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Today's scores, from OYSA:
Navy 6, Marseille 1
Copa 3, Bend 0.
No surprises, other than perhaps the margin of the FC victory.
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Honestly.. who cares? How much play time did all the kids get? Did every excited ten or eleven year old little boy that suited up for the games today get to play for at least 20 minutes total?? Or did a jackhole coach who is more worried about a win and his paycheck only play his "top talent" and bench the other little boys??
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHonestly.. who cares? How much play time did all the kids get? Did every excited ten or eleven year old little boy that suited up for the games today get to play for at least 20 minutes total?? Or did a jackhole coach who is more worried about a win and his paycheck only play his "top talent" and bench the other little boys??
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnd why would the margin of victory would be a surprise? Do share a detailed a account of the victory.
That said, ETFC is definitely a tier below the top teams in the age group.
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Some general advice for any parent not happy with their child's playing time.
1) Speak to the coach, or to the DoC. Perhaps you have done so already, and haven't received satisfaction.
2) Determine what the goals of the team and club in question are. Some clubs place a higher priority on their A team winning State Cup and other competitions than do others. Other clubs don't care as much.
3) If you're not happy, change clubs. Unfortunately, you can't do so expense-free at this time (you'll forfeit a half-year's dues at your current club), but if you're fully paid up at your current club, they generally can't oppose a transfer. The new club typically won't charge a full year of dues, but talk to them (both to confirm the financial part, and to make sure they have a roster spot). And your kid might not get on the A team at the new club.
4) Know what you want and what your son wants. Does he have dreams of playing professionally? Is it important for him to be on the A team, even if warming the bench? Is this important to you? Know that the vast majority of the kids playing for Copa, Navy, etc. will never be compensated for playing, make Timbers Academy, etc. And in many cases, parents care more about this sort of thing than the kids do.
5) Consider the B Team. Even if a club's A team is very win-focused, the B team often will be more focused on development and more egalitarian in doling out playing time--and many of them still are quite good. FC White, WT Samba, and ETFC Marseille Red are all very good teams (Bend, for some reason, went with two White teams instead of one clear 2nd and 3rd team. Both of them were placed too highly in Fall League, and are getting waxed on a regular basis as a result. They might be more competitive in D1 White instead of Green). I don't know which of the four clubs you play for (though I have my guess). And B team coaches love to receive players who are advanced tactically, but might not be quite skilled enough to play at premier level.
6) Be careful about complaining on online forums. The soccer community is smaller than you think...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSome general advice for any parent not happy with their child's playing time.
1) Speak to the coach, or to the DoC. Perhaps you have done so already, and haven't received satisfaction.
2) Determine what the goals of the team and club in question are. Some clubs place a higher priority on their A team winning State Cup and other competitions than do others. Other clubs don't care as much.
3) If you're not happy, change clubs. Unfortunately, you can't do so expense-free at this time (you'll forfeit a half-year's dues at your current club), but if you're fully paid up at your current club, they generally can't oppose a transfer. The new club typically won't charge a full year of dues, but talk to them (both to confirm the financial part, and to make sure they have a roster spot). And your kid might not get on the A team at the new club.
4) Know what you want and what your son wants. Does he have dreams of playing professionally? Is it important for him to be on the A team, even if warming the bench? Is this important to you? Know that the vast majority of the kids playing for Copa, Navy, etc. will never be compensated for playing, make Timbers Academy, etc. And in many cases, parents care more about this sort of thing than the kids do.
5) Consider the B Team. Even if a club's A team is very win-focused, the B team often will be more focused on development and more egalitarian in doling out playing time--and many of them still are quite good. FC White, WT Samba, and ETFC Marseille Red are all very good teams (Bend, for some reason, went with two White teams instead of one clear 2nd and 3rd team. Both of them were placed too highly in Fall League, and are getting waxed on a regular basis as a result. They might be more competitive in D1 White instead of Green). I don't know which of the four clubs you play for (though I have my guess). And B team coaches love to receive players who are advanced tactically, but might not be quite skilled enough to play at premier level.
6) Be careful about complaining on online forums. The soccer community is smaller than you think...
99% of the time it's the parents that have a playing time issue, not the player. If you were to eliminate the parents from the equations you would see more kids grow in this game
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHave your child talk to the coach.
99% of the time it's the parents that have a playing time issue, not the player. If you were to eliminate the parents from the equations you would see more kids grow in this game
Also, remember this: Most of development occurs in training, and in what your child does outside of formal soccer activities. Does he go hard in training, or slack/goof off? Does he play lots of pickup games? Practice dribbling/juggling on his own? Practice getting touches off a wall? Keeping fit and active generally (not necessarily through formal exercise--but also not parking in front of the TV or iGadget all day)? If he does watch videos, are any of them soccer (professional matches, training videos, or even "Top 100 Players of All Time" montages)?
Game play is important--competitive matches are often played at a higher speed than anything else, and full-team tactics can't really be learned outside of a context where the full team is there.
But there's only one-two hours of game time per week, and many think even two hours is too many. It's the rest of the time that will shape your child's development.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNothing new here then! They've had problems for years.
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