Wa Timbers High School Boys

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the actual net number is 87

The actual net number is over 250 in Advanced Comp. Might be only 87 if you include Rec. This was communicated to all of the coaches and managers shortly after the decision was made to fire the GM and DoCs.

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US Youth Soccer Cirriculum:

I would hope your club is following this:

http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/st...?story_id=6415

http://www.vysa.com/docs/coaches/US_...ment_Model.pdf

although not many clubs are following it.

So you believe that a bunch of honkies at US Youth Soccer know anything about development? Truth is they don't have any more clues than anybody else. When someone comes up with a solution that is proven be far better than any other solution we should jump on board. But not until then. And right now, my theory is as good as your theory is as good as US Youth Soccer's theory. Nobody knows if their development model will work or not. So why should everyone follow it? Wouldn't it be better to try many different possible solutions and actually look at which ones get the best results over time?

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In RCL you cant move players up and down between teams. You can bring up a guest player from your B team but an A team player cant play on the B team, its done to stop B teams being loaded with A team players something Xfire Seattle used to do with their B team in RCL.

In these cases there are still ways to do an academy system. In the entire year you do the academy system outside of RCL league season. When its time to finalize your roster you pick your A team player who are going to be there regardless whether thats 8-12 players. But for this example lets use 11 A team player. Those will always be on that roster, then you set your B team with 22 players or however much is left. And you use guest players every week to move the players who earn their way up. you only need to do it this way for a couple months, as the rest of the year you can still train and work together and enter whatever rosters you see fit to enter for everything else.

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So you believe that a bunch of honkies at US Youth Soccer know anything about development? Truth is they don't have any more clues than anybody else. When someone comes up with a solution that is proven be far better than any other solution we should jump on board. But not until then. And right now, my theory is as good as your theory is as good as US Youth Soccer's theory. Nobody knows if their development model will work or not. So why should everyone follow it? Wouldn't it be better to try many different possible solutions and actually look at which ones get the best results over time?

Absolutely not.
We should follow what the rest of the work is doing.
Take a look at our female model....we are failing at the women's game.
France took apart a very athletic US Women's team that was playing the same style of play that they played in the world cups they won in the '90's

Europe is sooooooo far ahead of us is sickening and the more that people think like you the farther we fall behind.

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Absolutely not.
We should follow what the rest of the work is doing.
Take a look at our female model....we are failing at the women's game.
France took apart a very athletic US Women's team that was playing the same style of play that they played in the world cups they won in the '90's

Europe is sooooooo far ahead of us is sickening and the more that people think like you the farther we fall behind.

You are such a rube!!!! The US women have not finished worse then 3rd since the womens world cup started. How has France finished? One forth place finish. I would say that puts them sooooooooo far ahead of the US.

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Lol

You are such a rube!!!! The US women have not finished worse then 3rd since the womens world cup started. How has France finished? One forth place finish. I would say that puts them sooooooooo far ahead of the US.

Well being European I would say that yes the US women are better then France but football (soccer) is a mans game over there so thats where you should compare yourselves.

I agree with the other post that said you're are miles or should I say Kilometers behind Europe at football. That why Jürgen Klinsmann is trying to change it from the top down. I dont see much change yet but something has to give soon.

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To show The Gap

Just to put something into the mix the new FIFA rankings came out today and the USMNT dropped down the rankings.

http://m.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/

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Why No Posting????

Looking at the Washington Timbers website you wouldnt know that all 3 of their U15 boys teams had made it to the semi-finals of their Washington State Cups.

I guess we should read from this that only the U10/11/12 teams boys/girls are whats important to the new elite team of coaches.

I for one want to congratulate all three teams on there efforts and hope that they can move on to the final and win.

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FB

Looking at the Washington Timbers website you wouldnt know that all 3 of their U15 boys teams had made it to the semi-finals of their Washington State Cups.

I guess we should read from this that only the U10/11/12 teams boys/girls are whats important to the new elite team of coaches.

I for one want to congratulate all three teams on there efforts and hope that they can move on to the final and win.

They posted an update using Facebook, and they supported that with a blurb in the Columbian with a piece written by Danzer.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2015/f...championships/

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They posted an update using Facebook, and they supported that with a blurb in the Columbian with a piece written by Danzer.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2015/f...championships/

Thanks for that link to Facebook. I never even knew that they had a Facebook page. It's certainly not obvious from the website.

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So you believe that a bunch of honkies at US Youth Soccer know anything about development? Truth is they don't have any more clues than anybody else. When someone comes up with a solution that is proven be far better than any other solution we should jump on board. But not until then. And right now, my theory is as good as your theory is as good as US Youth Soccer's theory. Nobody knows if their development model will work or not. So why should everyone follow it? Wouldn't it be better to try many different possible solutions and actually look at which ones get the best results over time?

Absolutely not.
We should follow what the rest of the work is doing.
Take a look at our female model....we are failing at the women's game.
France took apart a very athletic US Women's team that was playing the same style of play that they played in the world cups they won in the '90's

Europe is sooooooo far ahead of us is sickening and the more that people think like you the farther we fall behind.

I've studied US Soccer's curriculum, used some of it . . . think it provides a solid framework . . . but it does not and cannot replace the craft in coaching. Old lunatics who have studied, lived, breathed the game for decades . . . would rather have one of those guys coach my kids that some junior genius straight out of his Y cert espousing the latest and greatest proclamations from on-high.

In terms of a club curriculum, there are US clubswho try to model after Ajax, or Barca, or Inter Milan, still others who follow 3four3 in lieu of or in addition to US Soccer's curriculum . . . hard to argue with the success of many of the teams that follow those frameworks.

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I've studied US Soccer's curriculum, used some of it . . . think it provides a solid framework . . . but it does not and cannot replace the craft in coaching. Old lunatics who have studied, lived, breathed the game for decades . . . would rather have one of those guys coach my kids that some junior genius straight out of his Y cert espousing the latest and greatest proclamations from on-high.

In terms of a club curriculum, there are US clubswho try to model after Ajax, or Barca, or Inter Milan, still others who follow 3four3 in lieu of or in addition to US Soccer's curriculum . . . hard to argue with the success of many of the teams that follow those frameworks.

There are many many different, and "correct" ways to develop soccer players. We will be better off in the long run to allow the experimentation to continue. There is no way that the people at high levels in US Soccer have a monopoly on "correct". They have one theory out of many but they do have considerable leverage to force their theory on the masses.

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There are many many different, and "correct" ways to develop soccer players. We will be better off in the long run to allow the experimentation to continue. There is no way that the people at high levels in US Soccer have a monopoly on "correct". They have one theory out of many but they do have considerable leverage to force their theory on the masses.

Agreed! Think within a club there are advantages to consistency in approach and I think it is fair to ask a club what their curriculum is and where it comes from. US Soccer's curriculum is but one reasonable answer.

At an individual coach level though, a manual isn't going to replace craft.

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Agreed! Think within a club there are advantages to consistency in approach and I think it is fair to ask a club what their curriculum is and where it comes from. US Soccer's curriculum is but one reasonable answer.

At an individual coach level though, a manual isn't going to replace craft.

We need to be careful about what we expect of a curriculum. A curriculum should express the types of things taught, and the order/age in which their taught. It may not do much more than that.

You still need a good coach, and people will have to train to be coaches.

A curriculum will never exist that a new coach can read it once and all of a sudden be a good coach. A curriculum can provide consistency. The coach will always be the main ingredient.

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Structure

At this point, isn't it obvious that structure is not just needed, but necessary?

We have an extreme lack of experience, and until we have experienced coaches, and board members, we are all better off emulating successful programs from abroad or even locally.

At the moment we have far too many non-soccer types at the board level. If you look across these boards here in Clark County they are populated with "beer league" types or delusional parents that actually think they can coach at a high level after having purchased season tickets to the NEW MLS Timbers. The delusional parent coach, wins games because the team has talented players, often being coached "down". Now if you're one of these coaches you'll take a BIG swipe at me for even saying this, however it's the truth.

Culturally too many Americans think *soccer* is a simple sport that you just try and kick a ball into the opposing teams goal. During training they are unable to explain the technical issues clearly during training and this lack of experience and understanding of the nuances of the game, in turn creates serious short and long term problems for the player and eventually creates issues for the team.

For now, we need something that makes current coaches feel like they're supported by the club. Kids need structure and continuity, which a curriculum would provide.

Hopefully, BJ does what a DoC is supposed to do, leads and gives the club purpose and structure by doing what is soo long overdue.