Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

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tRUMP is Guilty

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Well when the prosecution has no facts to present what facts do you expect from the defense?
Trump released the call 4 months ago- that’s the only fact that matters
And the house managers didn’t say anything about it in their 24 hours- they spent their time telling you what Trump was thinking- that’s not evidence or facts that’s innuendo and projection

Pray tell ... how many facts were put out today by the Repugs? Zero --- so time for some witnesses -- nothing to hide about a perfect phone call so what is the harm ?

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Pray tell ... how many facts were put out today by the Repugs? Zero --- so time for some witnesses -- nothing to hide about a perfect phone call so what is the harm ?

If Trump had the witnesses and documents to prove his innocence they would slam it in the table like some big Hollywood drama. He could not only unequivocally prove his innocence but destroy the Democrats, crush them.

But, they won't because they have NOTHING.

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If Trump had the witnesses and documents to prove his innocence they would slam it in the table like some big Hollywood drama. He could not only unequivocally prove his innocence but destroy the Democrats, crush them.

But, they won't because they have NOTHING.

What you are missing is that it is not trump’s responsibility. The burden of proof is on the democrats as they brought the charges. Trump was impeached due to partisanship. That is a final outcome. Now in congress, the senate has to prove trump committed the crimes the house sent them and dole out punishment. Problem is, no one believes there was a crime. Heck, if Clinton can be proven to have perjured himself, and obstructed others by having them lie for him, but he wasn’t found guilty, then you should know the democrats have nothing because they don’t have the smoking gun of perjury. They have their interpretation of calls and inference as the smoking gun. The Ukraine leader has said there was no quid pro quo and he did not feel pressured. No crime if the party supposedly harmed says there was no harm and no crime.

Democrats should be embarrassed and will regret their precedent setting sham impeachment

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Pray tell ... how many facts were put out today by the Repugs? Zero --- so time for some witnesses -- nothing to hide about a perfect phone call so what is the harm ?

the actual phone call- thats the only fact that matters and trump put it out

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If Trump had the witnesses and documents to prove his innocence they would slam it in the table like some big Hollywood drama. He could not only unequivocally prove his innocence but destroy the Democrats, crush them.

But, they won't because they have NOTHING.

comerade, In the USA you dont prove innocence, you prove guilt


monty Python salem witch trials

(throw her in the pond if she floats she is a witch if she sinks she isnt)

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the actual phone call- thats the only fact that matters and trump put it out

No he did not.... he put out a "summary" of the transcript ... not they actual transcript nor the actual recording .... (a bit like Barr Barr Black sheep's summary of the Mueller investigation).. so why not the original? (Hint: the word Biden appears to have been deleted from the original.... so not such a perfect call).
That is the trouble that tRUMP has with his lying (and your willingness to accept BS)... nobody ever believes him anymore.

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No he did not.... he put out a "summary" of the transcript ... not they actual transcript nor the actual recording .... (a bit like Barr Barr Black sheep's summary of the Mueller investigation).. so why not the original? (Hint: the word Biden appears to have been deleted from the original.... so not such a perfect call).
That is the trouble that tRUMP has with his lying (and your willingness to accept BS)... nobody ever believes him anymore.

Lt col Vindman was on the call, wasn't he?
didnt he testify?
did he argue that the transcript was altered or false? NO
he heard the actual call- his testimony is on tape and he testified under Oath that there was nothing impeachable on the actual call, he just felt that it was improper

did mueller argue that Barr misrepresented his report? NO
he argued that Barr didn't elaborate when he released his summary
and Barr released the report

you keep looking for things that never show up- sometimes there is no there there

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What you are missing is that it is not trump’s responsibility. The burden of proof is on the democrats as they brought the charges. Trump was impeached due to partisanship. That is a final outcome. Now in congress, the senate has to prove trump committed the crimes the house sent them and dole out punishment. Problem is, no one believes there was a crime. Heck, if Clinton can be proven to have perjured himself, and obstructed others by having them lie for him, but he wasn’t found guilty, then you should know the democrats have nothing because they don’t have the smoking gun of perjury. They have their interpretation of calls and inference as the smoking gun. The Ukraine leader has said there was no quid pro quo and he did not feel pressured. No crime if the party supposedly harmed says there was no harm and no crime.

Democrats should be embarrassed and will regret their precedent setting sham impeachment

Actually tRUMP's responsibility is to uphold the Constitution ... not to extort foreign powers into electioneering. He is also supposed to be representing the people (and not just himself and his sycophants) and last time there was an election the majority of the people were Democrats ...(despite the imaginary buses to New Hampshire). We are all waiting to hear from him...the speech can be short.... "I resign" would do.... then we could pardon him and let him emigrate to one of those shi.thole countries... I am sure they would be willing to accept an *******.

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Lt col Vindman was on the call, wasn't he?
didnt he testify?
did he argue that the transcript was altered or false? NO
he heard the actual call- his testimony is on tape and he testified under Oath that there was nothing impeachable on the actual call, he just felt that it was improper

did mueller argue that Barr misrepresented his report? NO
he argued that Barr didn't elaborate when he released his summary
and Barr released the report

you keep looking for things that never show up- sometimes there is no there there

Lt col Vindman was on the call, wasn't he? didnt he testify? YES.
Did he say there were omissions ? YES
(as GOP Congressman Perry reported "that at least two portions of the July phone call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky were omitted from the summary of the conversation released by the White House."
So what in your opinion is a justifiable reason for not releasing the actual phone call?

Did Mueller say his report exonerated tRUMP? NO
Did tRUMP say it did? YES
Did Barr say it did? NO

so who is Lying?

Mueller also left it up to Congress to do its job -- which it is doing...its called IMPEACHMENT

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What you are missing is that it is not trump’s responsibility. The burden of proof is on the democrats as they brought the charges. Trump was impeached due to partisanship. That is a final outcome. Now in congress, the senate has to prove trump committed the crimes the house sent them and dole out punishment. Problem is, no one believes there was a crime. Heck, if Clinton can be proven to have perjured himself, and obstructed others by having them lie for him, but he wasn’t found guilty, then you should know the democrats have nothing because they don’t have the smoking gun of perjury. They have their interpretation of calls and inference as the smoking gun. The Ukraine leader has said there was no quid pro quo and he did not feel pressured. No crime if the party supposedly harmed says there was no harm and no crime.

Democrats should be embarrassed and will regret their precedent setting sham impeachment

that excuse is as limp as Trump's mushroom dik.

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comerade, In the USA you dont prove innocence, you prove guilt


monty Python salem witch trials

(throw her in the pond if she floats she is a witch if she sinks she isnt)

The impeachment process isn't a judicial one - even McConnell has said as much. It also doesn't require a crime to have been committed - even Lindsay said that two decades ago but won't dare say it now.

Also, the court of public opinion matters. Thus far Trump and the GOP haven't persuaded anyone of his innocence except his base, who believes he walks on water.

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Actually tRUMP's responsibility is to uphold the Constitution ... not to extort foreign powers into electioneering. He is also supposed to be representing the people (and not just himself and his sycophants) and last time there was an election the majority of the people were Democrats ...(despite the imaginary buses to New Hampshire). We are all waiting to hear from him...the speech can be short.... "I resign" would do.... then we could pardon him and let him emigrate to one of those shi.thole countries... I am sure they would be willing to accept an *******.

that was cute but.... NO-
cant wait for your next suggestion

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The impeachment process isn't a judicial one - even McConnell has said as much. It also doesn't require a crime to have been committed - even Lindsay said that two decades ago but won't dare say it now.

Also, the court of public opinion matters. Thus far Trump and the GOP haven't persuaded anyone of his innocence except his base, who believes he walks on water.

thus far Trumps team hasnt gone- the last 3 days were the house presenting their case- what actual facts did they produce for you? none
they told you what people were thinking, they cherry picked testimony, and they stated innuendo and supposition - but no actual facts of wrongdoing

they also introduced many things that have nothing to do with the actual impeachment- like the Bidens,they produced 2 articles of impeachment, both are vague so they can attribute anything to them on purpose
public opinion does matter and so far the public has shown it doesnt seem to care - the viewing room is empty and the ratings are terrible.
this should be a huge deal but no one is even talking about it in daily life

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Lt col Vindman was on the call, wasn't he? didnt he testify? YES.
Did he say there were omissions ? YES
(as GOP Congressman Perry reported "that at least two portions of the July phone call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky were omitted from the summary of the conversation released by the White House."
So what in your opinion is a justifiable reason for not releasing the actual phone call?

Did Mueller say his report exonerated tRUMP? NO
Did tRUMP say it did? YES
Did Barr say it did? NO

so who is Lying?

Mueller also left it up to Congress to do its job -- which it is doing...its called IMPEACHMENT

things that are classified- Vindmans testimony is public ,did he say that these omissions were materials to the inquiry? NO or the house would have created such an uproar and it would be central to their impeachment articles,yet they didnt even bring up yhe phone call- its a dead end
no other POTUS would have released the Transcript voluntarily

Muellers summaries say what it says- investigators either charge or dont charge- they dont vindicate people they charge people or dont charge people.
Did he charge Trump?NO
Trump believes it vindicates him as he was not charged with anything
nothing in the Mueller report has anything to do with the impeachment- unless of course you are now claiming that the Ukraine interfered with the 2016 election, are you? because Trump has said it did
BYW so did POLITICO

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that excuse is as limp as Trump's mushroom dik.

well then be prepared to have your day ruined by a limp mushroom dik- at least its soft and wont hurt you too badly