The end of the ECNL/Thorns debate

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With the rollout of the 2020-21 fee structure for Thorns the Ecnl/thorns debate is officially over.

Both pathways are pay to play for the wealthy and upper middle class only.
Both pathways will help the most elite players connect with top programs outside of Oregon.
Both programs will roster average players who spend thousands of dollars on soccer only to end up committed at D3 and NAIA schools.
Players will hop from program to program when they don’t get identified as the superstar they and their parents think they are.
Both programs will use that hopping to take credit for each other’s commits.
Smart families of elite players will recognize they don’t need to buy into the hype and sacrifice time and money, and their kids will still end up at a school that is a good fit with an excellent program.
A bunch of the same old Oregon coaches will continue to make a very comfortable living selling their promises to hopeful families.

Ecnl, you are what you always promised to be and no one can fault that. A pay to play program for priviliged kids whose parents would rather fly to Arizona for games than drive to Medford. You have delivered exactly what you promised.

Thorns - what a letdown. You said you’d be different. You said you’d only take the top players and rostered girls cut from high school teams. You said you’d end the pay to play aspect of soccer and are charging $8000/year - the same or more than Ecnl and OYSA teams cost. You said you’d follow GDA philosophy and rules and yet you are just another club team. You had a chance to change Oregon girls soccer forever. And you failed.

Nearly all teenage Girls across this country love playing recreational HS Soccer, be it with a Frosh, JV2, JV or even their Varsity side. This is why an elite best of the best no HS allowed DA level is so limited to the number of players and clubs that could ever commit to this platform since it involves giving up recreational HS activities.

Playing with your local club and having a season of HS Soccer works for 99% of the girls in the nation. Let the elite future WC stars play in a DA setting and the SOP for decades of girls playing in a local neighborhood club & HS continues to thrive and be a great option.

Girls in states just don't go pro in Soccer and as we all know they don't make any real living wage chasing a 'pro' deal. Title IX has created so many opportunities for girls in the activity of college soccer that there are even local clubs that cater to a travel, combine/showcase model as a way of matching the supply with the demand.

Calling anything about this reality a 'debate' is disingenuous to the term debate. If a girl is world class level, she is in the top shelf of talent in the USA for example she will be involved with US Soccer National Teams and the DA. The rest of the girls are happy playing in HS and local clubs.

The 'we must travel mantra or spin' peddled by clubs is quite sticky and really just a reaction to title ix funding for girls soccer. Take it or leave it. Outcomes for college are the same.

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Nearly all teenage Girls across this country love playing recreational HS Soccer, be it with a Frosh, JV2, JV or even their Varsity side. This is why an elite best of the best no HS allowed DA level is so limited to the number of players and clubs that could ever commit to this platform since it involves giving up recreational HS activities.

Playing with your local club and having a season of HS Soccer works for 99% of the girls in the nation. Let the elite future WC stars play in a DA setting and the SOP for decades of girls playing in a local neighborhood club & HS continues to thrive and be a great option.

Girls in states just don't go pro in Soccer and as we all know they don't make any real living wage chasing a 'pro' deal. Title IX has created so many opportunities for girls in the activity of college soccer that there are even local clubs that cater to a travel, combine/showcase model as a way of matching the supply with the demand.

Calling anything about this reality a 'debate' is disingenuous to the term debate. If a girl is world class level, she is in the top shelf of talent in the USA for example she will be involved with US Soccer National Teams and the DA. The rest of the girls are happy playing in HS and local clubs.

The 'we must travel mantra or spin' peddled by clubs is quite sticky and really just a reaction to title ix funding for girls soccer. Take it or leave it. Outcomes for college are the same.

OYSA coach or jealous parent of a slow fat girl spotted.

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The GDA is going to be third tier in Oregon.

Have you seen some of their teams? More like fourth tier.

Getting shelled 0-8 is embarrassing because most 0-8 games could’ve been 0-20 or worse.

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OYSA coach or jealous parent of a slow fat girl spotted.

Truly terrible human being spotted. Don't you have some bragging to do about your Thorns player's NAIA commit?