and stupid about the privacy setting. She had no chance against the PSU behemoth. She was punished. Give it a rest, it is done.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostPSU has a full time staff person who googles the name Sandusky every day. My daughter who has friends on that team - not from Mass- was told this by two of them. The person then looks up the reference (or the tweet in this case) and, in the case of a tweet, most of the time cannot see it. Unfortunately, and stupidly, SM did not have a private setting and hers was open for all to see. Then PSU sets the attack dogs on the author/poster/tweeter etc., in this case SM.
PSU is VERY powerful and quite defensive at this point. I wish they had worked this hard to get Sandusky before they began worrying about NCAA penalties and possible Cleary Act violations. SM was stupid, got caught and punished. I also note that other team members - including a captain - egged her on - so there were a number of players who showed poor judgment. I expect they all have learned a good lesson in this.
Give it a rest, it is done (love how that was followed by another attack above). Please note there's no apology for the behavior here so stop with the BC apologist crap. She was insensitive to the victims and stupid about the privacy setting. She had no chance against the PSU behemoth. She was punished. Give it a rest, it is done.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWould you rather have them sit out a "game" or pay the millions of dollars in damages to the impacted families?
Or are you saying BC (or the player) should have made some sort of financial arrangement instead of not playing?
Just another sign of the Nancy Grace-ing of America where the slightest "verbal" misstep condemns an individual to a perpetual "bad person" purgatory.
So sad that so many adults have forgotten that a 20 year old brain is still not completely wired to understand the connection between actions and consequence. Even worse are the perfect parents in here with perfect children who when tossed a softball question under the spectre of glowing parental approval and adulation provide the perfect answer that the kid knows the parents are expecting. Furthermore that these parents are stupid enough to think that this same kid will most likely be out on the town that very doing navel shots and coyote ugly karaoke while trashed on Jagermeister.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo. What I am saying is that what she did is so far down on a scale that compares her ill-advised comment vs. the actual mortal sins/crimes of child abuse, rape, and murder.
Just another sign of the Nancy Grace-ing of America where the slightest "verbal" misstep condemns an individual to a perpetual "bad person" purgatory.
So sad that so many adults have forgotten that a 20 year old brain is still not completely wired to understand the connection between actions and consequence. Even worse are the perfect parents in here with perfect children who when tossed a softball question under the spectre of glowing parental approval and adulation provide the perfect answer that the kid knows the parents are expecting. Furthermore that these parents are stupid enough to think that this same kid will most likely be out on the town that very doing navel shots and coyote ugly karaoke while trashed on Jagermeister.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt's really not any more hyperbolic than a kid getting in some trouble (frenetically publicized but ultimately not worthy of even a small case scarlet letter) and a bunch of posters, and especially the ones like noted above who allegedly quoted her daughter and make damning, character-assassination statements about what she may have said on a youth soccer field, using the incident as open hunting season to ridicule and try to really damage a young woman who is still a teenager, who obviously is very accomplished athletically and academically, and who could be any our daughters (if we were so lucky). Some of you have been abusive, actually beyond abusive, and the saddest thing is that you seem to have not a clue about that at all. And before the stupid retorts come in, let me note that I wrote many posts on this thread countering those who thought there should be no suspension and who minimized the mistake. Enough really is enough. Some of you want blood, like you would feel happy to see a kid hurt themselves (or worse) over something like this.
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An apology from her mouth as opposed to the canned response from the BC Athletic department would have been nice.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDoesn't anyone in here find it to be slightly pathetic that Sandusky and the Catholic church didn't even get suspended for one "game" for actually diddling children with impunity for over 30 years yet a soccer player who pokes fun at Penn State (well deserved) gets punished immediately? Of course what she did was stupid but we have lost all sense of proportion in this country. But that isn't surprising in a country where 30% of the population believes that a receptionist at an abortion clinic "deserves" to be murdered.
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