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**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 01:48 AM

So, it appears no OYSA (Oregon or SW Washington) teams will make it to nationals. FCP 00B got to the semis, but no further. Most of the finalists are from NV, CA-S, and AZ on the boys side, with CO and UT well-represented on the girls side. Two Seattle teams (one boys, one girls) are in the regional finals.

The interesting demographic compare for Oregon is probably Utah. Both states have similar populations (3M for the Beehive State, 4M for Oregon). Both states have one major dominant metro. And both states have similar Latino populations (about 700k). Both states have a top-level NBA team, an MLS team, but that's it for pro sports. But Utah seems to have better youth soccer overall. Certainly Real Salt Lake has one of the top development academies, and the Timbers have been lagging in this regard.

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

So, it appears no OYSA (Oregon or SW Washington) teams will make it to nationals. FCP 00B got to the semis, but no further. Most of the finalists are from NV, CA-S, and AZ on the boys side, with CO and UT well-represented on the girls side. Two Seattle teams (one boys, one girls) are in the regional finals.

The interesting demographic compare for Oregon is probably Utah. Both states have similar populations (3M for the Beehive State, 4M for Oregon). Both states have one major dominant metro. And both states have similar Latino populations (about 700k). Both states have a top-level NBA team, an MLS team, but that's it for pro sports. But Utah seems to have better youth soccer overall. Certainly Real Salt Lake has one of the top development academies, and the Timbers have been lagging in this regard.

We have 30% more people & are soccer crazed. Why can't we do as well as Utah?

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

So, it appears no OYSA (Oregon or SW Washington) teams will make it to nationals. FCP 00B got to the semis, but no further. Most of the finalists are from NV, CA-S, and AZ on the boys side, with CO and UT well-represented on the girls side. Two Seattle teams (one boys, one girls) are in the regional finals.

The interesting demographic compare for Oregon is probably Utah. Both states have similar populations (3M for the Beehive State, 4M for Oregon). Both states have one major dominant metro. And both states have similar Latino populations (about 700k). Both states have a top-level NBA team, an MLS team, but that's it for pro sports. But Utah seems to have better youth soccer overall. Certainly Real Salt Lake has one of the top development academies, and the Timbers have been lagging in this regard.

Some close games, being eliminated by 1 goal. Not bad.

Congrats to all.

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

So, it appears no OYSA (Oregon or SW Washington) teams will make it to nationals. FCP 00B got to the semis, but no further. Most of the finalists are from NV, CA-S, and AZ on the boys side, with CO and UT well-represented on the girls side. Two Seattle teams (one boys, one girls) are in the regional finals.

The interesting demographic compare for Oregon is probably Utah. Both states have similar populations (3M for the Beehive State, 4M for Oregon). Both states have one major dominant metro. And both states have similar Latino populations (about 700k). Both states have a top-level NBA team, an MLS team, but that's it for pro sports. But Utah seems to have better youth soccer overall. Certainly Real Salt Lake has one of the top development academies, and the Timbers have been lagging in this regard.

The reality is we're no where near the same number of youth players as Utah, Colorado, or Washington. Each of those states has 3-4x as many players as we do. Soccer crazed or not, it's a numbers game. We're doing about as well as we're supposed to statistically.

http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/media_kit/keystatistics/

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

We have 30% more people & are soccer crazed. Why can't we do as well as Utah?

Politics and $$$$$- those in charge of club soccer can't seem to play in the same sandbox without throwing it and then you have the Timbers that are more concerned with making money (Billups) than they are developing the truly talented players in the area. If it was truly about development we would not have so many different clubs and the timbers would have a curriculum being taught by all clubs all the way down to the PDP level

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Politics and $$$$$- those in charge of club soccer can't seem to play in the same sandbox without throwing it and then you have the Timbers that are more concerned with making money (Billups) than they are developing the truly talented players in the area. If it was truly about development we would not have so many different clubs and the timbers would have a curriculum being taught by all clubs all the way down to the PDP level

Or, it's simply a numbers advantage enjoyed by the other states. They have the same fragmented system of many clubs that we do, they just have a larger pool to pull from.

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

So, it appears no OYSA (Oregon or SW Washington) teams will make it to nationals. FCP 00B got to the semis, but no further. Most of the finalists are from NV, CA-S, and AZ on the boys side, with CO and UT well-represented on the girls side. Two Seattle teams (one boys, one girls) are in the regional finals.

The interesting demographic compare for Oregon is probably Utah. Both states have similar populations (3M for the Beehive State, 4M for Oregon). Both states have one major dominant metro. And both states have similar Latino populations (about 700k). Both states have a top-level NBA team, an MLS team, but that's it for pro sports. But Utah seems to have better youth soccer overall. Certainly Real Salt Lake has one of the top development academies, and the Timbers have been lagging in this regard.

Big difference is that Utah doesn't have their MLS club running youth soccer. Timbers involvement is HURTING youth soccer in Oregon, not helping.

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

The reality is we're no where near the same number of youth players as Utah, Colorado, or Washington. Each of those states has 3-4x as many players as we do. Soccer crazed or not, it's a numbers game. We're doing about as well as we're supposed to statistically.

http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/media_kit/keystatistics/

Those numbers are skewed as they are from the 2013/14 season when most Oregon players were registered with US Club Soccer, not US Youth Soccer.

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Big difference is that Utah doesn't have their MLS club running youth soccer. Timbers involvement is HURTING youth soccer in Oregon, not helping.

Maybe we should all pitch in to help the Timbers take over Utah soccer. That way we could bring their quality way down to Oregon level or below.

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Or, it's simply a numbers advantage enjoyed by the other states. They have the same fragmented system of many clubs that we do, they just have a larger pool to pull from.

Wrong.....stop making excuses

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Or, it's simply a numbers advantage enjoyed by the other states. They have the same fragmented system of many clubs that we do, they just have a larger pool to pull from.

Ca & Seattle yes, Utah no numbers wise. Utah actually has a development mentality and a few top clubs where the most talented coaches and players gravitate towards- much like in Seattle where crossfire dominates the Bellevue/Redmond area and Seattle United dominates the west side for players

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Maybe we should all pitch in to help the Timbers take over Utah soccer. That way we could bring their quality way down to Oregon level or below.

Brilliant idea. Timbers and Thorns are terrible for youth soccer. Let's Trojan horse the timbers youth staff into other states so they can work their for profit magic on them. That could help bring those states quality down!

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 12:29 PM

Timbers and Thorns are already in multiple other states like CA, Idaho & others. Resistance is futile.

**Unregistered** · 06-25-2017, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

The reality is we're no where near the same number of youth players as Utah, Colorado, or Washington. Each of those states has 3-4x as many players as we do. Soccer crazed or not, it's a numbers game. We're doing about as well as we're supposed to statistically.

http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/media_kit/keystatistics/

I think those numbers are dated for Oregon - those are from 2014 and still reflect OYSA/OPL split.

Most recent annual report shows approaching 50,000. Materially smaller than Washington and Colorado, but pretty close to Arizona and Utah.