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    #76
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Using that same logic then we are to the ECNL league what we are accusing the TA teams of. I think we all need to get over ourselves. There really isn't much to brag about anywhere.
    No bragging on my part, I was just saying that the 2 aren't even comparable and that I'd rather have my daughter working hard and getting challenged in ECNL, even at the expense of wins, than racking up easy wins in OYSA.

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      #77
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Sorry Charlie, ECNL doesn't deliver college to all girls who wear that ECNL patch. But you just keep thinking that, up until the cold harsh reality sets in for your dd.
      No one ever said anything is full proof or even guaranteed
      The class of 2016 is comprised of Amazing Young Women who will be playing at multiple collegiate soccer levels:
      ECNL Class of 2016: 1,346
      College Bound ECNL: 1,239
      Total Players Playing Collegiate Soccer: 1,224
      Division I: 969
      Division II, III, NAIA: 266
      Undecided: 111

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        #78
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Vardar - 4
        Alberston Fury - 4

        The statement was ECNL delivers on college. Sorry, but the numbers across the board show that ECNL doesn't deliver on college for all players. Why can't you kool aid drinkers accept facts?

        Also, a good number of those FC and CU commits were committed before ECNL came to Oregon. The CU girl going to Tennessee was committed to Maryland over 2 years ago. Also, most of the FCP girls who are going to UP committed before ECNL, and it shouldn't take even the small pea brains of the ECNL crowd to realize that they didn't get offers from UP due to ECNL. All of those girls would have been offered regardless of ECNL. Sheesh, the ECNL clowns can't get out of their own way in these arguments. But keep thinking because your dd has an ECNL patch she's going to get an offer.
        If you want to keep hating on ECNL please do so as we aren't spending your money, but these are the facts:
        class of 2016 is comprised of Amazing Young Women who will be playing at multiple collegiate soccer levels:
        ECNL Class of 2016: 1,346
        College Bound ECNL: 1,239
        Total Players Playing Collegiate Soccer

        The class of 2016 is comprised of Amazing Young Women who will be playing at multiple collegiate soccer levels:
        ECNL Class of 2016: 1,346
        College Bound ECNL: 1,239

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          #79
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Vardar - 4
          Alberston Fury - 4

          The statement was ECNL delivers on college. Sorry, but the numbers across the board show that ECNL doesn't deliver on college for all players. Why can't you kool aid drinkers accept facts?

          Also, a good number of those FC and CU commits were committed before ECNL came to Oregon. The CU girl going to Tennessee was committed to Maryland over 2 years ago. Also, most of the FCP girls who are going to UP committed before ECNL, and it shouldn't take even the small pea brains of the ECNL crowd to realize that they didn't get offers from UP due to ECNL. All of those girls would have been offered regardless of ECNL. Sheesh, the ECNL clowns can't get out of their own way in these arguments. But keep thinking because your dd has an ECNL patch she's going to get an offer.
          45% of girls going to college are coming from 79 teams. The other 55% are coming from 2000+ teams. I'd say ECNL is doing a MUCH better job of putting girls in college than the alternatives.

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            #80
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            45% of girls going to college are coming from 79 teams. The other 55% are coming from 2000+ teams. I'd say ECNL is doing a MUCH better job of putting girls in college than the alternatives.
            No, ECNL has many more college level players in their league. ECNL doesn't do crap for making them into college level athletes. The patch doesn't improve their speed, agility or skills. Sorry Charlie.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              No, ECNL has many more college level players in their league. ECNL doesn't do crap for making them into college level athletes. The patch doesn't improve their speed, agility or skills. Sorry Charlie.
              You need to switch to decaf. No one is saying the patch improves their speed, agility or skills. However, girls wearing the ECNL patch are playing at the next level at a higher percentage than if they didn't have the patch

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                #82
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You need to switch to decaf. No one is saying the patch improves their speed, agility or skills. However, girls wearing the ECNL patch are playing at the next level at a higher percentage than if they didn't have the patch
                So ECNL is focused on college exposure. So more girls who have college ability go there. And now you are reporting that they have a high number of girls going to college that play in ECNL. Gee, thanks for the insight. Guess no girls went to college to play soccer before ECNL. Oh wait, yes they did. The same number as today. Oh snap.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This isn't going to be pretty. No more playing nice. Girls mostly through the process are lucky they won't have to deal with the mess facing both leagues for the next few years.



                  The U.S. Soccer Federation is set to launch a Development Academy (DA) for girls in August 2017, replicating the DA for boys that it launched in 2007.

                  That the Federation hadn’t launched a girls DA earlier was attributed mainly to a couple of reasons.

                  One being that because the U.S. women’s national team was already a world power, there was more urgency on the boys side. Secondly, the U.S. Club-sanctioned ECNL -- the Elite Clubs National League – launched in 2009 and in many ways served the U.S. national team program (and college scouts) the way the DA has for the boys.

                  Last Friday, U.S. Soccer Technical Director April Heinrichs and U.S. Soccer Director of Sport Development Ryan Mooney met with ECNL and U.S. Club representatives.

                  “We went in there with the idea that we wanted to collaborate with the Federation to create anything that would raise the standards of the girls game and continue to improve the girls game,” said Christian Lavers, the president of the ECNL, which has 79 member clubs. “The Federation’s position was they considered collaborating with the ECNL [but] determined that they could raise standards in the game and change the game in all the ways they wanted to better and faster without us. …

                  “I can’t speak to why that is. In the world I live in, collaboration is almost always a valuable thing in multiple ways. … If something changes with respect to the Federation’s position, that’s great. But it was pretty clear in that meeting that collaboration and working together was something that they didn't want and did not feel was helpful. ...

                  "The input and support and buy-in of the ECNL clubs and coaches and the people in the grass-roots were not really a part of [the Federation's] process."

                  Lavers said the USSF representatives acknowledged that the ECNL had “done a lot of good things in the girls game and raised a lot standards.” Lavers pointed out that the ECNL has tried "very hard" to implement standards that the U.S. Soccer technical staff has said were important in girls development.

                  The ECNL plans to continue, which means the girls DA will have competition for the nation’s elite players unlike it faced on the boys side.

                  One major difference between the ECNL and the DA is that ECNL is age-pure; member clubs field teams at the five age groups, from U-14 to U-18. The DA teams field U-14, U-16 and U-18 teams. The DA bans players from participating in high school ball. The ECNL allows its players to play high school.

                  “We feel we have the best platform in the world because we have the input and ideas of the people who are on the ground and we are going to continue to operate that platform and continue to try and get better everyday with everything we do,” Lavers said. “We will continue to build a platform that serves the needs of the top players in the country and we will continue to keep looking to get better in all aspects.”


                  ECNL is on its last year. Second tier going forward.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    So ECNL is focused on college exposure. So more girls who have college ability go there. And now you are reporting that they have a high number of girls going to college that play in ECNL. Gee, thanks for the insight. Guess no girls went to college to play soccer before ECNL. Oh wait, yes they did. The same number as today. Oh snap.
                    Statistics don't support your assertion. There are more than 30 Oregon ECNL girls from 2016. I am guessing there have to be more than 10 clubs in the rest of the state and I am guessing they don't even have 15 combined. I may be wrong, but please list all the non-ECNL class from 2016. Again I am not saying ECNL is the only way, but you will get more national exposure

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      So ECNL is focused on college exposure. So more girls who have college ability go there. And now you are reporting that they have a high number of girls going to college that play in ECNL. Gee, thanks for the insight. Guess no girls went to college to play soccer before ECNL. Oh wait, yes they did. The same number as today. Oh snap.
                      How come no girls from TA clubs go to college to play soccer? Oh snap.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Statistics don't support your assertion. There are more than 30 Oregon ECNL girls from 2016. I am guessing there have to be more than 10 clubs in the rest of the state and I am guessing they don't even have 15 combined. I may be wrong, but please list all the non-ECNL class from 2016. Again I am not saying ECNL is the only way, but you will get more national exposure
                        It's hard for the TA clubs to put girls in college when they can't even keep HS teams together. The ECNL clubs have more HS-aged girls teams than all 7 TA clubs combined, and have them playing at higher levels.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You need to switch to decaf. No one is saying the patch improves their speed, agility or skills. However, girls wearing the ECNL patch are playing at the next level at a higher percentage than if they didn't have the patch
                          Unless they are from other states coming to Oregon to play us. That must suck.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Unless they are from other states coming to Oregon to play us. That must suck.
                            Sucks a lot less than coming to Oregon to play TA teams - assuming there are still TA HS girls teams.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              How come no girls from TA clubs go to college to play soccer? Oh snap.
                              Just because you can't read doesn't mean that things aren't happening. Poor little ECNL daddy has a dd who doesn't have an offer and he has to make things up to make himself feel better. So sorry daddy, lots of TA girls have offers while your little ECNL princess is crying at night because no school is interested in her.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Sucks a lot less than coming to Oregon to play TA teams - assuming there are still TA HS girls teams.
                                I wasn't aware that teams were spending big money to come play TA teams? Are they? If they did then yes that would be even more disappointing than coming to Oregon to play Oregon level ECNL teams.

                                When you pay so much for travel you expect a minimum level of competence. Otherwise it is not only a waste of time, but also travel dollars as you could likely beat up on a team very close to home.

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