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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Because the mark of a great youth Soccer club is quarter/semi finals rather than developing young people and being good role models. Laughable comment
    LOL

    I've witnessed parents get mad and pull their kids off teams because they couldn't handle the development plan. Yet, it works in Bolivia and with U.S. players who develop using Tahuichi training. Don't forget futsal as a key component of development.

    If Cony had his way, no kid would pay for development and play. He always preaches about being good citizens and the Usonian way.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Because the mark of a great youth Soccer club is quarter/semi finals rather than developing young people and being good role models. Laughable comment
      No your comment is laughable, if you think that winning and "being good role models" are mutually exclusive.

      And your comment is preposterous if you think that WT is neglecting character development in favor of quick and easy wins. If anything, the peanut gallery here is full of parents who were displeased with the club's old-school approach, and left. I generally assume that any youth club is teaching the fundamental values necessary for success in sports--teamwork and cooperation, hard work and perseverance--and I have yet to meet a coach that doesn't also focus on things like good sportsmanship, honesty, and respect (respect for authority figures, respect for teammates, self-respect, and respect for the game).

      I can think of a few coaches (at other clubs) that don't always set good examples on the sidelines. I can think of quite a few coaches (far too many, sadly) that tolerate toxic parents, especially if their child is a star. But I can't think of any that encourage cheating, dirty play, or other outrageous behavior on the part of players.

      (And to head off the obvious retort about "selfish" 11-year-olds who dribble more than pass--WT's coaching philosophy is to focus on ball mastery over tactics, generally up through U12; with a more tactical approach to the game being introduced as players move into middle and high school. Chances are the kid who is trying to beat defenders one-on-one in a U12 game rather than passing it to his open winger, is doing exactly what he was told to do by the coach. Anyone who conflates a legitimate and time-honored training methodology with vacuous moral arguments about "bad character", as we often see coming from parents at other clubs who pronounce a child delinquent because he holds onto the ball too long, is a tool).

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        $2,200 for isolated technique training so one day I can join Ringling Brothers Circus!

        What if the most ‘fundamental’ skill of a footballer was real-time data processing and not isolated technique work.....Hmm..🤔Traditional training sessions at $2,2000/year with an accent might be obselete
        What are you on about?

        Can’t see more than 10% of SCA’s training sessions being used in isolated practices. You obviously haven’t checked them out yet which is fine. But cut the BS 👊

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          No your comment is laughable, if you think that winning and "being good role models" are mutually exclusive.

          And your comment is preposterous if you think that WT is neglecting character development in favor of quick and easy wins. If anything, the peanut gallery here is full of parents who were displeased with the club's old-school approach, and left. I generally assume that any youth club is teaching the fundamental values necessary for success in sports--teamwork and cooperation, hard work and perseverance--and I have yet to meet a coach that doesn't also focus on things like good sportsmanship, honesty, and respect (respect for authority figures, respect for teammates, self-respect, and respect for the game).

          I can think of a few coaches (at other clubs) that don't always set good examples on the sidelines. I can think of quite a few coaches (far too many, sadly) that tolerate toxic parents, especially if their child is a star. But I can't think of any that encourage cheating, dirty play, or other outrageous behavior on the part of players.

          (And to head off the obvious retort about "selfish" 11-year-olds who dribble more than pass--WT's coaching philosophy is to focus on ball mastery over tactics, generally up through U12; with a more tactical approach to the game being introduced as players move into middle and high school. Chances are the kid who is trying to beat defenders one-on-one in a U12 game rather than passing it to his open winger, is doing exactly what he was told to do by the coach. Anyone who conflates a legitimate and time-honored training methodology with vacuous moral arguments about "bad character", as we often see coming from parents at other clubs who pronounce a child delinquent because he holds onto the ball too long, is a tool).

          What a waste of time to post this, you can do better.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Yes. Organized and enthusiastically ran.

            There’s more to running a club than setting up a bunch of equipment. SCA is no different than clubs that latch on to a badge with a so called philosophy.


            SCA=GPS 2.0
            sorry, no you have not witnessed any....

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              sorry, no you have not witnessed any....
              In general, any claim that Coach A's training sessions are better than Coach B's, ought to be taken with a grain of salt, especially without specifics.

              How to teach kids to play soccer isn't rocket science, and it isn't a secret. OTOH, there's plenty of disagreement as to what to emphasize when. Some clubs, teams, and coaches take a long view. Others try to wow parents and win trophies as soon as possible, and will happily fill the heads of naive parents of all sorts of woo about what soccer practice "should" look like, so that when said naive parent sees it being done differently elsewhere, he thinks he's clever for believing what the first coach told him.

              Unfortunately, fair evaluation teams and clubs needs to happen over the long haul, and not be based on videos of training posted to the web or to social media.

              This does put new clubs at a disadvantage, and may encourage them to get early result by going after top talent at other clubs--a practice which ticks off the established clubs.

              Will the SCA approach work? Who knows.

              Is the suggestion that SCA's coaching staff are all superior to the alleged dinosaurs at the existing clubs tenable? Not without firm evidence, which will take a while--and it grossly misrepresents the state of coaching at the existing clubs.

              But again, a lot of success in soccer is recruiting, not in training--you can't make silk purses out of sows' ears. But given that--how much does coaching matter?

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                No your comment is laughable, if you think that winning and "being good role models" are mutually exclusive.

                And your comment is preposterous if you think that WT is neglecting character development in favor of quick and easy wins. If anything, the peanut gallery here is full of parents who were displeased with the club's old-school approach, and left. I generally assume that any youth club is teaching the fundamental values necessary for success in sports--teamwork and cooperation, hard work and perseverance--and I have yet to meet a coach that doesn't also focus on things like good sportsmanship, honesty, and respect (respect for authority figures, respect for teammates, self-respect, and respect for the game).

                I can think of a few coaches (at other clubs) that don't always set good examples on the sidelines. I can think of quite a few coaches (far too many, sadly) that tolerate toxic parents, especially if their child is a star. But I can't think of any that encourage cheating, dirty play, or other outrageous behavior on the part of players.

                (And to head off the obvious retort about "selfish" 11-year-olds who dribble more than pass--WT's coaching philosophy is to focus on ball mastery over tactics, generally up through U12; with a more tactical approach to the game being introduced as players move into middle and high school. Chances are the kid who is trying to beat defenders one-on-one in a U12 game rather than passing it to his open winger, is doing exactly what he was told to do by the coach. Anyone who conflates a legitimate and time-honored training methodology with vacuous moral arguments about "bad character", as we often see coming from parents at other clubs who pronounce a child delinquent because he holds onto the ball too long, is a tool).
                This!

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                  Send it mate!

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    No your comment is laughable, if you think that winning and "being good role models" are mutually exclusive.

                    And your comment is preposterous if you think that WT is neglecting character development in favor of quick and easy wins. If anything, the peanut gallery here is full of parents who were displeased with the club's old-school approach, and left. I generally assume that any youth club is teaching the fundamental values necessary for success in sports--teamwork and cooperation, hard work and perseverance--and I have yet to meet a coach that doesn't also focus on things like good sportsmanship, honesty, and respect (respect for authority figures, respect for teammates, self-respect, and respect for the game).

                    I can think of a few coaches (at other clubs) that don't always set good examples on the sidelines. I can think of quite a few coaches (far too many, sadly) that tolerate toxic parents, especially if their child is a star. But I can't think of any that encourage cheating, dirty play, or other outrageous behavior on the part of players.

                    (And to head off the obvious retort about "selfish" 11-year-olds who dribble more than pass--WT's coaching philosophy is to focus on ball mastery over tactics, generally up through U12; with a more tactical approach to the game being introduced as players move into middle and high school. Chances are the kid who is trying to beat defenders one-on-one in a U12 game rather than passing it to his open winger, is doing exactly what he was told to do by the coach. Anyone who conflates a legitimate and time-honored training methodology with vacuous moral arguments about "bad character", as we often see coming from parents at other clubs who pronounce a child delinquent because he holds onto the ball too long, is a tool).
                    Clash results are rolling in. Westside 6, SCA (IFC Purple Huracan Benefica) 2.

                    07 boys super division

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Clash results are rolling in. Westside 6, SCA (IFC Purple Huracan Benefica) 2.

                      07 boys super division
                      Actually 6 to 1, Westside

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Actually 6 to 1, Westside
                        Were “Purple Huracan” in SCA kits with IFC patches?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Actually 6 to 1, Westside
                          Did they mix up the girls and boys?

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                            I don't know the answers to all of these burning questions, I just saw the result on the tournament website. But I can't imagine a Westside parent would mind stepping up and filling us all in.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I don't know the answers to all of these burning questions, I just saw the result on the tournament website. But I can't imagine a Westside parent would mind stepping up and filling us all in.
                              The result is expected. Recruiting players from everywhere and expecting results is dumb. These muppets are building kids for the circus not clash at the border.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I don't know the answers to all of these burning questions, I just saw the result on the tournament website. But I can't imagine a Westside parent would mind stepping up and filling us all in.
                                At Westside. Not an 07 parent, so cannot speak to this game.

                                But SE is one of the best young coaches in Oregon; if anyone can resurrect the 07 team from the ashes after a whole bunch of kids left last year, it's him.

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