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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThere are many who wish your team well. I am one from an oysa club team. I am saddened by the joy many others get from trying to stop your team from playing year after year. All because they want their own team to not have to compete against yours and lose. Without the best teams, any victories are hollow. Integrity would want to be the best by beating the best, not by simply excluding the best. This goes for all of oysa as well as gda/da and ecnl. Oregon should rise above and our top teams from all three leagues should be playing each other multiple times and supporting each other. Until then, Oregon soccer will remain mediocre and our talented, hard working players won’t develop to their full potential.
In your team’s case, your girls are living the Nike dare to dream and they all have impactful college essay material about taking the path less travelled and surviving despite all the road blocks and exclusion. Good luck to your players and all the players in Oregon!
I think the issue is that SCA keeps telling families that they are definitely OYSA...first it was that they were going to be a full member and then it changed to partnering with a non-profit club. OYSA has confirmed that SCA is not an oysa member and that for profit clubs cannot partner with nonprofit clubs. Things are just not adding up.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTrying to stop them year after year?? SCA is a new club and hasn’t even played any games yet. How do you know they will be one of the best? Maybe they will, maybe they won’t.
I think the issue is that SCA keeps telling families that they are definitely OYSA...first it was that they were going to be a full member and then it changed to partnering with a non-profit club. OYSA has confirmed that SCA is not an oysa member and that for profit clubs cannot partner with nonprofit clubs. Things are just not adding up.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTheir aim and motive hasn't changed, Monetize the cheapest sport in the world to play. What a novel concept. Turn it into a business of selling nothing and getting paid in Oregon. Brillant.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMy unsolicited advise: if you have signed up for SCA, don’t pay the full tuition upfront. Select monthly installments. Good luck!
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Ok so I hope this clears this up once and for all as this is a thread that appears to be on repeat.
1. SCA Is not a member of OYSA.
2. SCA Is not officially partnering with a club to play OYSA.
3. SCA Teams will train x3 days a week and play scrimmages/tournaments (US Club cards)
4. SCA Players will play for a OYSA club separate from SCA this year. Meaning these players will be registered players with this club and not SCA for league entry.
All of the above meets the OYSA conditions. Will SCA do this long term? Unlikely as it dilutes their brand. Will OYSA let them into the league or officially partner with a club long term? Unlikely, too much pressure from big established club who feel threatened by this small club.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe directors have openly said that this year will be oy training and scrimmages. They said they will apply the following year to play in leagues.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOk so I hope this clears this up once and for all as this is a thread that appears to be on repeat.
1. SCA Is not a member of OYSA.
2. SCA Is not officially partnering with a club to play OYSA.
3. SCA Teams will train x3 days a week and play scrimmages/tournaments (US Club cards)
4. SCA Players will play for a OYSA club separate from SCA this year. Meaning these players will be registered players with this club and not SCA for league entry.
All of the above meets the OYSA conditions. Will SCA do this long term? Unlikely as it dilutes their brand. Will OYSA let them into the league or officially partner with a club long term? Unlikely, too much pressure from big established club who feel threatened by this small club.
(I'm sorry, but every time I hear the acronym "SCA", I think about college kids getting drunk off their ass and staging sword fights in the woods with weapons and armor made of cardboard and tinfoil)
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOk so I hope this clears this up once and for all as this is a thread that appears to be on repeat.
1. SCA Is not a member of OYSA.
2. SCA Is not officially partnering with a club to play OYSA.
3. SCA Teams will train x3 days a week and play scrimmages/tournaments (US Club cards)
4. SCA Players will play for a OYSA club separate from SCA this year. Meaning these players will be registered players with this club and not SCA for league entry.
All of the above meets the OYSA conditions. Will SCA do this long term? Unlikely as it dilutes their brand. Will OYSA let them into the league or officially partner with a club long term? Unlikely, too much pressure from big established club who feel threatened by this small club.
Big clubs are pushing on: (i) club standards in general (has more to do with how teams are placed initially), (ii) clarity on recruiting and player transfers and (iii) Timbers relationship (at least some).
Maybe that is influencing the way OYSA is looking at new applicants, but I don't think it can be understated how much of a headache startup clubs can be for OYSA, especially after some of them started with big promises and end without paying their bills.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOk so I hope this clears this up once and for all as this is a thread that appears to be on repeat.
1. SCA Is not a member of OYSA.
2. SCA Is not officially partnering with a club to play OYSA.
3. SCA Teams will train x3 days a week and play scrimmages/tournaments (US Club cards)
4. SCA Players will play for a OYSA club separate from SCA this year. Meaning these players will be registered players with this club and not SCA for league entry.
All of the above meets the OYSA conditions. Will SCA do this long term? Unlikely as it dilutes their brand. Will OYSA let them into the league or officially partner with a club long term? Unlikely, too much pressure from big established club who feel threatened by this small club.
Full SCA dues and full club dues and all other associated costs?
Is this how it is set up in England where SCA has had success? As a training academy with no teams?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo I'm assuming that SCA dues are in addition to the dues for the OYSA club? Is there a formal agreement with a particular club (one that meets OYSA's requirements) for SCA kids to play and be registered with that club... or is this essentially a personal-training business that is separate from any club, and kids who want to play in a state league have to sign up for a club AND for SCA?
(I'm sorry, but every time I hear the acronym "SCA", I think about college kids getting drunk off their ass and staging sword fights in the woods with weapons and armor made of cardboard and tinfoil)
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThere is an agreement between them (didn't use that acronym for you :) ) and a club yes. Haven't seen it so couldn't tell you. I assume so otherwise the whole thing would be pointless if it didn't satisfy OYSA requirements.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo a kid trains 3x at SCA, 2x at club and plays 1-2 games per week?
Full SCA dues and full club dues and all other associated costs?
Is this how it is set up in England where SCA has had success? As a training academy with no teams?
2. Not sure on this.
3. No - Obviously the OYSA issue has proven to be an obstacle. So no.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo the million dollar question that SCA seems to be avoiding...what club will the kids play in the league with? Funny how on their website it says transparency is one of the club values or something like that.
LOL. It's OYSA soccer people not Champions League !
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