u12G blue spring predictions

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WU trains on all those dumpy fields

word has it that Stars West will be in Lancaster in the fall and back to AIC in the spring.

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DAVID- enough is enough.

Don't know who David is but his post is spot on. With EM gone, VG is absolutely proving why he shouldn't be allowed to coach. have you ever watched him berate his players, it is very ugly. Losing ODP and regional players won't make things any better. His emails are pretty desperate.

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WU trains on all those dumpy fields

Then most of the SW players will be used to those fields.

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Don't know who David is but his post is spot on. With EM gone, VG is absolutely proving why he shouldn't be allowed to coach. have you ever watched him berate his players, it is very ugly. Losing ODP and regional players won't make things any better. His emails are pretty desperate.

if you have these desperate emails then post them...you are obviously just a FOH

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Don't know who David is but his post is spot on. With EM gone, VG is absolutely proving why he shouldn't be allowed to coach. have you ever watched him berate his players, it is very ugly. Losing ODP and regional players won't make things any better. His emails are pretty desperate.

How can any of you FOH post anything about VG when you all were recruited by two unhappy backstabbers , manager H & Kr, you brokje up teams because you could not go find a new coach to blame for your kids lack of development by yourselves. you needed to bring along people that you will blame later. how can someone be a team manager responsible for helping a club get better be working for there one reason, there own kid. good luck to all of you. we will see how this will work out. oh, we know. with them backstabbing all you stars west parents.just look at the players chosen for the "a" team or should we say "h" team. FOH

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Let people make their own choices!

I am constantly amazed by these posts. Let parents be parents, kids be kids, and allow the teams to develop based on what the parents and kids think is best. Ranting and raving about losing a player or player movement does no one any good! Focus on your own team, and leave others alone, or let the performance on the pitch speak for itself. We lost a few awesome kids from our team this year to what they felt was a better opportunity. Can't say we won't miss them (great kids and families) but what are you going to do? The club they went to is bigger, has a history of quality teams, and contrary to what has been said here, the coach is well respected by many very knowledgeable soccer people! If you lose players to another team either move on yourself, or help make your own club the best it can be.

DA

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How can any of you FOH post anything about VG when you all were recruited by two unhappy backstabbers , manager H & Kr, you brokje up teams because you could not go find a new coach to blame for your kids lack of development by yourselves. you needed to bring along people that you will blame later. how can someone be a team manager responsible for helping a club get better be working for there one reason, there own kid. good luck to all of you. we will see how this will work out. oh, we know. with them backstabbing all you stars west parents.just look at the players chosen for the "a" team or should we say "h" team. FOH

i think you are one of those mad parents whose daughter will never be on an a team period and are looking for other people to blame it on!

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i think you are one of those mad parents whose daughter will never be on an a team period and are looking for other people to blame it on!

there is something about lavner that makes him attract phsyco parents.. Goodness you are worse the the U15's parents ever were.gat8

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The Pioneer Philosophy: primitive style of coaching (scream and belittle players) and style of play (win at all costs, physical play before skill, and forego development to attain the wins) has finally caught up with them. Western overextended itself and paid the ultimate price. TM seemed burned out this year, and was trying to coach too many teams. The U!2 coaches from this past season just weren't dynamic enough or talented enough and this allowed the players and parents to become disjointed and to look elsewhere for training.

The bottom line is...players/parents wouldn't have been looking elsewhere if the Pioneers or Western were doing their jobs. Instead of defending these clubs, take an honest look at WHY players are leaving. People can't be lured away if they are happy where they are. Its as simple as that. You can say its all the parents fault, but be honest, EM was a terrible coach who wasted the talent he had and the WU coaches are just not good enough to coach the calliber of player they were handed.

If this was town soccer with volunteer coaches and minimal fees, then you might have a gripe but since parents pay THOUSANDS, they should get better than what the PIoneers and WU have offered this age group.

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The Pioneer Philosophy: primitive style of coaching (scream and belittle players) and style of play (win at all costs, physical play before skill, and forego development to attain the wins) has finally caught up with them. Western overextended itself and paid the ultimate price. TM seemed burned out this year, and was trying to coach too many teams. The U!2 coaches from this past season just weren't dynamic enough or talented enough and this allowed the players and parents to become disjointed and to look elsewhere for training.

The bottom line is...players/parents wouldn't have been looking elsewhere if the Pioneers or Western were doing their jobs. Instead of defending these clubs, take an honest look at WHY players are leaving. People can't be lured away if they are happy where they are. Its as simple as that. You can say its all the parents fault, but be honest, EM was a terrible coach who wasted the talent he had and the WU coaches are just not good enough to coach the calliber of player they were handed.

If this was town soccer with volunteer coaches and minimal fees, then you might have a gripe but since parents pay THOUSANDS, they should get better than what the PIoneers and WU have offered this age group.

Good job FOH. blame EM, the coach who showed you all your kids loyalty. The two people you followed could not even show basic respect for the other families and children they pretended to be freinds with. Yes you can leave, but have some class. This is classic addition by subtraction.

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The Pioneer Philosophy: primitive style of coaching (scream and belittle players) and style of play (win at all costs, physical play before skill, and forego development to attain the wins) has finally caught up with them. Western overextended itself and paid the ultimate price. TM seemed burned out this year, and was trying to coach too many teams. The U!2 coaches from this past season just weren't dynamic enough or talented enough and this allowed the players and parents to become disjointed and to look elsewhere for training.

The bottom line is...players/parents wouldn't have been looking elsewhere if the Pioneers or Western were doing their jobs. Instead of defending these clubs, take an honest look at WHY players are leaving. People can't be lured away if they are happy where they are. Its as simple as that. You can say its all the parents fault, but be honest, EM was a terrible coach who wasted the talent he had and the WU coaches are just not good enough to coach the calliber of player they were handed.

If this was town soccer with volunteer coaches and minimal fees, then you might have a gripe but since parents pay THOUSANDS, they should get better than what the PIoneers and WU have offered this age group.

Of course they would have looked elsewhere, no coach or team will ever be good enough for this group of parents. Pioneers, FC Mass and WU weren't good enough what makes you think anything less than a State Cup will be good enough and if that happens then the real Stars will poach their best players setting off another firestorm,

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In response to winning

Correct me if I am wrong. We were told that if the team my child was on did not win we would get knocked out and would not have a spot in maple. Is it true that if the team does not place well by winning they will lose their spot in maple?

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Correct me if I am wrong. We were told that if the team my child was on did not win we would get knocked out and would not have a spot in maple. Is it true that if the team does not place well by winning they will lose their spot in maple?

Maybe that use to be the case at U14 and above, but with NEP now I think the formerly very staunch and strict relegation MAPLE days are over.

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Correct me if I am wrong. We were told that if the team my child was on did not win we would get knocked out and would not have a spot in maple. Is it true that if the team does not place well by winning they will lose their spot in maple?

If you're in Div 3, yes. Div1 goes down to Div2, Div2 to Div3 and Div3 to MASC.

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The Pioneer Philosophy: primitive style of coaching (scream and belittle players) and style of play (win at all costs, physical play before skill, and forego development to attain the wins) has finally caught up with them. Western overextended itself and paid the ultimate price. TM seemed burned out this year, and was trying to coach too many teams. The U!2 coaches from this past season just weren't dynamic enough or talented enough and this allowed the players and parents to become disjointed and to look elsewhere for training.

The bottom line is...players/parents wouldn't have been looking elsewhere if the Pioneers or Western were doing their jobs. Instead of defending these clubs, take an honest look at WHY players are leaving. People can't be lured away if they are happy where they are. Its as simple as that. You can say its all the parents fault, but be honest, EM was a terrible coach who wasted the talent he had and the WU coaches are just not good enough to coach the calliber of player they were handed.

If this was town soccer with volunteer coaches and minimal fees, then you might have a gripe but since parents pay THOUSANDS, they should get better than what the PIoneers and WU have offered this age group.

While the demise of the Pioneers and Western is unfortunate, it was destined to happen one way or another. Parents have been looking for an out for quite some time. Stars West gave them one. Wins and losses had become more important than the players themselves. Hopefully, Stars West provides a training environment that is positive and enriching for the players. That wasn't happening in Ludlow.