Ecnl snake oil parents

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If I understand this correctly, CU wants to make sure that there is absolutely no way that the GDA can exist as competition to the ECNL in this area?

Make sure that CU players, or anyone considering an option to trying out for CU, doesn't have another option?

Sure. Or I'm just trolling you and have no idea what CU is doing. Think what you want. You have lots of time to ponder conspiracy theories on the sidelines of the Beaverton Cup games.

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Sure. Or I'm just trolling you and have no idea what CU is doing. Think what you want. You have lots of time to ponder conspiracy theories on the sidelines of the Beaverton Cup games.

No problem.

Our team has their verbal commitments already and will be fine.

Thanks for the entertainment.

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We all know who they are. Go ahead and list them here.

You know, the ones who are trying really hard to get your kid because they realize their situation doesn't look good without good players around them.

Their gamble isn't paying off more and more.

Overloaded rosters of 27 to manage costs.
Atrocious costs and then you find out that you are going to the same crossfire challenge that any random team can go to.
Not developing but recruiting coaches who don't care because their is always one more gullible parent.
Can't figure out why coaches are telling fellow parents to try and go find other developed kids so they can replace the current ones who are sitting other 26 others players.

Some of the worst parents. Always 1-2 from each club and they are always the cancers. A couple pretty good players but the talent is diluted.


Try harder ecnl parents. Try harder.

Oh imagine that my dd got a D1 offer and I didn't fall for the scam.

Pretty apparent when the ecnl clubs scammed their parents on the next best thing, now to apply for the next best thing.

Imagine the idea they can't do anything but sell and recruit because their development is garbage.

They ll always be a gullible family waiting for the next best thing.....

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I totally agree. There are about 1500 schools that offer woman's college soccer.
330 are Div I, 250 Div 2, 430 Div 3, NAIA\NJCCA\Other 450 ish. So, there is something
for everybody. Hey, some community college league? No problem. PCC is great.

HOWEVER, if you want your dd to play as a starter in a top 25 Div 1 team, she better
come from a very good ECNL team, national pool player, or the rare player that didn't
do ECNL. She needs to be on fire. I can safely say that Top Div 2/3 teams are full
of ECNL girls.

Sorry to burst your bubble, dad. But even local colleges, like Portland State, have
three tiers of players. Impact/Starter players with scholarships, good core committed players with little or no scholarships, and walk-ons. Then, there is college intramural.
See, your dd can play in college!

I love the movies that shows a diamond in the rough turn into the star player and wins the hearts and minds of the coaches, team, and the school.
But that is fantasy. Hard work, talent, and sacrifice get to play high level sports.
Aim low, dad. Your dd will that target.

My dd is at a top d1 school. In her class of 7, two are from overseas, one never played ECNL, one is from north of the boarder, two got their offers withou ECNL but did play ECNL after committing and one played ECNL ever since U14. So, one out of seven. Apparently you are clueless and probably should shut up, sit down and learn something.

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Ecnl is a scam in oregon. Not only are they not getting more offers then previous they are now having to deal with

Lack of development because of the poor quality of many of the teams.
Numbers at the development ages 13-16 has plummetted. Expensive, poor development, and coaches over recruit to replace them rather than help.
Overloaded rosters only to manage costs
Poor development at early ages and forced to recruit

Toxic parents who come thinking they were sold a magic bullet by other toxic parents and snake oil fcp coaches.

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Its pretty amazing with all the ecnl propaganda trying to fool people, youd think the ecnl parents would want to keep their amazing situation a secret...

I ran into another parent trying to sell me on the league but it turns out the team is pretty mediocre and the structure doesnt look great in actually making kids better. Sure they get to play different teams but so do all teams if they travel. They cant stop recruiting but they already have rosters wAyyyy to big.

Puzzling.

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Its pretty amazing with all the ecnl propaganda trying to fool people, youd think the ecnl parents would want to keep their amazing situation a secret...

I ran into another parent trying to sell me on the league but it turns out the team is pretty mediocre and the structure doesnt look great in actually making kids better. Sure they get to play different teams but so do all teams if they travel. They cant stop recruiting but they already have rosters wAyyyy to big.

Puzzling.

Puzzling.

As terrible as ECNL is, there are sure a lot of talking(whining/moaning/complaining etc) about it. A lot of time and energy criticizing by those NOT doing ECNL. I mean, things that are inherently terrible, should be obvious to everyone without the incessant whining about it, Right?

You think an ECNL parent was trying to sell you on it and you disagree. But, You disagree so much that you take the time and energy to vent on an anonymous chat board about it. If you declined because it's not for you or your DD, then why post? After all, it's a personal choice right?

IF that parent was trying to recruit your DD, that parent must feel your daughter is capable of playing at the ECNL level. Instead of being flattered Declining quietly (I presume you did), you're posting about the evils of ECNL. Why protest so much about something you want NO part of?

Puzzling.

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Puzzling.

As terrible as ECNL is, there are sure a lot of talking(whining/moaning/complaining etc) about it. A lot of time and energy criticizing by those NOT doing ECNL. I mean, things that are inherently terrible, should be obvious to everyone without the incessant whining about it, Right?

You think an ECNL parent was trying to sell you on it and you disagree. But, You disagree so much that you take the time and energy to vent on an anonymous chat board about it. If you declined because it's not for you or your DD, then why post? After all, it's a personal choice right?

IF that parent was trying to recruit your DD, that parent must feel your daughter is capable of playing at the ECNL level. Instead of being flattered Declining quietly (I presume you did), you're posting about the evils of ECNL. Why protest so much about something you want NO part of?

Puzzling.

We are celebrating not electing to be part of the two local clubs who registered to play in the Mountain Division of the Northwest Conference of the ECNL. For us it's a savings of around 40K to 50K over 5 years. Due to the travel commitments to the designated jamborees/showcases all over the U.S.. Simply we have no interest in paying that much to travel in airplanes, stay at hotels and rent vans just to play soccer vs unknown teams until the week prior to the event and gambling that much money for the chance to be 'seen' while these local neighborhood girls club teams are being smoked at such events. Of course parents try and recruit our daughter as she can play and has a verbal commitment to play at a mid major college.

I'ts well documented their club team struggles in the showcases and even vs the border states in the mountain division. I don't blame them for recruiting strong players to their fold, currently they can't compete and need to upgrade their roster with more talent. If all the parents on the team want to pool their money and pay for our daughter's travel that would be a good start of a discussion, it isn't, so we stand pat delighted for future and her club's and HS team level of competition.

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We are celebrating not electing to be part of the two local clubs who registered to play in the Mountain Division of the Northwest Conference of the ECNL. For us it's a savings of around 40K to 50K over 5 years. Due to the travel commitments to the designated jamborees/showcases all over the U.S.. Simply we have no interest in paying that much to travel in airplanes, stay at hotels and rent vans just to play soccer vs unknown teams until the week prior to the event and gambling that much money for the chance to be 'seen' while these local neighborhood girls club teams are being smoked at such events. Of course parents try and recruit our daughter as she can play and has a verbal commitment to play at a mid major college.

I'ts well documented their club team struggles in the showcases and even vs the border states in the mountain division. I don't blame them for recruiting strong players to their fold, currently they can't compete and need to upgrade their roster with more talent. If all the parents on the team want to pool their money and pay for our daughter's travel that would be a good start of a discussion, it isn't, so we stand pat delighted for future and her club's and HS team level of competition.

But you didn't answer the question. If your kid was truly sought after and you turned down a spot, why come on and try to influence others to do the same? I personally don't care who plays where. My daughter is on a good team and is challenged and has good teammates. When you're in a spot like that there's no reason to complain or tear down other people's choices. So why are you complaining so much and so publicly?

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We are celebrating not electing to be part of the two local clubs who registered to play in the Mountain Division of the Northwest Conference of the ECNL. For us it's a savings of around 40K to 50K over 5 years. Due to the travel commitments to the designated jamborees/showcases all over the U.S.. Simply we have no interest in paying that much to travel in airplanes, stay at hotels and rent vans just to play soccer vs unknown teams until the week prior to the event and gambling that much money for the chance to be 'seen' while these local neighborhood girls club teams are being smoked at such events. Of course parents try and recruit our daughter as she can play and has a verbal commitment to play at a mid major college.

I'ts well documented their club team struggles in the showcases and even vs the border states in the mountain division. I don't blame them for recruiting strong players to their fold, currently they can't compete and need to upgrade their roster with more talent. If all the parents on the team want to pool their money and pay for our daughter's travel that would be a good start of a discussion, it isn't, so we stand pat delighted for future and her club's and HS team level of competition.

I'm the OP you've responded to. Another poster pointed out that you never answered my original question and I have to agree. I've said it before, if ECNL is for you, great! If it's not, that's great too!

For something you want no part of, why protest so much? If you're trying to save others from ECNL, why? We are all accountable to ourselves and our DD's, Not anyone elses. Live your own lives, be happy with YOUR choices.

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I'm the OP you've responded to. Another poster pointed out that you never answered my original question and I have to agree. I've said it before, if ECNL is for you, great! If it's not, that's great too!

For something you want no part of, why protest so much? If you're trying to save others from ECNL, why? We are all accountable to ourselves and our DD's, Not anyone elses. Live your own lives, be happy with YOUR choices.

Exactly. I have enough going on getting one kid to her practices and tournaments without worrying about what every single girl in the state of Oregon is opting to do. We found a team that is a great fit for her. It happens to be an ECNL team. We are happy and FAR more importantly - she is happy. If you have found the same at Thorns academy or OYSA or wherever, that's great too. One size does not fit all and that's perfectly fine.

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We are celebrating not electing to be part of the two local clubs who registered to play in the Mountain Division of the Northwest Conference of the ECNL. For us it's a savings of around 40K to 50K over 5 years. Due to the travel commitments to the designated jamborees/showcases all over the U.S.. Simply we have no interest in paying that much to travel in airplanes, stay at hotels and rent vans just to play soccer vs unknown teams until the week prior to the event and gambling that much money for the chance to be 'seen' while these local neighborhood girls club teams are being smoked at such events. Of course parents try and recruit our daughter as she can play and has a verbal commitment to play at a mid major college.

I'ts well documented their club team struggles in the showcases and even vs the border states in the mountain division. I don't blame them for recruiting strong players to their fold, currently they can't compete and need to upgrade their roster with more talent. If all the parents on the team want to pool their money and pay for our daughter's travel that would be a good start of a discussion, it isn't, so we stand pat delighted for future and her club's and HS team level of competition.

If you're saving $40 to $50K over 5 years then someone must be paying your DD to not play soccer at all. Total cost of ECNL for 5 years is around $30K, all in. Or about the same cost as playing on a top travelling non-ECNL team.

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If you're saving $40 to $50K over 5 years then someone must be paying your DD to not play soccer at all. Total cost of ECNL for 5 years is around $30K, all in. Or about the same cost as playing on a top travelling non-ECNL team.

The famlies who have been hounding us to have her join their club team mentionefed they like most of the other parents do travel to the showcases because they want to give the player profiles directly to the coaches. we figured we'd go to maybe just one or two showcases which added another 10K - 15K over the five-year period on peer pressure alone.. because the girld don't play in our state that often..we least want to see her play once in awhil..but you know it was a big expensive process in the end it just wasn't worth it.
We try our best to explain to these parents you know it's it's really not our thing and we're happy where we're at but what's so irritating is they just don't stop recruiting...they must be really desperate for some talented players and be in way above their heads in this episode of insanity.

flattering at first now it's just plain pathetic

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The famlies who have been hounding us to have her join their club team mentionefed they like most of the other parents do travel to the showcases because they want to give the player profiles directly to the coaches. we figured we'd go to maybe just one or two showcases which added another 10K - 15K over the five-year period on peer pressure alone.. because the girld don't play in our state that often..we least want to see her play once in awhil..but you know it was a big expensive process in the end it just wasn't worth it.
We try our best to explain to these parents you know it's it's really not our thing and we're happy where we're at but what's so irritating is they just don't stop recruiting...they must be really desperate for some talented players and be in way above their heads in this episode of insanity.

flattering at first now it's just plain pathetic

Ok, I get it. You're lying. Travel to showcases to give your player's profile directly to coaches? You have no idea how this works. But you do know a thing or two about pathetic. Dude, live and let live. Sorry your kid couldn't make ECNL or didn't want to and now you feel left behind. Life goes on.

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I'm the OP you've responded to. Another poster pointed out that you never answered my original question and I have to agree. I've said it before, if ECNL is for you, great! If it's not, that's great too!

For something you want no part of, why protest so much? If you're trying to save others from ECNL, why? We are all accountable to ourselves and our DD's, Not anyone elses. Live your own lives, be happy with YOUR choices.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out playing in a league with teams far superior to your own might not be a great fit especially when a state that has no record of achievement carelessly submits two local clubs into it ..OK they're jusy too stupid to realize they're in over their heads, that's inexcusable... but understandable given the notion they want so desperately to believe that they belong when they did nothing other than write a check or use a credit card to pay for an airline ticket...you can't buy quality, but until you realize that keep subsidizing the insanity and the 1% who actually benefit from this experience.

Feel the Bern