Ecnl is going bye bye

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If they are a junior and the coach isn't calling you or even calling you back then they are not interested

Now that is stressful.....

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Well pretty much everyone is elite since anyone and their sister can make the Elite Clubs National League.

Everyone gets a trophy, we are all elite. Vote for Bernie.

How come your DD didn't make it then? Sorry your not part of the "pretty much everyone". Sucks to live in Gresham, huh?

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My dd is very good but certainly not one of the elite superstars so we likely won't have to worry about the stress of getting recruited early. Junior & Senior year will roll around and if she gets interest from coaches, great. If not, she is one of the superstar elite kids academically and college will be all about academics if soccer doesn't end up in the cards. Though it would be so awesome to get recruited to a top school of her choice for soccer her freshman year, I suspect that situation is very rare across the board. Those kids may have a "stressful" situation having to call multiple coaches that are interested in their amazing soccer abilities but I view that as more "how lucky for them" than "wow, that must be stressful".

We were lucky in that my dd got her top choice. But the two went hand in hand as she was on campus for the first time getting her offer at the same time and knew that was the place for her. She was lucky. But she would have been happy with the other schools that offered. She was very fortunate that the schools that showed the most interest were all fit the type of school she wanted. She cast a broad net, just in case, but got what she wanted so didn't need any interest from schools outside the highly desirable list.

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Well pretty much everyone is elite since anyone and their sister can make the Elite Clubs National League.

Everyone gets a trophy, we are all elite. Vote for Bernie.

Speaking of Bernie, I'm not on board with his socialism, but I am on board with his folksy approach. I wish we had more candidates that had his demeanor.

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If they are a junior and the coach isn't calling you or even calling you back then they are not interested

Yes. One needs to learn when to cut bait and move on during the process.

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Thank you 608. I am not about to pop a blood vessel, but many of us were not prepared to manage 14 year olds calling unknown men on the phone, emailing back and forth between the child, college coaches, and her club coach intermediary, and also the travel every other weekend. That would be a strain for most of us "humans". Absolutely we are trying to make it enjoyable for her, but she sees it as a job for which she wasn't really ready. All of her friends in the same situation discuss how hard it is to make these phone calls my child isn't "immature". We are working hard to help her handle it all. Making a college list is challenging when the entire country is in play, you are 14 and don't know what you want to be, and 3 years from now is an unimaginable eternity. I think you are really obnoxious to be judging the way we are handling a difficult situation.

So you say why do it? We are caught up in the same mess as many others as this recruiting process starts earlier and earlier. Should we potentially open our child up to missing a great opportunity because its so early in her education? Or do we play the game as it currently allows and react to every invitation for a visit with a family meeting on the school, our child's opinion of it (which at this time may be strongly influenced by TV shows!), and the opportunity offered. I have started screening them from her because she did get overwhelmed. We have narrowed "the list" down to conference, community size, a few regions of the country and are going with a large university and its inherent flexibility. That's still a great many schools, since she really doesn't know where she wants her education to take her- rightly so at 14 when it really should still be a game.

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Thank you 608. I am not about to pop a blood vessel, but many of us were not prepared to manage 14 year olds calling unknown men on the phone, emailing back and forth between the child, college coaches, and her club coach intermediary, and also the travel every other weekend. That would be a strain for most of us "humans". Absolutely we are trying to make it enjoyable for her, but she sees it as a job for which she wasn't really ready. All of her friends in the same situation discuss how hard it is to make these phone calls my child isn't "immature". We are working hard to help her handle it all. Making a college list is challenging when the entire country is in play, you are 14 and don't know what you want to be, and 3 years from now is an unimaginable eternity. I think you are really obnoxious to be judging the way we are handling a difficult situation.

So you say why do it? We are caught up in the same mess as many others as this recruiting process starts earlier and earlier. Should we potentially open our child up to missing a great opportunity because its so early in her education? Or do we play the game as it currently allows and react to every invitation for a visit with a family meeting on the school, our child's opinion of it (which at this time may be strongly influenced by TV shows!), and the opportunity offered. I have started screening them from her because she did get overwhelmed. We have narrowed "the list" down to conference, community size, a few regions of the country and are going with a large university and its inherent flexibility. That's still a great many schools, since she really doesn't know where she wants her education to take her- rightly so at 14 when it really should still be a game.

I thought ECNL was expensive, this person is traveling every other weekend for soccer and also flying to unofficial visits

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Thank you 608. I am not about to pop a blood vessel, but many of us were not prepared to manage 14 year olds calling unknown men on the phone, emailing back and forth between the child, college coaches, and her club coach intermediary, and also the travel every other weekend. That would be a strain for most of us "humans". Absolutely we are trying to make it enjoyable for her, but she sees it as a job for which she wasn't really ready. All of her friends in the same situation discuss how hard it is to make these phone calls my child isn't "immature". We are working hard to help her handle it all. Making a college list is challenging when the entire country is in play, you are 14 and don't know what you want to be, and 3 years from now is an unimaginable eternity. I think you are really obnoxious to be judging the way we are handling a difficult situation.

So you say why do it? We are caught up in the same mess as many others as this recruiting process starts earlier and earlier. Should we potentially open our child up to missing a great opportunity because its so early in her education? Or do we play the game as it currently allows and react to every invitation for a visit with a family meeting on the school, our child's opinion of it (which at this time may be strongly influenced by TV shows!), and the opportunity offered. I have started screening them from her because she did get overwhelmed. We have narrowed "the list" down to conference, community size, a few regions of the country and are going with a large university and its inherent flexibility. That's still a great many schools, since she really doesn't know where she wants her education to take her- rightly so at 14 when it really should still be a game.

I take it you are on a U15 ECNL team and are doing all of this because ECNL is about getting a college offer. As to this correspondence, I hate to break it to you but I'm sure that most of it is just about attending their ID camps. Sorry, but that's not really interest. That's just them trying to make money. If offers are really coming in at U15, meaning she is a frosh, then she is of the top of the top. If that is the case, you have plenty of time to decide. But I suspect this is all just trying to get coaches to come see her play at her the showcases. If this is indeed the case, then you are allowing her undue pressure and are not doing a good job managing the process for her. Remember, in the end you don't need 15-20 offers. 3 or 4 at schools she is really interested in attending is plenty and is more than manageable. Stop stressing out your dd and stop allowing the pressure of the ECNL club and coaches to contact hundreds of coaches to stress her out. Sheesh, step in and help her out a little.

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I thought ECNL was expensive, this person is traveling every other weekend for soccer and also flying to unofficial visits

And he wonders why his daughter is stressed out.

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I take it you are on a U15 ECNL team and are doing all of this because ECNL is about getting a college offer. As to this correspondence, I hate to break it to you but I'm sure that most of it is just about attending their ID camps. Sorry, but that's not really interest. That's just them trying to make money. If offers are really coming in at U15, meaning she is a frosh, then she is of the top of the top. If that is the case, you have plenty of time to decide. But I suspect this is all just trying to get coaches to come see her play at her the showcases. If this is indeed the case, then you are allowing her undue pressure and are not doing a good job managing the process for her. Remember, in the end you don't need 15-20 offers. 3 or 4 at schools she is really interested in attending is plenty and is more than manageable. Stop stressing out your dd and stop allowing the pressure of the ECNL club and coaches to contact hundreds of coaches to stress her out. Sheesh, step in and help her out a little.

My daughter was invited to an unofficial visit the same weekend that they were holding an iD camp. She asked ahead if they wanted her to attend the iD camp and there reply was it wasn't necessary. She received an offer during the same weekend as their iD camp and never attended. They said their iD camp was a great moneymaker for their program

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My daughter was invited to an unofficial visit the same weekend that they were holding an iD camp. She asked ahead if they wanted her to attend the iD camp and there reply was it wasn't necessary. She received an offer during the same weekend as their iD camp and never attended. They said their iD camp was a great moneymaker for their program

Yep. That's what they are for a majority of the players who go to them. Although my dd got an offer based partly on attending one. And for another, they wanted her to come so they could take a final look at her before giving an offer, which they did.

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Thank you 608. I am not about to pop a blood vessel, but many of us were not prepared to manage 14 year olds calling unknown men on the phone, emailing back and forth between the child, college coaches, and her club coach intermediary, and also the travel every other weekend. That would be a strain for most of us "humans". Absolutely we are trying to make it enjoyable for her, but she sees it as a job for which she wasn't really ready. All of her friends in the same situation discuss how hard it is to make these phone calls my child isn't "immature". We are working hard to help her handle it all. Making a college list is challenging when the entire country is in play, you are 14 and don't know what you want to be, and 3 years from now is an unimaginable eternity. I think you are really obnoxious to be judging the way we are handling a difficult situation.

So you say why do it? We are caught up in the same mess as many others as this recruiting process starts earlier and earlier. Should we potentially open our child up to missing a great opportunity because its so early in her education? Or do we play the game as it currently allows and react to every invitation for a visit with a family meeting on the school, our child's opinion of it (which at this time may be strongly influenced by TV shows!), and the opportunity offered. I have started screening them from her because she did get overwhelmed. We have narrowed "the list" down to conference, community size, a few regions of the country and are going with a large university and its inherent flexibility. That's still a great many schools, since she really doesn't know where she wants her education to take her- rightly so at 14 when it really should still be a game.

Your dd keeps changing ages. First she was 15. Now she is 14. How does that work? Oh wait, troll alert.

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Thank you 608. I am not about to pop a blood vessel, but many of us were not prepared to manage 14 year olds calling unknown men on the phone, emailing back and forth between the child, college coaches, and her club coach intermediary, and also the travel every other weekend. That would be a strain for most of us "humans". Absolutely we are trying to make it enjoyable for her, but she sees it as a job for which she wasn't really ready. All of her friends in the same situation discuss how hard it is to make these phone calls my child isn't "immature". We are working hard to help her handle it all. Making a college list is challenging when the entire country is in play, you are 14 and don't know what you want to be, and 3 years from now is an unimaginable eternity. I think you are really obnoxious to be judging the way we are handling a difficult situation.

So you say why do it? We are caught up in the same mess as many others as this recruiting process starts earlier and earlier. Should we potentially open our child up to missing a great opportunity because its so early in her education? Or do we play the game as it currently allows and react to every invitation for a visit with a family meeting on the school, our child's opinion of it (which at this time may be strongly influenced by TV shows!), and the opportunity offered. I have started screening them from her because she did get overwhelmed. We have narrowed "the list" down to conference, community size, a few regions of the country and are going with a large university and its inherent flexibility. That's still a great many schools, since she really doesn't know where she wants her education to take her- rightly so at 14 when it really should still be a game.

It sounds like you are on the right path and she will find the right fit. My only advice is (not that you asked for any), is that now that she has narrowed down the region, type of school, hopefully level of conference, and maybe even general type of degree (liberal arts vs tech, etc), I would advice NOT going to every visit offered. It costs them nothing and so easy to offer a visit. Just going by experience here, but perfectly okay for her to ask, " my parents want me to limit unofficial visits to schools I am really interested in, you're one of my top choices, how serious are you about me?" This is when they can let her know if they are ready to move forward or if they " need to see her play again"! Unless a school was serious, and it was on her shortlist, we didn't buy a ticket. First few visits help her learn what she wants, after that it should be about closing the deal.

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It sounds like you are on the right path and she will find the right fit. My only advice is (not that you asked for any), is that now that she has narrowed down the region, type of school, hopefully level of conference, and maybe even general type of degree (liberal arts vs tech, etc), I would advice NOT going to every visit offered. It costs them nothing and so easy to offer a visit. Just going by experience here, but perfectly okay for her to ask, " my parents want me to limit unofficial visits to schools I am really interested in, you're one of my top choices, how serious are you about me?" This is when they can let her know if they are ready to move forward or if they " need to see her play again"! Unless a school was serious, and it was on her shortlist, we didn't buy a ticket. First few visits help her learn what she wants, after that it should be about closing the deal.

I think you are responding to a troll. His daughter keeps changing ages. However, it's good advice and I agree with what you said. Just go on the visits where it makes sense. We did a very small number but they were to schools that exactly met my dd's wish list and we received offers from all of them. During one that required a flight, we took the opportunity to visit a handful of other schools that were an easy drive so that we could compare. We were fortunate in that one school we visited was having a practice that started soon after we arrived so we could sit and watch the practice and how the coach interacted with the players. It told us a lot about that coach. All of the schools were very different and it solidified her choice type and size of school. That she got an offer from the school that asked for her to visit was the icing. And she met a couple of girls from other states that we eventually played in tournaments, so that was also a plus.

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I think you are responding to a troll. His daughter keeps changing ages. However, it's good advice and I agree with what you said. Just go on the visits where it makes sense. We did a very small number but they were to schools that exactly met my dd's wish list and we received offers from all of them. During one that required a flight, we took the opportunity to visit a handful of other schools that were an easy drive so that we could compare. We were fortunate in that one school we visited was having a practice that started soon after we arrived so we could sit and watch the practice and how the coach interacted with the players. It told us a lot about that coach. All of the schools were very different and it solidified her choice type and size of school. That she got an offer from the school that asked for her to visit was the icing. And she met a couple of girls from other states that we eventually played in tournaments, so that was also a plus.

You're the troll. That was perhaps the most boring Capt. Obvious story I've ever read. I'm frankly astonished I finished it. The good news is that of your daughter is half as boring as you, you will absolutely not have to worry about college boys anytime soon.