It's going to be a painfully long year 😔

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I think re-evaluating every year for any club soccer team, whether ECNL or not is appropriate. It is a big commitment financially and a big commitment time wise for the player, assessing if it is the right fit before the next tryouts should always be happening.

My point is not that it's the right fit, but that she is doing it for the right reason. I never had to do that with my dd as she always wanted to play on a high team and was focused on challenging herself. I didn't push at all, I just wrote the checks and drove her to practice until she got her license.

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I'm not saying she is that good, I'm saying that I would want her to not feel compelled to go to a school that she isn't crazy about, just because they offer her a ride. My hope is that she decides to expand her horizon and go to school outside of Oregon. She is an excellent student and I have saved for tuition, so we are fortunate not to have soccer dictate her choices. Maybe she decides not to even play in college, maybe she's not good enough?

I get what you are saying, soccer is not everything, and I agree! However, if she wants to play soccer and get a great education, there probably is a place for her. It takes patience and a willingness to work at it. Not every kids will want it and that is okay. It are those that think PAC12 or nothing are the ones that might be in for a surprise, but if she is open to finding the right fit for her academically and soccer, even if that is on the east coast at a D3 school or an honors college at a smaller D1 that she just loves, then she will be happy and that is what matters!

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I'm not saying she is that good, I'm saying that I would want her to not feel compelled to go to a school that she isn't crazy about, just because they offer her a ride. My hope is that she decides to expand her horizon and go to school outside of Oregon. She is an excellent student and I have saved for tuition, so we are fortunate not to have soccer dictate her choices. Maybe she decides not to even play in college, maybe she's not good enough?

Of course no one should choose a school for the wrong reason. But then again, how do you know that her dream school (even if it includes soccer) is where she will be happy? You don't really know until you get there. I'm sure a lot of people end up with a lower choice school because of circumstances but when graduation comes around they are saying they had a great four years and are happy things worked out the way they did. My daughter got her dream school and she will play soccer there. The coach is great, the school is good academically, the size is what she wanted, they offer what she thinks she wants to major in and everything else seems great to her. I'm pretty sure it will be great for her, but I may get the call next year saying "I hate it here."

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My point is not that it's the right fit, but that she is doing it for the right reason. I never had to do that with my dd as she always wanted to play on a high team and was focused on challenging herself. I didn't push at all, I just wrote the checks and drove her to practice until she got her license.

So then it was the right fit, got it.

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I agree with you, that is just ignorance speaking. It takes a lot to get serious interest from a PAC12 school, event the Oregon ones. Most of those schools gets several hundred emails a week, every week! There are plenty of kids that would be honored to have the opportunity to play PAC12 AND study there as well, honors college is always an option for the more serious student. Just humorous that someone knocks it as if it were garbage and no one values the education OSU provides. The truth is many do.....

I graduated from OSU and if my kid had the option of getting a partial scholarship playing at OSU / UofO verses going to Penn or Stanford, etc. were they would not be playing, they would to go the better school. They would only see a soccer ball in pick up matches and rec. leagues.

Only about 5 - 10 kids go D1 every year. Most end up paying to play at the local D3 schools.

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I graduated from OSU and if my kid had the option of getting a partial scholarship playing at OSU / UofO verses going to Penn or Stanford, etc. were they would not be playing, they would to go the better school. They would only see a soccer ball in pick up matches and rec. leagues.

Only about 5 - 10 kids go D1 every year. Most end up paying to play at the local D3 schools.

However, ECNL willl open up the number of colleges and the available selection much more then before.

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However, ECNL willl open up the number of colleges and the available selection much more then before.

You sure about that? Show the data. And the data isn't the number of coaches at events. The data is the number and range of offers and more importantly the number of ECNL players committing. If PDX is suddenly putting more girls into college programs than before, I will buy it. Until then, it's just ECNL parents trying to justify the high costs.

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You sure about that? Show the data. And the data isn't the number of coaches at events. The data is the number and range of offers and more importantly the number of ECNL players committing. If PDX is suddenly putting more girls into college programs than before, I will buy it. Until then, it's just ECNL parents trying to justify the high costs.

The data is out there and has been posted dozens of times. 90% of ECNL players play in college. Stop being such a retard.

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The data is out there and has been posted dozens of times. 90% of ECNL players play in college. Stop being such a retard.

And those same players, even without ECNL, were getting those offers. Retard.

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And those same players, even without ECNL, were getting those offers. Retard.

Key word in your sentence is *were*. It's so much easier to recruit when you can see multiple prospects in one weekend. Women's soccer coaches have limited funds, they are not going hundreds of miles to see one girl playing in an OYSA match in Medford. That's why, over the past 5 - 10 years only a few girls would play college outside the northwest. This will begin to change. It's only been one year. Don't get your undies in a bunch.

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If PDX is suddenly putting more girls into college programs than before, I will buy it. Until then, it's just ECNL parents trying to justify the high costs.

as long as it is them paying the high costs, they have nothing to justify.
You choose not to pay the higher costs, your choice. You do not need to justify that.
They choose to pay the expense for the additional exposure. Their choice. Their money. They do not need to justify that.

I don't think you can argue the fact that the ECNL players have more opportunity to be exposed to college coaches. Whether that equates to more offers is a totally different issue. But the bottom line is that as long as they are footing the bill, they have nothing to justify.

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Key word in your sentence is *were*. It's so much easier to recruit when you can see multiple prospects in one weekend. Women's soccer coaches have limited funds, they are not going hundreds of miles to see one girl playing in an OYSA match in Medford. That's why, over the past 5 - 10 years only a few girls would play college outside the northwest. This will begin to change. It's only been one year. Don't get your undies in a bunch.

Bingo. No matter how angry these TA retards get this fact remains true. Top players in Oregon are consolidating to these teams. CU and FCP are doing exactly what people have whined about for years.

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Bingo. No matter how angry these TA retards get this fact remains true. Top players in Oregon are consolidating to these teams. CU and FCP are doing exactly what people have whined about for years.

And your daughter is doing what your wife did years ago, servicing the football team every weekend.

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I think it's hard to argue that ecnl will give them more exposure and exposure to colleges well outside of our region. Now, whether they want MORE of our Oregon girls or not will be the question.

The girls will be playing in a league that gives them high quality games, tough competition and a speed of play that is above the level of OYSA, does this improve them enough to succeed in college? Coaching remains the same as pre ecnl, so whether that is of high enough caliber is still out for debate. Do we have a large enough pool that we will win ecnl national championships, probably not, but does the high caliber league and more exposure help get more Oregon girls playing after HS? We shall see.

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And your daughter is doing what your wife did years ago, servicing the football team every weekend.

That's my line. Come up with your own material you dolt.