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Groan!
The sheer number of posts about big players is crazy.
You nickname them bully. You joke that they are driving to practice.
You deliberate where they should really play on the field. You suppose that they should really be playing on the 04 team.
Grow a pair.
The players at this age and playing at this level ought to be exposed to bigger players, faster players and more skilled players. (Did you not attend the Surf Cup?).
It’s not a bad thing for the players. It might be a bad thing for some parents who would rather see their kids team win, at the expense of dealing with adversity.
Very interesting to see comments from parents of certain teams at the beginning of the year, counting points and creating their own table. “We are the best”. Compare that to your comments now. “Unfair competition” or whatever. It’s just ridiculous. Get a ****ing life.

The funny thing is, most of these kids get along with players from other teams (like when they played ODP). It’s just the some of the parents who ruin it. Parents from ALL the clubs, yours and mine.

So suck it up cupcake. Want your player to compete against big and fast and talented players who foul. It’s real life and will ultimately make them better players even if they don’t win the fictitious league title.

Exactly. If you want to get better, play against the toughest competition around. I have never understood the criticism of either of the bigger forwards. If they could not play, they would not be played.

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? This makes no sense, the kid is talented and can flat out put the ball in the back of the net. Those that complain would have a very different tune if he were on their sons team instead of beating their kids team week after week. Why not play him up front? Does he get away with a lot sure, but that is not his fault he plays to the whistle and if the refs thought it was excessive he would have far more cards but HE DOES NOT.. I actually admire how hard he plays and have not seen anything so agregious (including the 50/50 ball with ADF hypocrites son last year) that he should not be in the field. And I am not a fc parent...

This is an interesting question.

He has a bit of a reputation for being a dirty player--foot stomping, shoves, etc. when the ref isn't looking. And taunting, including the taunting of injured players. And there's two schools of thought on that sort of play.

1) It's part of soccer, so deal with it. Learn to live with it, perhaps learn to dish it back out.

2) It may be "part of soccer", but it should have no place in the beautiful game. Referees that look the other way, and/or coaches that tolerate this, are doing players a disservice.

Personally, I'm somewhere in between. Soccer is a contact sport, and fouls are part of the game. OTOH, there is certain types of conduct that clearly AREN'T acceptable. Nigel de Jong breaking legs ought not be tolerated as "part of the game", anywhere. Deliberately trying to injure someone isn't acceptable. And players serve lengthy bans for this sort of thing, so it's clear that some contact crosses the line.

Does #9 for FC cross that line? I'd say sometimes, yes.

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Actually, they all do a pretty good job of being morons....

And the award for "largest eyeroll of the day" goes to this post. You obviously don't know a single family at that club.

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This is an interesting question.

He has a bit of a reputation for being a dirty player--foot stomping, shoves, etc. when the ref isn't looking. And taunting, including the taunting of injured players. And there's two schools of thought on that sort of play.

1) It's part of soccer, so deal with it. Learn to live with it, perhaps learn to dish it back out.

2) It may be "part of soccer", but it should have no place in the beautiful game. Referees that look the other way, and/or coaches that tolerate this, are doing players a disservice.

Personally, I'm somewhere in between. Soccer is a contact sport, and fouls are part of the game. OTOH, there is certain types of conduct that clearly AREN'T acceptable. Nigel de Jong breaking legs ought not be tolerated as "part of the game", anywhere. Deliberately trying to injure someone isn't acceptable. And players serve lengthy bans for this sort of thing, so it's clear that some contact crosses the line.

Does #9 for FC cross that line? I'd say sometimes, yes.

I agree that dirty play with the aim to injure, like what you often saw from the likes of Roy Keane and Nigel deJong have no place in soccer and should be dealt with very harshly.
I think you’ve crossed a different line when you accuse the FC player of the same intent.
You are flat wrong. In the years I’ve seen him play, I don’t recall any red cards. That’s a lot of games with a lot of different refs all missing his intent to injure? Come off it. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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I agree that dirty play with the aim to injure, like what you often saw from the likes of Roy Keane and Nigel deJong have no place in soccer and should be dealt with very harshly.
I think you’ve crossed a different line when you accuse the FC player of the same intent.
You are flat wrong. In the years I’ve seen him play, I don’t recall any red cards. That’s a lot of games with a lot of different refs all missing his intent to injure? Come off it. You should be ashamed of yourself.

He did get sent off in the State Cup semifinal last spring, though it was for a second caution, and the second yellow was rescinded (the "referee coach" apparently motioned to the ref to go ahead and book him a second time after he was mouthing off; and the ref coach is supposed to not interfere during play) so he was available in the final.

But he did clobber a Westside defender good and hard in that game, and then proceeded to taunt the injured player as he lay on the ground. So you'll pardon us if we have a negative view of him. He is a kid, so we hope he grows up (maturity-wise); lots of people do dumb things as kids and turn out fine.

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He did get sent off in the State Cup semifinal last spring, though it was for a second caution, and the second yellow was rescinded (the "referee coach" apparently motioned to the ref to go ahead and book him a second time after he was mouthing off; and the ref coach is supposed to not interfere during play) so he was available in the final.

But he did clobber a Westside defender good and hard in that game, and then proceeded to taunt the injured player as he lay on the ground. So you'll pardon us if we have a negative view of him. He is a kid, so we hope he grows up (maturity-wise); lots of people do dumb things as kids and turn out fine.

I was there, too. This incident is probably ground zero when Westside folks refer to this young man. I’ve also seen the frame by frame photo analysis of the clash with the Westside player posted by a pretty unhappy WT parent after that game so long ago.

Sorry to hear that still is important to some folks. Moving on to recent history, he has received four cautions. He is aggressive and sometimes he can talk ****. Like all the other players in this league he is certain to mature. So what your players get when they play against him is the opportunity to test themselves against a big, fast, aggressive, mouthy, baller who will give them no leniency. Pretty cool, huh?

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I was there, too. This incident is probably ground zero when Westside folks refer to this young man. I’ve also seen the frame by frame photo analysis of the clash with the Westside player posted by a pretty unhappy WT parent after that game so long ago.

Sorry to hear that still is important to some folks. Moving on to recent history, he has received four cautions. He is aggressive and sometimes he can talk ****. Like all the other players in this league he is certain to mature. So what your players get when they play against him is the opportunity to test themselves against a big, fast, aggressive, mouthy, baller who will give them no leniency. Pretty cool, huh?

Nobody should be taking away from this player's skill and quality of play. He is a very good player and somewhat helpful at this time. It is fantastic for all of our kids to play against fast, strong, focused, passionate players. It helps everyone. The main issue with this kid is that he has a horrible attitude and throws toddler like tantrums. He yells at referees, players and parents. He exemplifies the worst of youth soccer. Coaches tend to excuse the behavior for the results. Way to go FCP staff. You should be humiliated, not proud. His behavior on the field also helps everyone else. He is the perfect example of how not to act. The kid needs a major reality check. His poor attitude and gigantic ego are self depreciating. He won't last, so all this talk about him is a moot point. Lets talk about the kids with a real future. The ones who are respectful, show sportsmanship and skill. There are plenty!

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I was there, too. This incident is probably ground zero when Westside folks refer to this young man. I’ve also seen the frame by frame photo analysis of the clash with the Westside player posted by a pretty unhappy WT parent after that game so long ago.

You might be accusing us with the ADF dad whose kid RF clobbered in the State Cup final. HE posted a frame-by-frame analysis of that particular play, which IIRC was not whistled. (RF made a clean tackle on the ball with his feet on that play, but delivered a nasty body-check in the process). Since the ADF kid who was the victim (he went to TA this season) also had a reputation as a loudmouth and a dirty player, fewer tears were shed for him.

The WT kid knocked out, OTOH, isn't at all a dirty player.

Don't remember any pthotographic analysis of the Westside game, though I could be mistaken (and I'm too lazy to go back and look).

Sorry to hear that still is important to some folks. Moving on to recent history, he has received four cautions. He is aggressive and sometimes he can talk ****. Like all the other players in this league he is certain to mature. So what your players get when they play against him is the opportunity to test themselves against a big, fast, aggressive, mouthy, baller who will give them no leniency. Pretty cool, huh?

The problem with pushing this line is the problem with any escalation: sooner or later someone will come and escalate things further. The little DA has actually been fairly free of nasty play this season: I'm not aware of any major on-field injuries resulting from fouls (intentional, reckless, or otherwise), and so far nobody has been sent off. (Quite a few yellows, but no reds yet). But all it takes is two coaches to encourage this sort of thing...

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Is the FC Portland 05 DA team collapsing? So many at BSC practice tonight and three coaches gone.

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Is the FC Portland 05 DA team collapsing? So many at BSC practice tonight and three coaches gone.

BSC has a full roster, I can't imagine them taking a pile of unhappy FC players with two months left in the season.

Otoh, BSC might be holding early tryouts for next season.

Which coaches?

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Keep yawning. Your new coach will thoroughly put you to sleep soon.

Did some know something?

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BSC has a full roster, I can't imagine them taking a pile of unhappy FC players with two months left in the season.

Otoh, BSC might be holding early tryouts for next season.

Which coaches?

Brandon, Zach and Steven all left and Brandon is holding 8 tryout sessions on Friday nights for United PDX starting tonight. On the upside BSC/United PDX will probably have a solid B Team when it’s done.

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Did some know something?

Everyone new something, BUT FCP parents. They are asleep.

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Brandon, Zach and Steven all left and Brandon is holding 8 tryout sessions on Friday nights for United PDX starting tonight. On the upside BSC/United PDX will probably have a solid B Team when it’s done.

I recommend this book when it comes to dealing with unexpected change:

https://www.amazon.com/Who-Moved-My-...40_&dpSrc=srch

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Steven Evans to Westside next year, to coach the 05 and 07 DA teams:

http://www.westsidemetros.com/home.php?layout=3242525