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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    They stumbled into the white house because of the EC. Remember the look of shock on his face afterwards (like holy shi* now what?!).

    My take is 1) yes Russia meddled but not directly with the campaign. Putin wanted to make sure HRC lost and DT was a very convenient candidate, but it was more about keeping HRC out than anything else. That said, 2) DT is very vulnerable because of dirt Russia has on Trump (financial). He can do them favors in other ways, like not following through on sanctions that were legally passed by Congress. 3) Firing Comey was obstruction of justice. 4) Trumps tax/financials are dirty 5) A GOP controlled Congress will do nothing about any of it.
    And Russians were killed in Syria the other day by US Forces. Is that the payback to Putin ?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      My narrative has everything to do about what it means to be President and the kind of men and women who should be serving in that Office.


      If Obama did as much, I'd take the same position. Clinton deserved the impeachment he went through as well.
      There's that word again. Based on what criteria?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Who determines that he has to be held to a higher standard? How much higher? Who defines that standard? I don't recall voting on it??

        Lots of moral issues by lots of presidents that have happened while they sat in that chair (literally). Now we are projecting back a decade, and using that as some leverage point for today? Where were you over the last 50 years?

        Some of you brag about how "Kennedy kept it quiet" (while in office), yet are all bound up when Trump paid someone off, i.e. kept it quiet (a decade ago).

        Can't you grasp how hypocritical that is? What's hilarious is I cannot stand Trump, but the more your hypocrisy bleeds out the more I see what his base sees.
        Can't speak for others here, only myself.

        I get to determine that he gets held to a higher standard. I get to define what that standard is as well. That's my right as a citizen with a vote in this nation. You want to cast your vote for someone lacking moral character and personal integrity, that's certainly your right as well.


        I only chose to go back a decade to make a point. You want to go back even further and dig up more dirt? Fine. You'll find the list of people I believe best filled this job to be pretty small, since the job reveals most of the dirt in their lives. Even more so in modern times because of the immediacy of access to and all the sources of information that is out there.

        If they had exposed Kennedy as they have Trump, my criticism of him would be just as loud as it is now.

        Character and integrity have no bounds to time.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          And Russians were killed in Syria the other day by US Forces. Is that the payback to Putin ?
          No. That's not how payback works. That was accidental.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            No. That's not how payback works. That was accidental.
            What episode of 24 or Homeland are you watching ?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              How is firing Comey obstruction of justice?
              Well he helped get DT elected so usually he keeps those types around

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                What episode of 24 or Homeland are you watching ?
                American didn't know there were actual Russians there. If they had, the strike would not have happened.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  My narrative has everything to do about what it means to be President and the kind of men and women who should be serving in that Office.


                  If Obama did as much, I'd take the same position. Clinton deserved the impeachment he went through as well.
                  That's your prerogative. You and Hollywood can vote for personalities. I personally do not look at politicians as my moral or social authorities.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    American didn't know there were actual Russians there. If they had, the strike would not have happened.
                    Are you sure about that? These were Russian mercenaries.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Are you sure about that? These were Russian mercenaries.
                      The US isn't interested in mixing it up with Russia or Turkey in Syria. We'll sell out our own allies to avoid both of those things. We had no idea Russians were in the path of that attack.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        And Russians were killed in Syria the other day by US Forces. Is that the payback to Putin ?
                        Putin could care less about human casualties. Since he controls the media he can spin the deaths anyway he wants, if Russians hear about it at all (Russians have no sense how many have died in Ukraine or the many other places Putin has sent in troops). However Putin does does very much care about geo-politics, money and saving his own hide. Russia's economy is in the shi**ter and his oligarchs aren't happy about being on the sanctions list. He's quite the chess master, playing a long game. Human capital doesn't matter to him.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Are you sure about that? These were Russian mercenaries.
                          Just like the Russians soldiers in Ukraine are "volunteers on their own time?" They're Russian TROOPS, pure and simple. It doesn't sound like the US knew who they were. we blow up our own people all too frequently so we know mistakes are made all the time.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Putin could care less about human casualties. Since he controls the media he can spin the deaths anyway he wants, if Russians hear about it at all (Russians have no sense how many have died in Ukraine or the many other places Putin has sent in troops). However Putin does does very much care about geo-politics, money and saving his own hide. Russia's economy is in the shi**ter and his oligarchs aren't happy about being on the sanctions list. He's quite the chess master, playing a long game. Human capital doesn't matter to him.
                            When is the last time you had a face to face conversation in public with a Russian citizen ?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              When is the last time you had a face to face conversation in public with a Russian citizen ?
                              Christmas party, the week before New Years. I speak a little Russian, too (tourist Russian).

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Christmas party, the week before New Years. I speak a little Russian, too (tourist Russian).
                                How many drinks had the Russian had when you spoke ?

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