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    as I have been thinking more about this topic I am wondering how it will work for the kids who are currently in the u13 (so 01's and 02's) group. As it sits right now our team has 2 kids in 8th grade (August birthday's) and the rest are 7th, if things stay as they are missing two kids for fall season some of the time isn't that huge of a deal.

    But if things switch to birth year, you add a bunch more kids to the group that are going into high school. How will that work? Will the 01 kids not play a fall season of club? Traditionally clubs take fall off so kids can play with their high school teams correct? (not there yet still trying to figure all this out)

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      as I have been thinking more about this topic I am wondering how it will work for the kids who are currently in the u13 (so 01's and 02's) group. As it sits right now our team has 2 kids in 8th grade (August birthday's) and the rest are 7th, if things stay as they are missing two kids for fall season some of the time isn't that huge of a deal.

      But if things switch to birth year, you add a bunch more kids to the group that are going into high school. How will that work? Will the 01 kids not play a fall season of club? Traditionally clubs take fall off so kids can play with their high school teams correct? (not there yet still trying to figure all this out)
      Today, there is a mechanism in place for kids that are playing above their grade level (ie. in 8th grade but playing U15). OPL (not sure about OYSA) allows those kids to play U14 in the fall season.

      The situation you describe is the other way around but is also relatively rare as the cutoff dates for soccer and school are pretty close together. Once you change soccer to calendar year, it gets really messy in the 8th grade / U15 year for the kids born from August to December. And for what gain? Absolutely nothing.

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        People are so afraid of change! There will be many benefits for players and for the sport in general. England is on a similar school calendar to us and switched to birth year a few years ago to help more players stay in the sport and develop better national teams. Little League changed off a school year cutoff as well. Club sports is where it's at now in the U.S. and club sports have little to do with school grade level. If your child is only in it to play with classmates, why play club? I've never heard of a player turning down a spot on an A-team or an elite team because their best friends/classmates didn't make it. The kids will be fine. Not much will change and everyone will adapt just fine. In fact, the U.S. Used to go by calendar year but switched when the rest of the world switched. When most switched back to calendar year, the U.S. didn't and we are falling behind.

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          All AAU sports are birth year as well. It won't be a problem.

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            Change is ok, it's how and why it happens that's the issue. If this really happens the age group with 8th and 9th graders could really be messy.

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              If AAU teams & Little League can figure it out, I'm sure soccer clubs can too!

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                People are so afraid of change! There will be many benefits for players and for the sport in general. England is on a similar school calendar to us and switched to birth year a few years ago to help more players stay in the sport and develop better national teams. Little League changed off a school year cutoff as well. Club sports is where it's at now in the U.S. and club sports have little to do with school grade level. If your child is only in it to play with classmates, why play club? I've never heard of a player turning down a spot on an A-team or an elite team because their best friends/classmates didn't make it. The kids will be fine. Not much will change and everyone will adapt just fine. In fact, the U.S. Used to go by calendar year but switched when the rest of the world switched. When most switched back to calendar year, the U.S. didn't and we are falling behind.
                Can you tell me what the benefits are? I am not seeing any. My daughter is fairly high level talent but she has no interest in playing with just anyone. She's been playing with her friends for a long, long time.

                I don't see any down side to leaving status quo and just starting at younger ages. Maybe I'm missing something.

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                  The only rumors I've heard is for boys going to birth year. If they are going to make the change, make it for both boys and girls. Most girls teams aren't even same grade anymore. They are a combination of 2, sometimes 3 grades.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The only rumors I've heard is for boys going to birth year. If they are going to make the change, make it for both boys and girls. Most girls teams aren't even same grade anymore. They are a combination of 2, sometimes 3 grades.
                    That's because *whacked* parents either think or were made to believe that little Suzie would be better off playing older girls.

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                      Best for development is to play with similar ability players. In many cases, especially with girls, this means playing up is the best way to go. The change should be across the board or it will be a slap in the face to girls/women's soccer. "Now be a nice little girl & go play rec with your classmates...we only really care about bettering soccer for boys".

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                        I don't see how changing helps anything? My child is very young. I suppose it makes him look better because we lose the older half of the league and bring up younger kids. Not great for development though. Have to play up I guess. That seems not the best idea.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I don't see how changing helps anything? My child is very young. I suppose it makes him look better because we lose the older half of the league and bring up younger kids. Not great for development though. Have to play up I guess. That seems not the best idea.
                          This proposed change doesn't improve anything. It's just change for change's sake. US Soccer sees the national teams falling farther and farther behind (and that includes the WNT) and they don't have any clue what to do about it. So they make superficial changes, knowing full well that they will have zero impact, but hope to bamboozle the masses into thinking it's the "solution".

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            This proposed change doesn't improve anything. It's just change for change's sake. US Soccer sees the national teams falling farther and farther behind (and that includes the WNT) and they don't have any clue what to do about it. So they make superficial changes, knowing full well that they will have zero impact, but hope to bamboozle the masses into thinking it's the "solution".
                            This might be the dumbest post Ive ever read.
                            You really think that US Soccer thinks that way? I suppose you think that High School soccer is good soccer also

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                              No Big Deal

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Can you tell me what the benefits are? I am not seeing any. My daughter is fairly high level talent but she has no interest in playing with just anyone. She's been playing with her friends for a long, long time.

                              I don't see any down side to leaving status quo and just starting at younger ages. Maybe I'm missing something.
                              The benefit is every is that all programs are aligned for age groups. ODP and other National programs are on a calendar year basis. So is the rest of the world.

                              I don't see how you can just start with the younger ages, there is overlap in every age group.
                              Life goes on as they say

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                This might be the dumbest post Ive ever read.
                                You really think that US Soccer thinks that way? I suppose you think that High School soccer is good soccer also
                                Please enlighten us as to how exactly this change will improve the development of youth soccer players. Do the players suddenly get better? Do the coaches suddenly get better? Do the facilities suddenly get better? Does the curriculum suddenly get better? What improves with this change for change's sake?

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