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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    1. High school ends up doing more harm to the top %.

    2. Ecnl in Oregon has rosters of 27 players or more for the sole reason of managing costs. Thats not development. When you bring 18 to a club game you not only cut a third out of playing time but youve just cut everyone elses down by almost half. You cant justify it either way. If you sit the players entire games except for 5 minutes, its a disservice 100%. If you sub 18 you dont get players at all prepared for playing long stretches which the top players will absolutely in college and above. That was a terrible point made by you. College coaches would rather have players who cant play full games or close.

    3. Im sorry location makes it hard for you to make it to practice...why not just stay at your local neighborhood team. Or in your case fly around the country to play...

    4. So does everyone else but in the DA case, perhaps they can cut loose the players who are already committed or need a local club like yours to take care of them.

    Im not saying DA is the answer because its pretty much another rediculous structure to grab power, make money, and insert BS regulations. But your arguement for ecnl is a joke. And ecnl brought this on with its rediculous pay to get seen but get worse then what players really need at that age. Those clubs got scammed and now stuck holding that bag.
    I never argued for ECNL, just pointing out there will be new issues on top of what ECNL already has, which is cost of travel. The GDA will also have that problem. And as far as the Fall born seniors...this is a nationwide problem that needs addressed. And trust me, no college coach wants their senior recruits reducing the level they are playing at! I feel like you really have no clue what you are talking about.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I never argued for ECNL, just pointing out there will be new issues on top of what ECNL already has, which is cost of travel. The GDA will also have that problem. And as far as the Fall born seniors...this is a nationwide problem that needs addressed. And trust me, no college coach wants their senior recruits reducing the level they are playing at! I feel like you really have no clue what you are talking about.
      If USSF gives a hoot about players (which, of course, is very much in doubt) they'll do some kind of combined age group like other leagues are doing so the trapped seniors have a place to play. No way college coaches would tolerate them not playing

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        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        1. The girls who will play DA will be the most mentality and academically tough girls.
        The girls with 4.0 GPA, taking AP and honor classes, and can balance elite soccer.
        You think that they are not intelligent enough to make hard decisions. Your attitude and
        others enfeeble these girls to hide behind their mama's skirts. Hard choices build
        character and strength. Using hs soccer as an excuse why girls won't do this is as feeble
        as girls won't play soccer b/c they develop big calf muscles and boys won't like them.

        2. Laff. Wrong. Read the boy's DA guide, which will be the same as the girls.
        There are 5-7 substitutions, depending on age group, across 3 moments.
        11 players start and 7 subs. AND guaranteed 25% start times for every player in the
        season.

        3. Sigh. Again, these are parents and kids who are dedicated to play at a higher level.
        This means sacrifice and great time management. If your little Abby or yourself can't
        commit to this, then don't try out. Stick to rec soccer and trophies for all.

        4. If your little Abby hasn't been committed to play college soccer by senior year, then
        you got bigger issues. There will be U14/15, U16/17, and U18/19. Yes, they will
        support seniors.

        I really don't know what will happen in DA or how it will affect ECNL.
        But I am willing to keep an open mind AND try to be informed with the correct information
        to guide my dd in the right direction.
        Nowhere in the US Soccer press release does it say that the girls DA will follow the same substitution rules as the boys DA. It does say that they rules will be based on international standards of "no reentry, limited subs". The no reentry statement suggests a maximum of 7 subs per game (ie. unlimited as you can use all the players you have), but they then felt the need to further qualify with the "limited subs" clause which suggest the maximum number of subs will be less than 7. Int'l rules is 3 maximum, so the range, based on this information published by US Soccer, is clearly 3 to 6.

        Of course, the "no reentry" clause is what will severely limit playing time for players 12-18 on the depth chart. Barring injury or a complete laugher of a game no coach is going to remove his starters prior to HT.

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          #49
          hey boy's da parents, find your own thread. oh that's right, not much to talk about boy's da. just misery and disappointment. talk about scams. how's the college recruitment?
          please dont infect us with your many years of wisdom in da, if that's what success looks like. hey when ecnl for boys roll out next year, mabye your kid has a chance to play
          hs soccer and be seen by coaches for college ball.

          da for girls? if your kid hasnt been to a training center, national camp, or even odp, at the
          least, why bother?

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Nowhere in the US Soccer press release does it say that the girls DA will follow the same substitution rules as the boys DA. It does say that they rules will be based on international standards of "no reentry, limited subs". The no reentry statement suggests a maximum of 7 subs per game (ie. unlimited as you can use all the players you have), but they then felt the need to further qualify with the "limited subs" clause which suggest the maximum number of subs will be less than 7. Int'l rules is 3 maximum, so the range, based on this information published by US Soccer, is clearly 3 to 6.

            Of course, the "no reentry" clause is what will severely limit playing time for players 12-18 on the depth chart. Barring injury or a complete laugher of a game no coach is going to remove his starters prior to HT.
            A quality coach can ensure quality minutes and starts fro each player by putting together and managing a roster well.

            No reentry benefits the player by forcing them to solve problems that a coach usually solves with a tactical sub.

            However, no reentry isn't the college game, where players are expected to go all out until tired the. They bring fresh legs on. Fitness and athleticism are admired over soccer and saavy.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

              4. If your little Abby hasn't been committed to play college soccer by senior year, then
              you got bigger issues.
              You're an idiot with your "you got bigger issues" comment. Your comment is typical, though, of someone that believes the reason students attend college is to play a sport. It's obvious by reading your other drivel that the educational aspect has been lost on you. Hopefully it wasn't lost on your Little Mia as well.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Ten thousand dollars and no high school? No track?

                College coaches recommend track for many girls. Plus they want multi sport athletes.

                This DA is NOT for college bound girls. Only girls on a pro/USWNT track.
                Why would a college coach suggests track for their Players

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Why would a college coach suggests track for their Players
                  Keeps them working on speed and fitness senior year. This is very common.

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                    #54
                    Why ?????

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Why would a college coach suggests track for their Players
                    Many boys and girls in high school don't make college teams based on their inability to run correctly. Flailing arms, arms crossing across the body, etc. The players top speed suffers and getting to that speed also suffers. If you aren't the fastest you can be, you probably will be glued to the bench even if you do make a team.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Many boys and girls in high school don't make college teams based on their inability to run correctly. Flailing arms, arms crossing across the body, etc. The players top speed suffers and getting to that speed also suffers. If you aren't the fastest you can be, you probably will be glued to the bench even if you do make a team.
                      This is very true. My daughter had a very messed up running form. Her club coach said it was holding her back and recommended track. Her track coach "fixed" her and she is now one of the fastest on her team and a starter and full game player. We are total believers in track. It helped her speed and endurance and its something she enjoys.

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                        #56
                        Why ?????

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Why would a college coach suggests track for their Players
                        Many boys and girls in high school don't make college teams based on their inability to run correctly. Flailing arms, arms crossing across the body, etc. The players top speed suffers and getting to that speed also suffers. If you aren't the fastest you can be, you probably will be glued to the bench even if you do make a team.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Why would a college coach suggests track for their Players
                          Simple. To keep fitness up.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Does the $15,000 per year include parent travel?
                            Parent travel is out of club control so it is not part of any discussion.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Many boys and girls in high school don't make college teams based on their inability to run correctly. Flailing arms, arms crossing across the body, etc. The players top speed suffers and getting to that speed also suffers. If you aren't the fastest you can be, you probably will be glued to the bench even if you do make a team.
                              Im pretty sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

                              Ive coached collegiate and above and I dont think anyone would back up your statement. In fact i would tell you that training for track is counter productive to soccer considering muscle groups that are over developed and your flailing arms idea is negated by the best players in the world dont have sprinter form...A worldclass sprinter would blow over in a good wind.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Im pretty sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

                                Ive coached collegiate and above and I dont think anyone would back up your statement. In fact i would tell you that training for track is counter productive to soccer considering muscle groups that are over developed and your flailing arms idea is negated by the best players in the world dont have sprinter form...A worldclass sprinter would blow over in a good wind.
                                Mostly correct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZqEj-Qyg6U

                                But, some coaching on running probably wouldn't hurt that bad...

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