Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

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I bet some whirlpool exec made a big donation. Meanwhile his solar panel ban will cost 22,000 jobs for installers, salespeople etc. Who else contributed to Trump's campaign? Big oil.

What this solar tariff means for American consumers

A tariff is simply a tax on imports or exports. There are two types of tariffs, those which are calculated as a fixed percentage on the item and those that are calculated as a fixed dollar amount.

Trump’s tariff imposes a 30% tax on imported panels in year 1, which is actually preferable to a fixed dollar amount if you’re thinking about going solar. Because the tariff is percentage-based, its actual impact on prices will shrink each year as the price of imported solar panels continues to fall.

Due to advances in solar manufacturing, the cost of solar panels has fallen by between 2% and 6% per year for the past several years. In China, South Korea, and other countries that dominate solar panel manufacturing, falling costs and technological advances won’t slow down simply because there is a U.S. tariff – and in fact, the tariff may give them an incentive to decrease costs faster.

The end result is that the percentage-based tariff, which is already set to fall each year, will be even smaller because it will be applied to ever-decreasing module costs. An example of this trend is illustrated below, where the dollar amounts shown are in dollars per watt of solar energy.

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Ha, are you really saying the Whirlpool CEO bought Trump for $10,000? Please

The opposite, $ 10,000 would not have bought favorable treatment. He was on Trumps panel that studied the matter.

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Really? There are a couple really weak points to your arguments here.

1) You think Trump, a multibillionaire, is being bought for campaign donations? That's the one thing (out of all previous president's) you can rest assured he can care less about. If fact that was one of his appeals, that he cant be bought unlike the other Washington insiders. In addition, Hilary spent $620M, while Trump spent less than half $310M and still won.

2) You really think the oil industry is worried about solar power? The oil industry can sneeze and buy every solar manufacturer in the world and you wouldn't see a blip in their stock price. Its such a small percentage of the overall power production. In fact many oil companies have done just that as a hedge.

What Trump did is help domestic solar manufacturers by going after Chinese companies that were dumping their products below cost.

Solar, wind and other renewables are the future. We are quickly running out of oil. Oil companies are ringing the world dry. They fight renewables at every turn

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Solar, wind and other renewables are the future. We are quickly running out of oil. Oil companies are ringing the world dry. They fight renewables at every turn

I remember hearing that at 4 AM in the early 1970's , as I looked for a green flag and got ready to wait on line for 3 hours for 5 gallons.

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Here's what i do know----The Connecticut Talking soccer Thread has attracted one - three Trumpsters ----you guys have taken over our soccer thread with the Trump rhetoric 24/7, The majority of the state is Liberal and the Trumpsters posting here are 100% Trolls all of the time. The Trumpsters are not from this state and posting from either Mass, NY or Florida these are the only other states that have Political postings and neither are current to the minute as with the rhetoric on the CT is -- it has some here believing the Trump followers are stronger than it seems.
For us sensible people we may have been caught up with this shenanigans believing we have hard core Trumpster soccer parents (FAKE) ....For all that are against Trumps policies Please do not post in reply to these flame throwing Troller's.

LETS SHUT IT DOWN BY NOT REPLYING AND MOVE ON WITH OUR SOCCER DISCUSSIONS FOR THE SPRING.

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Ha, are you really saying the Whirlpool CEO bought Trump for $10,000? Please

Yes. May also have made big donor phone calls for him, hosted a fundraiser. Politics isn't just about outright donations. Probably plays golf with him too.

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Tariff estimated impact on solar costs over time

Year 1 Year 2 (Est.) Year 3 (Est.) Year 4 (Est.)
Module prices (low) $0.33 $0.32 $0.30 $0.29
Module prices (high) $0.40 $0.38 $0.36 $0.34
Tariff percentage 30% 25% 20% 15%
Tariff impact (per watt, low) $0.10 $0.08 $0.06 $0.04
Tariff impact (per watt, high) $0.12 $0.10 $0.07 $0.05
Tariff impact (for a 6 kW system, low) $600 $480 $360 $240
Tariff impact (for a 6 kW system, high) $720 $600 $420 $300

Market experts estimate that the impact of the tariff in year 1 will be between $0.10 to $0.12 per watt. For a typical American homeowner, that represents only a 3% to 4% increase in the cost of a solar panel installation. (This corresponds to a recent analysis conducted by Greentech Media.)

By year 4, the tariff’s impact falls to only $0.04 to $0.05 per watt, which results in less than a 2% increase in installation costs. It is worth mentioning here that leading solar manufacturing countries like China, Taiwan and South Korea can simply reduce their export prices faster, and render obsolete any impact of the solar tariff.

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Solar, wind and other renewables are the future. We are quickly running out of oil. Oil companies are ringing the world dry. They fight renewables at every turn

Trump with one stroke of the pen made evry american solar manufacturer more profitable
Obama spent millions on solyndra and lost it all ($$$$,jobs, market share)
Who do you think does most of the r&d for renewables? Hint big oil

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Yes. May also have made big donor phone calls for him, hosted a fundraiser. Politics isn't just about outright donations. Probably plays golf with him too.

Do yourself a favor and look at obamas bundlers or the clinton foundation donors up until election day
Then you might get a sense of how desperate you sound

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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi doubled down on her claim that a $1,000 bonus is just “crumbs” for middle-class Americans.
“There’s a little mouse trap who’s got a little piece of cheese on there and there’s a mouse about to take it and that’s called the middle class,” Pelosi said of workers getting bonuses as a result of the GOP tax cuts. “And around it are fat cats, they look a lot like elephants but anyway, around there. And that’s the thing. Get this little thing and we get this big bonanza. You get the crumb, we get the banquet.”
Pelosi made the comments during a recent town hall on tax reform, proving just how out of touch she is with struggling Americans.

Pelosi previously blasted the bonuses as “crumbs” earlier in January, insisting that they are “pathetic” gifts that mean little to workers. (RELATED: ‘Crumbs’ — Pelosi Dismisses Workers’ ‘Pathetic’ Tax Reform Bonuses)

“In terms of the bonus that corporate America receives versus the crumbs they are giving to workers to put the schmooze on is so pathetic,” she said during a House speech on January 11.

Fellow Democrat Debbie Wasserman Schultz has echoed Pelosi’s rhetoric, insisting that $1,000 doesn’t “go far” for anyone.




“Frankly, if you look at the bonuses, which I haven’t heard of a corporate bonus more than $1,000 so far. Which by the way is taxed, so it’s not $1,000. And then you spread $1,000 over the course of the year — to think of about how much that is — of course they get it all at once. But I’m not sure that $1,000 (which is taxed, taxable) goes very for almost anyone,” Schultz claimed.

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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi doubled down on her claim that a $1,000 bonus is just “crumbs” for middle-class Americans.
“There’s a little mouse trap who’s got a little piece of cheese on there and there’s a mouse about to take it and that’s called the middle class,” Pelosi said of workers getting bonuses as a result of the GOP tax cuts. “And around it are fat cats, they look a lot like elephants but anyway, around there. And that’s the thing. Get this little thing and we get this big bonanza. You get the crumb, we get the banquet.”
Pelosi made the comments during a recent town hall on tax reform, proving just how out of touch she is with struggling Americans.

Pelosi previously blasted the bonuses as “crumbs” earlier in January, insisting that they are “pathetic” gifts that mean little to workers. (RELATED: ‘Crumbs’ — Pelosi Dismisses Workers’ ‘Pathetic’ Tax Reform Bonuses)

“In terms of the bonus that corporate America receives versus the crumbs they are giving to workers to put the schmooze on is so pathetic,” she said during a House speech on January 11.

Fellow Democrat Debbie Wasserman Schultz has echoed Pelosi’s rhetoric, insisting that $1,000 doesn’t “go far” for anyone.




“Frankly, if you look at the bonuses, which I haven’t heard of a corporate bonus more than $1,000 so far. Which by the way is taxed, so it’s not $1,000. And then you spread $1,000 over the course of the year — to think of about how much that is — of course they get it all at once. But I’m not sure that $1,000 (which is taxed, taxable) goes very for almost anyone,” Schultz claimed.

yet dems havent produced it those crumbs in the last 8 years and i dont know anyone who is walking away from a 1K gift- if nancy of blabbermouth schultz( that one should be in jail for actually undermining democracy) finds someone who doesnt want it , send it my way

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Yes. May also have made big donor phone calls for him, hosted a fundraiser. Politics isn't just about outright donations. Probably plays golf with him too.

how do you go from may have and probably to yes with no more information- and then bitch about all the Clinton scandals with their
pretty damm sures and most likely

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yet dems havent produced it those crumbs in the last 8 years and i dont know anyone who is walking away from a 1K gift- if nancy of blabbermouth schultz( that one should be in jail for actually undermining democracy) finds someone who doesnt want it , send it my way

The irony. Taxin' Nancy mentions it's taxed. Yep, it was. Gov't took $350 out of it...

When there was a they gave us back a few bucks per check, she touted it like it was a dream. Now, I'm handed a check, and she mocks it.

So disconnected. Companies are just giving $2, $3, $400,000,000 back to employees, and still she whines.

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Here's what i do know----The Connecticut Talking soccer Thread has attracted one - three Trumpsters ----you guys have taken over our soccer thread with the Trump rhetoric 24/7, The majority of the state is Liberal and the Trumpsters posting here are 100% Trolls all of the time. The Trumpsters are not from this state and posting from either Mass, NY or Florida these are the only other states that have Political postings and neither are current to the minute as with the rhetoric on the CT is -- it has some here believing the Trump followers are stronger than it seems.
For us sensible people we may have been caught up with this shenanigans believing we have hard core Trumpster soccer parents (FAKE) ....For all that are against Trumps policies Please do not post in reply to these flame thrower Troller's.

LETS SHUT IT DOWN BY NOT REPLYING AND MOVE ON WITH OUR SOCCER DISCUSSIONS FOR THE SPRING.

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you arent a dying breed, theres plenty of YOU out there- most reps dont care about Gay marriage but they do care about traditional marriage, they understand the grey areas in the Abortion issue they just dont like 3rd and partials and dont want their tax dollars paying for it
and most of all they dont want the Govt dictating what and what you cant do with your personal business
BTW you have always been lumped into the " youre all racist" category by the left along with the "you hate old people, immigrants,all gay people,all mentally ill people,poor people,drug addicts,convicts"catagory. nothings changed its just louder,but the lefts playbook hasnt changed since Reagan

And you lump the Progressives, Liberals, Snowflakes and whatever other label you like to employ in describing those you believe on the other side just as superficially. Your "side", spent six years grinding the government to a standstill because they didn't support President Obama's agenda. They spent many hours casting labels and lumping everyone they feel to the left of them into some bucket.

Both side of these debates are about blaming more than examining problems and finding solutions. Name calling and shouting out the opinion of the other side seems to be in vogue today.

Common courtesy replaced by blind loyalty to ideology.....both sides.

A generation, maybe two now, that don't understand how American government is supposed to work, because they haven't had enough civics in their education and the people in office now make up about the poorest set of role models I've seen in my many years on this earth.