OYSA convinces OPL to shut down their Fall league

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It goes to the coaches who are spending double the amount of time training the players. About $10K per team divided by 2 coaches seems pretty fair.

If your U12 team is really good then you will spend several thousand dollars travelling to tournaments. If it's not, then you'll stay local. Nothing surprising about that.

it isn't possible for them to spend double the amount of time training as we were already training 3 days a week prior to join the ecnl and you know what does make sense is if we have to pay for their time for these 3 Day weekend trips when they are away from town.

Is that the case or does all this money go somewhere else

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That might be a little bonus we could charge extra for. Soccer mom photos to help you choose who to play. Could be a big seller!

This might actually united Oregon soccer!


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It goes to the coaches who are spending double the amount of time training the players. About $10K per team divided by 2 coaches seems pretty fair.

If your U12 team is really good then you will spend several thousand dollars travelling to tournaments. If it's not, then you'll stay local. Nothing surprising about that.

FC Portland teams also pay for their team managers' travel expenses.

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FC Portland teams also pay for their team managers' travel expenses.

As they should. The team manager has the biggest work load organizing the travel, chaperoning the kids, ensuring they get where they're supposed to be, get fed, get sleep, etc. If you did the job, you'd take the free hotel room (airfare and food aren't paid for) too.

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CU & FC PDX signed up 10 girls teams for the ECNL league, 5 FC + 5 CU =10
Clearly you can't do addition of small numbers.

There is no such thing as an ECNL affiliation, all players and clubs must be card carrying members of USYS or US Club to play. Whatever leagues, tournaments or showcases a team plays in, is a team by team choice.

On the other hand the DA & GDA are run by the National team branch of US Soccer do not affiliate with the USYS or US Club Soccer infrastructure and are not allowed to compete in those parent groups leagues, tournaments or showcases.

The fees paid to any club in the area have not been evidenced to go up 50% since the OPL folded. Have no idea what you are talking about, please breakdown an increase in club fees of 50% over the last 3 years, haven't seen any data to support this claim.

Quick history 8 local clubs form their own league, 4 of those clubs vote out 3 of these clubs and quickly the 4 remaining clubs come back to the OYSA following the 3 clubs they booted. Pretty quick and seamless movement.

Considering GW is the President/GM of Soccer for Portland Timbers his salary should be higher than a DOC of a local club.

Cony is the DOC for WST and John is the Operations Director for WST these two according to the public 990 tax returns are near the bottom of salaries of the 8 founding OPC members.

You did get something right, the GDA has nothing to do with the OYSA.

Lies lies lies.

Don't combine FCP's 5 teams and CU's 5 teams. They are independent clubs. Each club has 5 ECNL teams. You're demonstrating your ignorance here.

USYS runs the GDA. Understand how FIFA works.

OPL fees used to be $700. Now they are $900. It's not a 50% increase but it is significant. ODP is still not subsidized. Where is this money going? Who's pockets are getting lined here?

GW is nothing more than a local DOC who blows Merrit for a higher wage. He has no more experience or qualifications than any other DOC in Oregon.

DOC pay is not just the salary paid what is specified on tax returns. They also get bonuses that are tracked on separate lines in the GL.

The TA clubs were kicked out after they left the OPL which created a conflict of interest. They also stopped all communication and failed to attend OPL board meetings even when John Bain was still president.

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CU & FC PDX signed up 10 girls teams for the ECNL league, 5 FC + 5 CU =10
Clearly you can't do addition of small numbers.

There is no such thing as an ECNL affiliation, all players and clubs must be card carrying members of USYS or US Club to play. Whatever leagues, tournaments or showcases a team plays in, is a team by team choice.

On the other hand the DA & GDA are run by the National team branch of US Soccer do not affiliate with the USYS or US Club Soccer infrastructure and are not allowed to compete in those parent groups leagues, tournaments or showcases.

The fees paid to any club in the area have not been evidenced to go up 50% since the OPL folded. Have no idea what you are talking about, please breakdown an increase in club fees of 50% over the last 3 years, haven't seen any data to support this claim.

Quick history 8 local clubs form their own league, 4 of those clubs vote out 3 of these clubs and quickly the 4 remaining clubs come back to the OYSA following the 3 clubs they booted. Pretty quick and seamless movement.

Considering GW is the President/GM of Soccer for Portland Timbers his salary should be higher than a DOC of a local club.

Cony is the DOC for WST and John is the Operations Director for WST these two according to the public 990 tax returns are near the bottom of salaries of the 8 founding OPC members.

You did get something right, the GDA has nothing to do with the OYSA.

Who's paying you to post this bullsh!t?

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Lies lies lies.

Don't combine FCP's 5 teams and CU's 5 teams. They are independent clubs. Each club has 5 ECNL teams. You're demonstrating your ignorance here.

5teams + 5teams =10 teams, sorry if reflects ignorance.

[/QUOTE]USYS runs the GDA. Understand how FIFA works.[/QUOTE]
Nope it's called the U.S. Soccer Development Academy, not the USYS GDA.
Sorry you don't understand this simple fact.

[/QUOTE]OPL fees used to be $700. Now they are $900. It's not a 50% increase but it is significant. ODP is still not subsidized. Where is this money going? Who's pockets are getting lined here?[/QUOTE] Just a guess, to the league scheduling 3rd party? To the referees? to the referee assignor? To the Timbers Youth Sporting Director? Website fees? Bonzi Software platform for standings/schedules? Medals, trophies? Liability Insurance? Coaching education? Rent for office space? Phones? Electricity? Heat? OYSA staffers? OYSA agm's etc.etc.

[/QUOTE]GW is nothing more than a local DOC who blows Merrit for a higher wage. He has no more experience or qualifications than any other DOC in Oregon.[/QUOTE] Prior to 2010 this fits the bill, today he is President/GM of the Portland Timbers.

[/QUOTE]DOC pay is not just the salary paid what is specified on tax returns. They also get bonuses that are tracked on separate lines in the GL.[/QUOTE] If you know how to access the non-profit books via public request, you can see all of this.

[/QUOTE]The TA clubs were kicked out after they left the OPL which created a conflict of interest. They also stopped all communication and failed to attend OPL board meetings even when John Bain was still president.[/QUOTE] Hadn't heard this theory. Try again.

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Teams that joined the ECNL after the OPL folded did experience a 300% to 500% increase in their club fees. From a pre-Ecnl club fee of 2K to the current amount of 8K to 10K.

That's dramatic and insane.

You guys must be getting paid to post this garbage. Club fees are different than travel fees. Successful Oregon teams have always travelled and total cost was higher.

Common sense....

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Who's paying you to post this bullsh!t?

OSCFC

Oregon Soccer Citizens Fact Committee , created in 2014.

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5teams + 5teams =10 teams, sorry if reflects ignorance.

USYS runs the GDA. Understand how FIFA works.[/QUOTE]
Nope it's called the U.S. Soccer Development Academy, not the USYS GDA.
Sorry you don't understand this simple fact.

[/QUOTE]OPL fees used to be $700. Now they are $900. It's not a 50% increase but it is significant. ODP is still not subsidized. Where is this money going? Who's pockets are getting lined here?[/QUOTE] Just a guess, to the league scheduling 3rd party? To the referees? to the referee assignor? To the Timbers Youth Sporting Director? Website fees? Bonzi Software platform for standings/schedules? Medals, trophies? Liability Insurance? Coaching education? Rent for office space? Phones? Electricity? Heat? OYSA staffers? OYSA agm's etc.etc.

[/QUOTE]GW is nothing more than a local DOC who blows Merrit for a higher wage. He has no more experience or qualifications than any other DOC in Oregon.[/QUOTE] Prior to 2010 this fits the bill, today he is President/GM of the Portland Timbers.

[/QUOTE]DOC pay is not just the salary paid what is specified on tax returns. They also get bonuses that are tracked on separate lines in the GL.[/QUOTE] If you know how to access the non-profit books via public request, you can see all of this.

[/QUOTE]The TA clubs were kicked out after they left the OPL which created a conflict of interest. They also stopped all communication and failed to attend OPL board meetings even when John Bain was still president.[/QUOTE] Hadn't heard this theory. Try again.[/QUOTE]

More lies. You must work for the Timbers. What happened with the TA clubs and OPL is fact.

It's interesting how a unified and larger OYSA requires higher margins from each registered team to operate. Ever heard of economies of scale? It is costs and is proof the Timbers are fleecing Oregon youth soccer.

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USYS runs the GDA. Understand how FIFA works.

Nope it's called the U.S. Soccer Development Academy, not the USYS GDA.
Sorry you don't understand this simple fact.

OPL fees used to be $700. Now they are $900. It's not a 50% increase but it is significant. ODP is still not subsidized. Where is this money going? Who's pockets are getting lined here?

Just a guess, to the league scheduling 3rd party? To the referees? to the referee assignor? To the Timbers Youth Sporting Director? Website fees? Bonzi Software platform for standings/schedules? Medals, trophies? Liability Insurance? Coaching education? Rent for office space? Phones? Electricity? Heat? OYSA staffers? OYSA agm's etc.etc.

GW is nothing more than a local DOC who blows Merrit for a higher wage. He has no more experience or qualifications than any other DOC in Oregon.

Prior to 2010 this fits the bill, today he is President/GM of the Portland Timbers.

DOC pay is not just the salary paid what is specified on tax returns. They also get bonuses that are tracked on separate lines in the GL.

If you know how to access the non-profit books via public request, you can see all of this.

The TA clubs were kicked out after they left the OPL which created a conflict of interest. They also stopped all communication and failed to attend OPL board meetings even when John Bain was still president.

Hadn't heard this theory. Try again.

More lies. You must work for the Timbers. What happened with the TA clubs and OPL is fact.

Sorry the names of the clubs booted without cause: were Westside Metros, Eastside United & Portland City United. So nothing ever happened to any so called TA clubs, at the time of booting these clubs were named Timbers & PCU has never been named Timbers.. Please breathe and figure out what really happened and stop making up stuff.

It's interesting how a unified and larger OYSA requires higher margins from each registered team to operate. Ever heard of economies of scale? It is costs and is proof the Timbers are fleecing Oregon youth soccer.

The OPL had no overhead or oversight so the margins they created were done in a vacuum. Ever heard of running things out of a shack to save $$ and increase profits, in the OPL setup the customers paid for the fields and the administration of the league. Not so in the real world.

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OSCFC

Oregon Soccer Citizens Fact Committee , created in 2014.

You should check your facts. You are wrong.

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Nope it's called the U.S. Soccer Development Academy, not the USYS GDA.
Sorry you don't understand this simple fact.

Just a guess, to the league scheduling 3rd party? To the referees? to the referee assignor? To the Timbers Youth Sporting Director? Website fees? Bonzi Software platform for standings/schedules? Medals, trophies? Liability Insurance? Coaching education? Rent for office space? Phones? Electricity? Heat? OYSA staffers? OYSA agm's etc.etc.

Prior to 2010 this fits the bill, today he is President/GM of the Portland Timbers.

If you know how to access the non-profit books via public request, you can see all of this.

Hadn't heard this theory. Try again.


Sorry the names of the clubs booted without cause: were Westside Metros, Eastside United & Portland City United. So nothing ever happened to any so called TA clubs, at the time of booting these clubs were named Timbers & PCU has never been named Timbers.. Please breathe and figure out what really happened and stop making up stuff.

The OPL had no overhead or oversight so the margins they created were done in a vacuum. Ever heard of running things out of a shack to save $$ and increase profits, in the OPL setup the customers paid for the fields and the administration of the league. Not so in the real world.

More lies. WST, EST and PCU were voted out per OPL bylaws due to their conflict of interest, leaving the OPL, and total failure to participate (they failed to attend any meetings or communicate). In fact the OPL delayed the vote trying to get anyone from those clubs to come. None would.

OPL did amass a sizable account with the fees they charged. It was always transparent because the OPL is a non profit. Now OYSA charges $200 and up MORE per team. Where is that money going? The money is NOT transparent because it flows through the FOR PROFIT Timbers.

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More lies. WST, EST and PCU were voted out per OPL bylaws due to their conflict of interest, leaving the OPL, and total failure to participate (they failed to attend any meetings or communicate). In fact the OPL delayed the vote trying to get anyone from those clubs to come. None would.

OPL did amass a sizable account with the fees they charged. It was always transparent because the OPL is a non profit. Now OYSA charges $200 and up MORE per team. Where is that money going? The money is NOT transparent because it flows through the FOR PROFIT Timbers.

Westside Metros, Eastside United and PCU were booted by SSC, LOSC, FC PDX & THUSC. This is a fact.

OPL ran the league with all volunteers, so the fees should of been even lower. As the clubs were paying all the DOC's during there time spent with the OPL enterprise. Sadly, the OPL didn't lower fees and make it an even more reasonable fee for the Clubs. But they didn't and stockpiled hundreds of thousands of dollars without any redistribution to the clubs who overpaid for the services upon dissolution. F--Uped and transparent.

BTW OPL is not a 501c3 for the record.

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Westside Metros, Eastside United and PCU were booted by SSC, LOSC, FC PDX & THUSC. This is a fact.

OPL ran the league with all volunteers, so the fees should of been even lower. As the clubs were paying all the DOC's during there time spent with the OPL enterprise. Sadly, the OPL didn't lower fees and make it an even more reasonable fee for the Clubs. But they didn't and stockpiled hundreds of thousands of dollars without any redistribution to the clubs who overpaid for the services upon dissolution. F--Uped and transparent.

BTW OPL is not a 501c3 for the record.

You continue to ignore WHY those clubs were voted out. There was a legitimate reason.

The OPL had 2 paid employees running the league. More lies. There is absolutely no honest reason teams are paying $200 more per season to The Timbers. Oops... I mean OYSA.