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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    As new evidence against Trump shows up on an almost daily basis, the more I think the Dems did the right thing. They were the ones with the most to lose. It may hurt them in 2020, but it was the right thing to do in the long run.

    Independent voter
    You really think so. Where was the evidence. One whistleblower, who was anonymous. The Ukraine govt said they weren’t pressured. All you have is one phone call that sounds like a normal conversation a president have at any time. As a matter of fact, Biden is on tape saying fire her or no aid. Who who benefit from her being fired. His kid for one. How would it benefit the country to fire her. I am still waiting to be explained that to understand Biden’s motive. You find nothing fishy about hunter Biden’s contract? Do you think he was qualified and that why he got the no show board seat?

    Also, what about the investigation and tapping of trumps campaign. All done because of the Steele dossier. A report paid to a foreign govt by the Democratic Party for the benefit of Their chosen candidate for president. The intent was to influence voters and therefore therefore tamper with the 2016 election. How is that any different?

    Please. You aren’t independent! Those charges were skeptical at best and the process to impeach was rushed. Why didn’t the house spend more time gathering evidence and interviewing witnesses? Isn’t that their job? They didn’t do a good job and now want to blame the senate. Why? Because it is partisan politics and they wanted this to impact the state of the union. Nancy delayed sending the articles of impeachment. Why? Because it was partisan politics. Trying to influence the 2020 election.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      As new evidence against Trump shows up on an almost daily basis, the more I think the Dems did the right thing. They were the ones with the most to lose. It may hurt them in 2020, but it was the right thing to do in the long run.

      Independent voter
      what evidence?- the dems are showing up with news reports from anonymous sources, thats not evidence
      passages from books? not evidence
      the house presented their case -IT WAS GARBAGE- then they begged to request more witnesses from the Senate-THE SENATE SAID NO
      the vote on witnesses in the Senate is not a guarantee- thats why they have to vote to allow them- If the senate always wanted witnesses they would have made it mandatory-IT ISNT
      in a true court there wouldnt have been witnesses either- the case would have been dismissed on the first day
      i get it- you feel let down again, BLAME ADAM, he should have listened to Pelosi-she knew this was a wet bag of turds

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        what evidence?- the dems are showing up with news reports from anonymous sources, thats not evidence
        passages from books? not evidence
        the house presented their case -IT WAS GARBAGE- then they begged to request more witnesses from the Senate-THE SENATE SAID NO
        the vote on witnesses in the Senate is not a guarantee- thats why they have to vote to allow them- If the senate always wanted witnesses they would have made it mandatory-IT ISNT
        in a true court there wouldnt have been witnesses either- the case would have been dismissed on the first day
        i get it- you feel let down again, BLAME ADAM, he should have listened to Pelosi-she knew this was a wet bag of turds
        This is what happens when democrats run your state

        https://nypost.com/2020/02/01/suspec...-new-bail-law/

        Disband ICE and neuter police, now you let the "non violent" offenders back on the street while they await trial.

        Vote Trump!

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          As new evidence against Trump shows up on an almost daily basis, the more I think the Dems did the right thing. They were the ones with the most to lose. It may hurt them in 2020, but it was the right thing to do in the long run.

          Independent voter
          You clearly lean left if you think it was the right thing to do. Here are some perspectives and questions to think about.

          1). Why was Bolton’s “boomshell” news released to the NYTs a day before the vote on witnesses? The timing was controlled by dems not by Bolton. Expect something else to come out on Tuesday.
          2). Why didn’t the dems push for Bolton earlier? They needed to rush this through to maximize political impact over the holidays. they have been playing politics all along.
          3). Most importantly, all of it doesn’t matter. Trump has every right to ask a foreign leader for an investigation weather its his political opponent or not. That is not interference, it is not even asking for dirt. It’s asking for an investigation. The results of the investigation might have cleared Hunter. The esteemed liberal lawyer Dershowitz nailed it.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You clearly lean left if you think it was the right thing to do. Here are some perspectives and questions to think about.

            1). Why was Bolton’s “boomshell” news released to the NYTs a day before the vote on witnesses? The timing was controlled by dems not by Bolton. Expect something else to come out on Tuesday.
            2). Why didn’t the dems push for Bolton earlier? They needed to rush this through to maximize political impact over the holidays. they have been playing politics all along.
            3). Most importantly, all of it doesn’t matter. Trump has every right to ask a foreign leader for an investigation weather its his political opponent or not. That is not interference, it is not even asking for dirt. It’s asking for an investigation. The results of the investigation might have cleared Hunter. The esteemed liberal lawyer Dershowitz nailed it.
            We shall see how Iowa plays out. If Bernie momentum is real, then we are in trouble. The only thing he has over Trump is he is a socialist. That scares the hell out of me to tell you the truth. I don't agree with what Hillary did to Bernie leading up to 2016, but it was best for the party. She should have won, but Trump campaigned better. Hillary got lazy and complacent and it will cost us years now. Environmentally, fiscally, judicially, you name it, Trump has set us back.and we have no one to blame except Hillary, and maybe Obama to the extent he could have helped her more. I would sit the 2020 presidential election out rather than vote for Bernie and empower the socialist movement led by AOC. If her proxy Bernie won, she might even be VP, who knows. Rather hope we flip the senate and keep Trump in a box for 4 years then vote Bernie

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              We shall see how Iowa plays out. If Bernie momentum is real, then we are in trouble. The only thing he has over Trump is he is a socialist. That scares the hell out of me to tell you the truth. I don't agree with what Hillary did to Bernie leading up to 2016, but it was best for the party. She should have won, but Trump campaigned better. Hillary got lazy and complacent and it will cost us years now. Environmentally, fiscally, judicially, you name it, Trump has set us back.and we have no one to blame except Hillary, and maybe Obama to the extent he could have helped her more. I would sit the 2020 presidential election out rather than vote for Bernie and empower the socialist movement led by AOC. If her proxy Bernie won, she might even be VP, who knows. Rather hope we flip the senate and keep Trump in a box for 4 years then vote Bernie
              Bernie will get your nomination- the DNC may F him again they will at least try-thats what nancy's delay was designed to do
              your problem comes when dems have to support his platform( which will destroy the US for at least a generation if not longer)
              but thats the test- will you intentionally damage the country for power? we shall see

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You clearly lean left if you think it was the right thing to do. Here are some perspectives and questions to think about.

                1). Why was Bolton’s “boomshell” news released to the NYTs a day before the vote on witnesses? The timing was controlled by dems not by Bolton. Expect something else to come out on Tuesday.
                2). Why didn’t the dems push for Bolton earlier? They needed to rush this through to maximize political impact over the holidays. they have been playing politics all along.
                3). Most importantly, all of it doesn’t matter. Trump has every right to ask a foreign leader for an investigation weather its his political opponent or not. That is not interference, it is not even asking for dirt. It’s asking for an investigation. The results of the investigation might have cleared Hunter. The esteemed liberal lawyer Dershowitz nailed it.
                1) Because it was a "leak"? You can't plan for that.
                2) They did; Trump told him not to show up. Taking the issue to court would have taken months. He was also very unpredictable, but the book shows he has critical information. The GOP punted.
                3) You couldn't be more off base. It's an abuse of power because it only benefited Trump. There are multiple diplomatic and legal channels to get an investigation of the Bidens if he wanted - and he had over two years to do so. He only started his antics AFTER Biden announced he was running. He only did it secretly, without involving the DOJ or CIA or anyone else except his inner circle. He did not inform Congress about the hold. It also tells the world that behind closed doors leaders can trade tit for tat favors with Trump to get what they want, favors that may not be in our best interests but only Trump's

                Argue all you want con. If a Dem had done the same thing you cons would be flipping the phuk out, calling for their head on a platter.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  We shall see how Iowa plays out. If Bernie momentum is real, then we are in trouble. The only thing he has over Trump is he is a socialist. That scares the hell out of me to tell you the truth. I don't agree with what Hillary did to Bernie leading up to 2016, but it was best for the party. She should have won, but Trump campaigned better. Hillary got lazy and complacent and it will cost us years now. Environmentally, fiscally, judicially, you name it, Trump has set us back.and we have no one to blame except Hillary, and maybe Obama to the extent he could have helped her more. I would sit the 2020 presidential election out rather than vote for Bernie and empower the socialist movement led by AOC. If her proxy Bernie won, she might even be VP, who knows. Rather hope we flip the senate and keep Trump in a box for 4 years then vote Bernie
                  I think that's why the DNC is changing the debate rules to get Bloomberg on the next debate stage. Bernie and Warren are not electable in a general, they're just not. They're too left for the moderates the DNC needs to beat Trump/flip the Senate. They both have personal baggage. Joe is too old and too tainted thanks to Trump. Pete is just too young and gay (it matters to plenty of voters).

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I think that's why the DNC is changing the debate rules to get Bloomberg on the next debate stage. Bernie and Warren are not electable in a general, they're just not. They're too left for the moderates the DNC needs to beat Trump/flip the Senate. They both have personal baggage. Joe is too old and too tainted thanks to Trump. Pete is just too young and gay (it matters to plenty of voters).
                    Too gay....well truthfully, his gayness does bother me, but I would vote for him if he actually some relevant experience. Uber driver for an officer in Afgan doesn't count. His small city is a racist one under him. He even fired the first African American police chief. His policies hurt African Americans in South Bend. Condemned black buildings at a higher rate then white ones. A black in South bend had a 4X more likelihood of being arrested for pot.
                    He supports everyone elses ideas, ie Green New Deal. He has none for himself.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      1) Because it was a "leak"? You can't plan for that.
                      2) They did; Trump told him not to show up. Taking the issue to court would have taken months. He was also very unpredictable, but the book shows he has critical information. The GOP punted.
                      3) You couldn't be more off base. It's an abuse of power because it only benefited Trump. There are multiple diplomatic and legal channels to get an investigation of the Bidens if he wanted - and he had over two years to do so. He only started his antics AFTER Biden announced he was running. He only did it secretly, without involving the DOJ or CIA or anyone else except his inner circle. He did not inform Congress about the hold. It also tells the world that behind closed doors leaders can trade tit for tat favors with Trump to get what they want, favors that may not be in our best interests but only Trump's

                      Argue all you want con. If a Dem had done the same thing you cons would be flipping the phuk out, calling for their head on a platter.
                      Look what is happening in London, Paris, Barcelona....it is just the start. Crazed Muslims stabbing random people or running them down with cars. I dont want that to be the US. Keep them Muslims out. Trump is right, he sees the handwriting on the wall.

                      PS...Mayor Pete is a Muslim too.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        1) Because it was a "leak"? You can't plan for that.
                        2) They did; Trump told him not to show up. Taking the issue to court would have taken months. He was also very unpredictable, but the book shows he has critical information. The GOP punted.
                        3) You couldn't be more off base. It's an abuse of power because it only benefited Trump. There are multiple diplomatic and legal channels to get an investigation of the Bidens if he wanted - and he had over two years to do so. He only started his antics AFTER Biden announced he was running. He only did it secretly, without involving the DOJ or CIA or anyone else except his inner circle. He did not inform Congress about the hold. It also tells the world that behind closed doors leaders can trade tit for tat favors with Trump to get what they want, favors that may not be in our best interests but only Trump's

                        Argue all you want con. If a Dem had done the same thing you cons would be flipping the phuk out, calling for their head on a platter.
                        you can certainly plan a leak- Boltons publisher did just that and you swallowed- the book doesnt "show" anything- they baited you
                        #2the GOP didnt punt-they got in the Victory formation and knelt on the ball- you didn't bring a good case and they let you know about it. there are channels to override privilege you chose not to take them- nancy sat on the articles for a month you should have used that time in court
                        #3 how did it only benefit Trump? it didnt happen
                        but now Biden will be investigated right here in the US-it should have been done by Obamas admin but again they led from behind
                        all presidents make deals behind closed doors- and Burisma was a cash cow- notice how many prominent dem children were connected to it- Kerry, Pelosi,Biden etc...
                        thats not interesting to you?

                        the dems did do it, and all that seems to come out of every Trump problem is the Fd up stuff the DEMS have done

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Trump's myth that his campaign was illegally spied on has been debunked, by the special investigator his own DOJ hired :) . Since it doesn't support the narrative, what are the odds Trump and the GOP deep 6 it?
                          Funnier still is they claimed his campaign wasnspiednin, but his digging up sirt in Joe Biden is somehow ok

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Look what is happening in London, Paris, Barcelona....it is just the start. Crazed Muslims stabbing random people or running them down with cars. I dont want that to be the US. Keep them Muslims out. Trump is right, he sees the handwriting on the wall.

                            PS...Mayor Pete is a Muslim too.
                            Another lame attempt at distraction. Mayor Pete is so white bread he could be in a Norman Rockwell painting

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Another lame attempt at distraction. Mayor Pete is so white bread he could be in a Norman Rockwell painting
                              His family is from Malta. Spoke Arabic. I guess that is white 🥖 these days.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Look what is happening in London, Paris, Barcelona....it is just the start. Crazed Muslims stabbing random people or running them down with cars. I dont want that to be the US. Keep them Muslims out. Trump is right, he sees the handwriting on the wall.

                                PS...Mayor Pete is a Muslim too.
                                His full name is mayor Pete buttplug

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