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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    My question is what happened to DD, one of the best MA players around. Not on the roster.
    I don't know what is going on but here's my theory:

    Year 1
    DD comes highly touted out of MA and plays a lot for NU during their record breaking year. DA does all the heavy lifting on the goal side. DD ends the year with no goals, but being a freshman and with the afterglow of a great season, he gets a pass.

    Year 2
    DD and several others stare at the long shadow of DA. Together they must match his season. They don't. DD gets 2 goals. No pass this time. At the postseason conference, DD is familiarized with the new forwards coming in and his new role as depth player or some other position. At this point he has several choices:
    1)Take the diminished role, keep the scholarship, and hope for a second chance.
    2)Move somewhere else for a fresh start.

    The fact that he is not on the roster says two things.
    1)He's taking option 2 above
    2)Since he does not appear to be playing elsewhere like the SDSU kid, he will likely transfer to a local team and must therefore sit out a year.

    He will want to be in his new location by second semester for the spring season. We should hear soon. Just my theory.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      You are "foreign" because you don't have a kid in the game at D1. Go back to the D3/HS thread.

      DAP bashers just cant stop, even when DAP is over
      Listen mr or mrs can't see the trees right in front of you...College coaches have to win or they lose their jobs ..It is good for parents to see what is happening down the road before they make a commitment to DAP when the kids are 14...NE and Hartford are using a different dynamic in trying to win....I quite frankly am surprised at the number of kids from out of country that are being used...some of these kids are national team members and that is not something to sneeze at...It is not personal against DAP it is just a change ..If parents are looking for scholarships down the road in choosing DAP they may be surprised that the ten scholarships given are to kids on the Jamician national team. My kids did just fine in D 1 and D 2 thank you.

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        2011 D1 Boys Playing

        So let's see how the seniors are doing:

        Name/Team/Games/GP/GS/G/A

        Homeo Morais/UML/4/4/4/2/0

        Fabio Machado/PC/4/4/4/0/3

        Cole DeNormandie/BC/4/4/4/0/1

        Matt Keys/UMass/4/4/4/0/0

        Thomas Ballenthin/PC/4/4/4/0/0

        Andrew Buttersworth/SH/3/3/3/0/0

        Felipe Fagundez/Drexel/3/2/2/0/0

        Not many left but those who are seem to be key players on their teams. GL to all.

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          2011 D1 Boys Playing

          So let's see how the seniors are doing:

          Name/Team/Games/GP/GS/G/A

          Homero Morais/UML/4/4/4/2/0

          Fabio Machado/PC/4/4/4/0/3

          Cole DeNormandie/BC/4/4/4/0/1

          Matt Keys/UMass/4/4/4/0/0

          Thomas Ballenthin/PC/4/4/4/0/0

          Andrew Buttersworth/SH/3/3/3/0/0

          Felipe Fagundez/Drexel/3/2/2/0/0

          Not many left but those who are seem to be key players on their teams. GL to all.
          Spelling correction*

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            2011 D1 Boys Playing

            So let's see how the seniors did. For many, this will be the end of their careers. Congrats to them. All of the players I'm following easily started >50% of their games. All the rest have faded away.

            Name/Team/Games/GP/GS/G/A

            Fabio Machado/PC/15/15/15/4/7
            Thomas Ballenthin/PC/15/15/15/0/0
            Andrew Buttersworth/SH/17/17/16/0/0
            Matt Keys/UMass/17/16/16/2/0
            Felipe Fagundez/Drexel/18/17/17/0/1
            Homero Morais/UML/17/17/14/4/2
            Cole DeNormandie/BC/16/15/?/3/1

            Most are wrapping up their season this week. PC players should have a postseason ahead. Congrats to all these players on their fine careers.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              So let's see how the seniors did. For many, this will be the end of their careers. Congrats to them. All of the players I'm following easily started >50% of their games. All the rest have faded away.

              Name/Team/Games/GP/GS/G/A

              Fabio Machado/PC/15/15/15/4/7
              Thomas Ballenthin/PC/15/15/15/0/0
              Andrew Buttersworth/SH/17/17/16/0/0
              Matt Keys/UMass/17/16/16/2/0
              Felipe Fagundez/Drexel/18/17/17/0/1
              Homero Morais/UML/17/17/14/4/2
              Cole DeNormandie/BC/16/15/?/3/1

              Most are wrapping up their season this week. PC players should have a postseason ahead. Congrats to all these players on their fine careers.
              Apologies if it is already in this thread somewhere, but how many were in the starting class? If it's anything over ten (which I'm sure it is) it's sad and very enlightening to see so few finishing out their senior years

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Apologies if it is already in this thread somewhere, but how many were in the starting class? If it's anything over ten (which I'm sure it is) it's sad and very enlightening to see so few finishing out their senior years
                OP here, an excellent question. This began as a small class. Taking out the 2010 players, they started with 14 players going into Freshman year. They dropped 50% down to 7 (with some sad tales along the way), with 2 of the 7 still playing having transferred. The more recent classes have many more going in, highlighted by the 2013 class with 51 D1 players. They are already seeing large numbers not rostered by Sophomore year (check that thread). It will be interesting to see where they end up, as with the 2011 class. One of my observations after doing this for 5 years is about 10 kids/year in MA really end up playing in D1, and less than a handful play for teams that make the NCAA tournament. 2011 class fits that mold.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  OP here, an excellent question. This began as a small class. Taking out the 2010 players, they started with 14 players going into Freshman year. They dropped 50% down to 7 (with some sad tales along the way), with 2 of the 7 still playing having transferred. The more recent classes have many more going in, highlighted by the 2013 class with 51 D1 players. They are already seeing large numbers not rostered by Sophomore year (check that thread). It will be interesting to see where they end up, as with the 2011 class. One of my observations after doing this for 5 years is about 10 kids/year in MA really end up playing in D1, and less than a handful play for teams that make the NCAA tournament. 2011 class fits that mold.
                  How did the big # of D3 players from HS Class of 2011 (well over 100) fare over the 4 years? My guess is that ultimately less than 50% played all 4 years in college (% could be even lower). Nothing to base this on other than pure gut feel given that the D3 players didn't have any athletic aid tugging at them to stay playing even if they weren't getting much playing time.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    How did the big # of D3 players from HS Class of 2011 (well over 100) fare over the 4 years? My guess is that ultimately less than 50% played all 4 years in college (% could be even lower). Nothing to base this on other than pure gut feel given that the D3 players didn't have any athletic aid tugging at them to stay playing even if they weren't getting much playing time.
                    Yeah, D3 is a beast to handle. You might have noticed I've finished the D1's. I'm trying to decide if and when I can try the D3's. Not today.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      OP here, an excellent question. This began as a small class. Taking out the 2010 players, they started with 14 players going into Freshman year. They dropped 50% down to 7 (with some sad tales along the way), with 2 of the 7 still playing having transferred. The more recent classes have many more going in, highlighted by the 2013 class with 51 D1 players. They are already seeing large numbers not rostered by Sophomore year (check that thread). It will be interesting to see where they end up, as with the 2011 class. One of my observations after doing this for 5 years is about 10 kids/year in MA really end up playing in D1, and less than a handful play for teams that make the NCAA tournament. 2011 class fits that mold.
                      Ok thank you very much. All of this has been great. I have one looking at schools now. I'm trying to help keep him realistic. Some of the coaches are very smooth talkers.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Yeah, D3 is a beast to handle. You might have noticed I've finished the D1's. I'm trying to decide if and when I can try the D3's. Not today.
                        Thanks....would definitely be interested in D3 NESCAC and UAA players since those D3 conferences seem to be held out on these forums as top D3 Conferences and would be interesting to see the %'s for those players to help guide the current HS players still in the college choice recruiting stage.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Ok thank you very much. All of this has been great. I have one looking at schools now. I'm trying to help keep him realistic. Some of the coaches are very smooth talkers.
                          OP here. The reason I do this is not for the college parents to see their kid's name on the list. It is for folks like you, providing information to aid in your decision process. Hopefully it helps.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            How did the big # of D3 players from HS Class of 2011 (well over 100) fare over the 4 years? My guess is that ultimately less than 50% played all 4 years in college (% could be even lower). Nothing to base this on other than pure gut feel given that the D3 players didn't have any athletic aid tugging at them to stay playing even if they weren't getting much playing time.
                            Good question since there are different dynamics at play. 1) yes there is some athletic money but certainly not all D1 players get it and it varies widely on substance. 2) playing D3, while still demanding, isn't as demanding as D1. Combine 1+2 - if it isn't so much a "job" for you and you aren't getting "paid" but you're still having fun doing it then you'd be more likely to stick it out. 3) different player talent pool means a better chance of being a big fish in a small pond. Also makes for a more positive experience. 4)in theory with D3 more players are choosing academics first, soccer second. I have to believe that gives a player a different mind set going into it.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              OP here. The reason I do this is not for the college parents to see their kid's name on the list. It is for folks like you, providing information to aid in your decision process. Hopefully it helps.
                              Super helpful. thanks for putting the time in

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                How did the big # of D3 players from HS Class of 2011 (well over 100) fare over the 4 years? My guess is that ultimately less than 50% played all 4 years in college (% could be even lower). Nothing to base this on other than pure gut feel given that the D3 players didn't have any athletic aid tugging at them to stay playing even if they weren't getting much playing time.
                                Don't have time to go through the whole list either. But based upon the type of schools you expressed interest in, there are a number of notable 2011s who have enjoyed good to very good 4 year D3 experiences. Several at Brandeis, at Tufts, at Wheaton, couple at Rochester, couple at Kenyon, a few at Conn College, several at Colby, a few at Bates, a few at Wesleyan, couple at Trinity, etc, etc. More than a handful will be featuring prominently in the D3 NCAA tournament about to begin shortly.

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