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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    None are so blind as those who refuse to see.......

    I never claimed there was only one way to see "Presidential". You said it.

    You can have whatever criteria you choose to define what you believe is Presidential behavior. If you want a President that acts like he lives in the "hood", whatever that means, then support a candidate that does that. All that matters is if it is acceptable to you or not. Your right as an American is to put whatever performance standard you choose to put in place when making your vote.

    But hey, guess what, that's my right too. And yes, I do base a lot of what it means to be Presidential on the behavior of the 44 people who have served in this role prior to Trump. Only a fool disregards history when considering the future. I see no problem holding the current office holder to the standards set by men like Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Jackson, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Carter, Bushes, Clinton, Obama and so on.

    Unfortunately, for him, as far as my support is concerned, Trump fails miserably against the standards set by most of these that came before him. He diminishes our stature as a nation and is a divisive force within the fabric of America. He has insecurities that make him dangerous to the ongoing health of our nation and our people. That's my view at this time and he is going to have to do plenty of work to change it.
    It has been determined he is not acting presidential. We don't know what it is, but we are supposed to agree. Well, I feel the previous administration did not act presidential. I determine that based on previous administrations and how they acted.

    So, again, vote as you wish and use criteria as you wish. But, don't go preaching to us he's not "acting presidential", because nobody can define what that is.

    Lots of people like that he'll act and talk like they do. Just like the previous administration.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Debatable on who he is acting for. But either way, that's a gray area at the minimum...and a slippery slope at worst. Certainly, the previous administration didn't act in the best interest of ALL it's citizens. None would be able to accomplish that



      How do you grade someone on "seriously" and "tirelessly"? Is there goofing off, making prank phone calls in meetings? Nodding off?



      Subjective. Who determines who the "best" candidates and on what criteria? Disdain for the organization...or a willingness to look at them with fresh ideas?




      Is that a requirement? Say, for example, the election turned out differently. Would the Deplorables have a view that would be listened to?




      Seems like South Korea is pretty happy right now. But, if we have a media posting, by far, the most negative stories about someone than any other administration (as has been proven), wouldn't the rest of the world have a negative view? Why should we care? He is the President of the United States of AMERICA, not emperor of the world. He is doing exactly what he said he would do: Put America first. So, of course the rest of the world would be upset by losing their crutch. When they want something, they'll come to us. Always have, always will. He knows it. He knows he's negotiating from a position of power.



      Is that a requirement? Should he count to 5 before responding? 10? 100? How do you define impulse? Were previous administrations impulsive before? Think other presidents have said things they later regretted? Are they all eliminated from "acting presidential" due to this?



      Subjective. Would going on a book tour blaming 84 other people or groups for losing an election be akin to acting like a toddler?
      This stuff is all in the "Laws of the Land" .... anyone should be able to use good judgement to know these answers.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        This stuff is all in the "Laws of the Land" .... anyone should be able to use good judgement to know these answers.
        The phrase law of the land is a legal term, equivalent to the Latin lex terrae, or legem terrae in the accusative case. It refers to all of the laws in force within a country or region, including statute law and case-made law.


        That definition doesn't seem to fit with the ambiguous accusations and declarations made earlier.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The phrase law of the land is a legal term, equivalent to the Latin lex terrae, or legem terrae in the accusative case. It refers to all of the laws in force within a country or region, including statute law and case-made law.


          That definition doesn't seem to fit with the ambiguous accusations and declarations made earlier.
          You know what I got from your response? "Blah, Blah, Blah"

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You know what I got from your response? "Blah, Blah, Blah"
            Speaking of people acting like toddlers.......

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              Classic CNN:
              Last night they show a 30sec clip (out of 55minutes) of Trump answering yes to clean DACA bill followed by pundits laughing at his "stupidity".

              I found that interesting so I had to dig to see if it was true.

              If you watch the whole meeting its clearly not even close to what the headline of the meeting should have been. I don't care what side you're on. It was dishonest.

              Proof of what Trump defined a clean DACA bill as(torward end of clip):
              https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...rder_wall.html

              Proof that CNN is biased in their own reporting, Bash says she will take a hit for speaking her mind on the meeting:
              https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...apable_of.html

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post


                Proof that CNN is biased in their own reporting,
                And FOX isn't?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  And FOX isn't?
                  Fox are the uncontested masters of the art. DT could light the white house on fire wiwth 30 fire companies responding and Fox would be taking about Hillary.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Fox are the uncontested masters of the art. DT could light the white house on fire wiwth 30 fire companies responding and Fox would be taking about Hillary.
                    Fox claims to be fair and balanced, proof:
                    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...ump-media-bias

                    CNN claims to be the most trusted name in news, disproof:
                    The post above and that's just one example.

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                      A lot of Blah Blah . Trumps a D**k and the world knows it , so many dumb arses out there that no longer look at facts anymore, Obama was right . The conservatives have leaned so far right facts no longer is the base for their decision making , It’s become an “ Opionated “Party driven by talk & radio show hosts that “ Claim “ to be news reporters. Fox calls every outlet aside from themselves as “ the Media”.
                      These are some angry people that will divert and distort anything and everything and feed the Trumpsters new slang words ( Fake News, Snowflakes, crooked Hillary , little Marco )
                      This is what Blind Sheep do, follow the call — don’t look —don’t research— just follow the leader and whatever he says — they believe.
                      Trump hates fact reporting when it shows an unfavorable report on him, it’s considered fake news.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Fox claims to be fair and balanced, proof:
                        https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...ump-media-bias

                        CNN claims to be the most trusted name in news, disproof:
                        The post above and that's just one example.
                        CNN loves trump. They all do. he is the best thing to happen to cable news ratings. Nightly news is just out every night patrolling for eye balls. No one wants to watch someone behaving well. Just behaving badly.

                        Maybe oprah can pick a kick ass VP with experience and conviction and skills and then just resign after she wins.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          CNN loves trump. They all do. he is the best thing to happen to cable news ratings. Nightly news is just out every night patrolling for eye balls. No one wants to watch someone behaving well. Just behaving badly.

                          Maybe oprah can pick a kick ass VP with experience and conviction and skills and then just resign after she wins.
                          Oprah - Weinstein, 2020, they love each other.

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                            Like I said it’s a cult. A somewhat undertone type of followers similar to the likes of (David Koresh,Jim Jones) but the agenda is politics not Religion. There’s nothing Trump can do wrong in a Trumpsters mind.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Oprah - Weinstein, 2020, they love each other.
                              No Hilary will beg for the VP spot.

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                                Kim Jong much smarter than Trump. Trump thinks his Twitter threats got NK to the table after 2 years but the fact is they left the table for 2 years because of Trump.
                                Trumps threat to NK began on his campaign back in 2015 ...NK being smart stepped up to the plate with a few tests and as soon as Trump took office in 2017 NK did the most testing of missiles ever , they knew Trump wouldn’t go to war in his first months and Trump Didn’t want to either.
                                NK now won’t talk to the US because they will look weak but speaking to SK is a brillant idea from Kim , he knows SK has the most to lose if war breaks out and SK also being home for 10,000 US troops, so SK says there’s talks so we listen..
                                The US now holds off — Twitter man tweets a bragging rhetoric—all US threats or military exercises are on hold .. Expect Kim to drag his feet for another 3-4 years which will give NK more time to develop a Nuclear device.
                                But Now would be the best time for Trump to go at them put since he’s so dumb— he wants to pat himself on the back and take credit for the chump change talks.

                                Today I heard him take credit for the African American low unemployment rate ,it was 10.6% when Obama took office and dropped to 4.9% when he was leaving office, now it’s 4.6% and he’s selling that to the American people as if he dropped a major figure in just one year.

                                And again Today I heard he’s not gonna change the Iran deal that Obama made. This was supposedly so bad of a deal that every Republican was gonna scrap it once Trump took the helm but so far in the year he , the senate and house has renewed it once and quietly this looks like he’s continuing everything Obama put in place. In fact there’s discussion it’ll become permanent law “ yup the deal Obama made will be permanent and signed by Trump” but it’s sooo bad he’s gonna sign it anyway. Probably he’ll sign it with Love the same day he does DACA.

                                What else did he do today ?? Ah yes he bashed Feinstein for releasing the Dossier closed door hearing transcripts — yup the ones the Republicans ( graham and Grassley) were covering up for us not to know. All that garbage the Republicans have been spreading to the American people about the dossier is NOT true and maybe just maybe that’s why they didn’t want this stuff released.

                                What will Tomorrow bring? Who knows but Trump is getting cornered and desperate.


                                Trumps the biggest Con Artist that we will ever see. The guy is the Professor of Bull.

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