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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    haha says the people who are putting down the thorns for not winning a league... look at us, we tied
    It's OK, the Thorns can still win OYSA winter league, maybe.

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      #32
      ?

      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So the first step towards a solution is to eliminate the Thorns Academy. Great! Let's do it. Then we'll see if there still aren't enough top players to fill two teams. Hint: there are.
      Is there players in the Thorns Academy that would make an ecnl team?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Is there players in the Thorns Academy that would make an ecnl team?
        Two or three of them.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          So the first step towards a solution is to eliminate the Thorns Academy. Great! Let's do it. Then we'll see if there still aren't enough top players to fill two teams. Hint: there are.
          cool. let's do that then.

          how many teams from oregon have won national championships? there are few out there, but if we don't have a ton. like say, cal south or tx, then there still aren't enough for two teams.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Two or three of them.
            At least. If it were really that difficult to make Oregon ECNL teams then you would have to worry that if they disbanded then your daughter might be bumped.

            Let's get real people. Neither is the perfect solution. The Thorns Academy is at least capped to an affordable price tag. The ECNL teams are currently feeling successful because they tied a NW ECNL team in NWCL so all is good with the land!!! Win win.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              So the first step towards a solution is to eliminate the Thorns Academy. Great! Let's do it. Then we'll see if there still aren't enough top players to fill two teams. Hint: there are.
              But respecting parent and player right to choice, we should only have one ECNL team and the Thorns team. There are different advantages to each model so it seems like common sense to keep the two diverse options rather than two that are essentially the same.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                But respecting parent and player right to choice, we should only have one ECNL team and the Thorns team. There are different advantages to each model so it seems like common sense to keep the two diverse options rather than two that are essentially the same.
                Let the market decide. Right now it looks like the Academy is all but finished. Probably for the best.

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                  #38
                  The Academy is just getting started and will grow.

                  I think that eventually we will have only one team from Oregon playing in the ecnl.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The Academy is just getting started and will grow.

                    I think that eventually we will have only one team from Oregon playing in the ecnl.
                    The Academy us as big as its ever going to get. Don't blink or you'll miss it.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The Academy us as big as its ever going to get. Don't blink or you'll miss it.
                      Wishful thinking from the ECNL side...

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The Academy is just getting started and will grow.

                        I think that eventually we will have only one team from Oregon playing in the ecnl.
                        Has there been any discussion of merging the two ecnl clubs? That would really help concentrate the talent.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Has there been any discussion of merging the two ecnl clubs? That would really help concentrate the talent.
                          Really? It hasn't even been a year yet. Maybe if we consolidate talent it will allow the timbers to finish higher then 3rd in FWRL?

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Has there been any discussion of merging the two ecnl clubs? That would really help concentrate the talent.
                            Why should there be? First step is to shut down the Thorns Academy. Until that happens, and the Timbers get out of youth soccer, things will continue as is.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Why should there be? First step is to shut down the Thorns Academy. Until that happens, and the Timbers get out of youth soccer, things will continue as is.
                              I don't think the Thorns have anything to do with the success or failure of ECNL. Having too many ECNL clubs in a small metro area might.

                              Thorns is not competing for the same players. In reality they are providing solid players a way of competing that doesn't break the bank. I think landing in the middle of the pack in FWRL shows that 1) they did get competition and 2) they were able to compete without even one blowout.

                              This came at a much cheaper price tag than ECNL which so far has a collective 50% win ratio against the two clubs that last year were not able to win 25% of their league games collectively. Given the cost, and using the analogy that the FWRL was a total failure then ECNL is taking that failure to all new levels at a price tag that is shocking.

                              Personally I don't really care how well the teams that my children don't participate on or compete against perform. It is not on my

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I don't think the Thorns have anything to do with the success or failure of ECNL. Having too many ECNL clubs in a small metro area might.

                                Thorns is not competing for the same players. In reality they are providing solid players a way of competing that doesn't break the bank. I think landing in the middle of the pack in FWRL shows that 1) they did get competition and 2) they were able to compete without even one blowout.

                                This came at a much cheaper price tag than ECNL which so far has a collective 50% win ratio against the two clubs that last year were not able to win 25% of their league games collectively. Given the cost, and using the analogy that the FWRL was a total failure then ECNL is taking that failure to all new levels at a price tag that is shocking.

                                Personally I don't really care how well the teams that my children don't participate on or compete against perform. It is not on my

                                They only would effect ECNL at their age group if there were some girls that could make and improve either ECNL club.

                                A 50% win ratio against teams that not able to win 25% of their league games, may or may not be a dig. One would need to look at the collective body of play / win loss of their opponents. Then one should do the same for the teams the thorns played in few games played in FWRL.

                                Cost ratios not a good way to compare. Costs are a direct relationship to how much any of the three teams traveled. Saying thorns is a cheaper alternate is simply saying they didn't really go anywhere, do anything.

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