Will ECNL Fold Immediately or Just Be Relegated?

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A better question is how long will it take for the GDA to fold, if it actually gets started. ECNL will remain the #1 league for a long time as they offer the more attractive package all-around: lower cost, less travel, better competition, college-like substitution rules, HS sports, etc.

In Oregon, Thorns can't offer anything except a patch that means nothing as evidenced by results from the Beaverton Cup this weekend.

As nearly every Top Club of record in the U.S. + the GDA programs of the NWSL pro teams have been selected by US Soccer for GDA 17-18 play, the highest level and format has been established.

Other tiers of leagues can offer whatever they want as they have become feeders clubs the GDA.

In Oregon our local clubs who applied for the GDA 17-18 were not selected. Maybe next go around they get in the GDA

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As nearly every Top Club of record in the U.S. + the GDA programs of the NWSL pro teams have been selected by US Soccer for GDA 17-18 play, the highest level and format has been established.

Other tiers of leagues can offer whatever they want as they have become feeders clubs the GDA.

In Oregon our local clubs who applied for the GDA 17-18 were not selected. Maybe next go around they get in the GDA

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You're not the top tier until the players choose to play in your league. So far, HS girls are choosing overwhelmingly to play ECNL and HS soccer - and not drop a level down to GDA play. Facts are facts.

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You're not the top tier until the players choose to play in your league. So far, HS girls are choosing overwhelmingly to play ECNL and HS soccer - and not drop a level down to GDA play. Facts are facts.

Facts are facts indeed.The top clubs in th USA have joined th GDA for 17-18.

If your club didn't get selected to the GDA you certainly can play in an ecnl type of league and High School nothing has changed for the second-tier player.

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Girls that have a legitimate shot & desire to play on a USYNT or the USWNT, should all definitely go play for GDAP. If a girl isn't up to National team level (99.99% of Oregon girls), is interested mainly in playing in college & wants a more balanced life should all play for local club or ecnl. Bottom line is that top Oregon players didn't need ecnl to get to college and won't need GDAP to get to college. The cream will rise to the top regardless. This will always be the case. No one truly NEEDS to play GDAP or ECNL. The end college or USNT roster results will be the same. If you have money & time to burn and enjoy Academy or Ecnl, then do it and respect others choices to do whatever they like.

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Girls that have a legitimate shot & desire to play on a USYNT or the USWNT, should all definitely go play for GDAP. If a girl isn't up to National team level (99.99% of Oregon girls), is interested mainly in playing in college & wants a more balanced life should all play for local club or ecnl. Bottom line is that top Oregon players didn't need ecnl to get to college and won't need GDAP to get to college. The cream will rise to the top regardless. This will always be the case. No one truly NEEDS to play GDAP or ECNL. The end college or USNT roster results will be the same. If you have money & time to burn and enjoy Academy or Ecnl, then do it and respect others choices to do whatever they like.

US Soccer is charged with the development and supervision of all youth and adult National teams, as such they have created a platform for the Top Girls Clubs in the USA along with the NWSL pro teams to compete, train, develop in a streamlined platform, of their own making called the GDA. If you think about it they have refined and replaced an archaic state by state ODP Model for everyone and invested millions into scholarship for players in this top flight girls GDA league. Sure, like always there will be thousands of girls who will play in the feeder regional and local leagues sponsored by USYS and US Club Soccer and land at the colleges that match their academic and playing level. It's all good and Girls soccer is evolving. Finally.

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US Soccer is charged with the development and supervision of all youth and adult National teams, as such they have created a platform for the Top Girls Clubs in the USA along with the NWSL pro teams to compete, train, develop in a streamlined platform, of their own making called the GDA. If you think about it they have refined and replaced an archaic state by state ODP Model for everyone and invested millions into scholarship for players in this top flight girls GDA league. Sure, like always there will be thousands of girls who will play in the feeder regional and local leagues sponsored by USYS and US Club Soccer and land at the colleges that match their academic and playing level. It's all good and Girls soccer is evolving. Finally.

Yes! And as we all know, the state of US men's national team soccer is so strong, thanks to the boys DA program. It was long past time for the brain trust that created the boys DA and put US men's soccer on the map to step in and fix the truly broken and embarrassing state of US women's national soccer. Thanks to girls DA our women's team will finally have a shot to be relevant like the men's team.

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I already know the top Oregon ECNL players are moving to GDA. The rest are not good enough, they should stay ECNL until it folds. the smarter families remaining in ECNL will go back to their club teams which will be equitable to ECNL and much, much cheaper.

It's pretty obvious how this goes down. It will be nice to finally have one location for the top players.

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Yes! And as we all know, the state of US men's national team soccer is so strong, thanks to the boys DA program. It was long past time for the brain trust that created the boys DA and put US men's soccer on the map to step in and fix the truly broken and embarrassing state of US women's national soccer. Thanks to girls DA our women's team will finally have a shot to be relevant like the men's team.

This post from the other thread I thought would help you understand:

This is apples and oranges. The entire rest of the world only cares about men's soccer and really, nothing else. They certainly don't care about women's soccer. They pour more money, resources, talent, everyone is all in for men's soccer. It's really not surprising the USA women have done well. The rest of the world doesnt care. And to our credit, when all things equal we can roll out a better team. That's what's going on with the ladies.

The men's side will take 10, 20, 30 more years. And that assumes that the soccer wave in the USA continues to grow.

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This post from the other thread I thought would help you understand:

This is apples and oranges. The entire rest of the world only cares about men's soccer and really, nothing else. They certainly don't care about women's soccer. They pour more money, resources, talent, everyone is all in for men's soccer. It's really not surprising the USA women have done well. The rest of the world doesnt care. And to our credit, when all things equal we can roll out a better team. That's what's going on with the ladies.

The men's side will take 10, 20, 30 more years. And that assumes that the soccer wave in the USA continues to grow.

Awesome! So if I have a boy that's the right age for DA I just need to sign him up and know that in 20 years (long after his soccer career is over) the US men's program might be relevant. Where do I sign?

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US Soccer is charged with the development and supervision of all youth and adult National teams, as such they have created a platform for the Top Girls Clubs in the USA along with the NWSL pro teams to compete, train, develop in a streamlined platform, of their own making called the GDA. If you think about it they have refined and replaced an archaic state by state ODP Model for everyone and invested millions into scholarship for players in this top flight girls GDA league. Sure, like always there will be thousands of girls who will play in the feeder regional and local leagues sponsored by USYS and US Club Soccer and land at the colleges that match their academic and playing level. It's all good and Girls soccer is evolving. Finally.

Or devolving by following the mistakes of the men's side? Regardless, the Oregon girls who would've ended up at PSU, or even OSU or UO, will still end up there (or at the same level school). GDAP won't suddenly change our Oregon girls talent level. They still won't be getting full rides to top colleges. GDAP will change nothing in Oregon. Just as ECNL really changed nothing for individual Oregon girls. If in the next 20 years or so, the next Tiffany Milbrett comes along, it won't matter if she plays her entire youth "career" at a local club in Bend, Eugene or Rogue Valley. True top talent will be found & isn't created by ECNL nor by any new GDAP.

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Or devolving by following the mistakes of the men's side? Regardless, the Oregon girls who would've ended up at PSU, or even OSU or UO, will still end up there (or at the same level school). GDAP won't suddenly change our Oregon girls talent level. They still won't be getting full rides to top colleges. GDAP will change nothing in Oregon. Just as ECNL really changed nothing for individual Oregon girls. If in the next 20 years or so, the next Tiffany Milbrett comes along, it won't matter if she plays her entire youth "career" at a local club in Bend, Eugene or Rogue Valley. True top talent will be found & isn't created by ECNL nor by any new GDAP.

Seriously when did a top flight league become a discussion topic. US Soccer mandates what level all Pro and amateur levels of Soccer will be.

MLS #1
NASL #2
USl #3

US Soccer has designated that the country will have a top flight for Boys & Girls clubs called the DA.

What's the problem with that? You don't want to be considered 2nd tier or 3rd tier or even a lower level. Face it we play hard in whatever level we get placed in.

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Thread starter ? "Will ECNL Fold Immediately or Just Be Relegated?"


Somewhat of a rhetorical question as the former is impossible as they will play one last season in 2016-17 and the latter they will be relegated in 2017-18 with the creation of the Girls DA league.

Will they fold? Who knows this will be a question for the parents, DOC's, coaches and players not in the GDA to answer on an individual level.

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Seriously when did a top flight league become a discussion topic. US Soccer mandates what level all Pro and amateur levels of Soccer will be.

MLS #1
NASL #2
USl #3

US Soccer has designated that the country will have a top flight for Boys & Girls clubs called the DA.

What's the problem with that? You don't want to be considered 2nd tier or 3rd tier or even a lower level. Face it we play hard in whatever level we get placed in.

So basically the DA's argument is "we are the best because we say we are the best." Got it. Without ever having played a game, formed teams, set up any kind of schedule, you are the best. Check.

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My observation:
- Boys DA in Portland certainly hasn't lit the soccer world on fire, but at least for them it is free
- everyone is saying the girls DA is the place to be and they won't even roll a ball on the field for another 18 mos
- everyone that was complaining about ECNL and its cost and that the ECNLers were throwing their child's college money away well those are the same people screaming DA is the "bomb" but yet it will be significantly more expensive than ECNL
- Thorns should act like this isn't their first rodeo and not play in events like Beaverton Cup otherwise when the play the Slammers DA a quick soccer wake up call will happen

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My observation:
- Boys DA in Portland certainly hasn't lit the soccer world on fire, but at least for them it is free
- everyone is saying the girls DA is the place to be and they won't even roll a ball on the field for another 18 mos
- everyone that was complaining about ECNL and its cost and that the ECNLers were throwing their child's college money away well those are the same people screaming DA is the "bomb" but yet it will be significantly more expensive than ECNL
- Thorns should act like this isn't their first rodeo and not play in events like Beaverton Cup otherwise when the play the Slammers DA a quick soccer wake up call will happen

- Agree that the free aspect of boys DA is what makes it most successful. The posters on here saying that the girls side "has" to be free because boys is make me laugh.

- Agree again that calling a league the "best" when they are a year and a half away from their inaugural games is kinda ridiculous.

- Hypocrisy abounds on both sides.

- Agree most of all. The Beaverton cup is a gigantic stumble right out of the gate for the Thorns. Although it appears to be an appropriate tournament for their older team. The younger one should have sat out, done Crossfire instead, or at the very least played a year up.