OPL - Dead or Dying

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It is Timbers league not OYSA, you don't call the OPL US Club league. No difference, your money goes to the Timbers, OYSA simply sanctions the league and provides insurance.

Not sure how Tom has stoked up such a hatred of the Timbers over in OPL land, but you are confused. Maybe the easiest thing to do is take you for a walk into the past. If you want to pull this up for yourself search for OPL schedule fall 2012, or OPL state cup 2013. Notice the branding of the 2013 Timbers OPL state cup, or the Fall Timbers NPL divisions. It is a brand.

No club writes a check to the Timbers. All registration goes to OYSA who pays a fee agreed to in a contract to the timbers organization for league coordination.

It really isn't that complicated and despite what the PPL honchos will lead you to believe there is nothing nefarious going on. Just kids playing soccer.

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Not sure how Tom has stoked up such a hatred of the Timbers over in OPL land, but you are confused. Maybe the easiest thing to do is take you for a walk into the past. If you want to pull this up for yourself search for OPL schedule fall 2012, or OPL state cup 2013. Notice the branding of the 2013 Timbers OPL state cup, or the Fall Timbers NPL divisions. It is a brand.

No club writes a check to the Timbers. All registration goes to OYSA who pays a fee agreed to in a contract to the timbers organization for league coordination.

It really isn't that complicated and despite what the PPL honchos will lead you to believe there is nothing nefarious going on. Just kids playing soccer.

You may want to ask your club, the Timbers run the league and your club cuts the TIMBERS or Peregrine a separate check. OYSA is simply a sanctioning body, the Timbers want to keep this quiet and hide behind OYSA but they are the ones collecting the fees for the league.

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Not sure how Tom has stoked up such a hatred of the Timbers over in OPL land, but you are confused. Maybe the easiest thing to do is take you for a walk into the past. If you want to pull this up for yourself search for OPL schedule fall 2012, or OPL state cup 2013. Notice the branding of the 2013 Timbers OPL state cup, or the Fall Timbers NPL divisions. It is a brand.

No club writes a check to the Timbers. All registration goes to OYSA who pays a fee agreed to in a contract to the timbers organization for league coordination.

It really isn't that complicated and despite what the PPL honchos will lead you to believe there is nothing nefarious going on. Just kids playing soccer.

By the way, it was not simply a brand, Timbers charged the OPL 60k per year to use their branding on State Cup.

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It is a fact that most of the opl leagues are three clubs (crossfire, FCPDX and THUSC). At least OYSA has a better variety of clubs to play.

You can complain all you want about the clubs having the same kits all you want.

Your "facts" are wrong. The "Timbers" clubs make up a higher percentage of the OYSA leagues than FC/THUSC/Crossfire do of the OPL. If you can do simple math, check it out for yourself. There is MORE variety of clubs in the OPL.

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You may want to ask your club, the Timbers run the league and your club cuts the TIMBERS or Peregrine a separate check. OYSA is simply a sanctioning body, the Timbers want to keep this quiet and hide behind OYSA but they are the ones collecting the fees for the league.

I am the treasurer of a OYSA club....... we do not cut a check to the Timbers. You can take your lies back to your dying league.

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By the way, it was not simply a brand, Timbers charged the OPL 60k per year to use their branding on State Cup.

this is true and I think it is pretty costly....
but I'm pretty sure that the OPL could afford it as they had $675K in the bank at the time.

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this is true and I think it is pretty costly....
but I'm pretty sure that the OPL could afford it as they had $675K in the bank at the time.

The $60K was for more than just branding. The Timbers were supposed to deliver a complete coaching curriculum. Which they never did. They promised the same thing to all of the Alliance clubs too. Still haven't seen it. Fact is, the Timbers don't care about youth soccer, other than to make tons of money from it.

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Trust me, you are in the minority. Nearly EVERY OPL parent is just fine with the way things are. Lower cost than OYSA and a lot less travel.

I don't think you can actually be an Opl parent and say that. I am, and have talked to enough parents to stand by my statement. I'm not happy about the timbers taking over youth soccer, but I'll say it again, NO player benefits from a split league.

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I don't think you can actually be an Opl parent and say that. I am, and have talked to enough parents to stand by my statement. I'm not happy about the timbers taking over youth soccer, but I'll say it again, NO player benefits from a split league.

I would beg to differ. As an OPL parent I'm quite fine with the split league. The lower divisions don't have to drive all over oregon to play other lower level teams. The premier teams still get quality opponents and if they feel the need can switch and play spring in OYSA and for the top players there's ECNL. No is forced to play inferior teams in the far reached of the state because their doc considers them to be 'premier'. From my point of view the split is a good thing.

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I would beg to differ. As an OPL parent I'm quite fine with the split league. The lower divisions don't have to drive all over oregon to play other lower level teams. The premier teams still get quality opponents to play and if they feel the need they can switch and play spring ball in OYSA and for the top players there's ECNL. No one is forced to play inferior teams in the far reaches of the state because their doc considers them to be 'premier'. From my point of view the split is a good thing.

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I would beg to differ. As an OPL parent I'm quite fine with the split league. The lower divisions don't have to drive all over oregon to play other lower level teams. The premier teams still get quality opponents and if they feel the need can switch and play spring in OYSA and for the top players there's ECNL. No is forced to play inferior teams in the far reached of the state because their doc considers them to be 'premier'. From my point of view the split is a good thing.

Ah the stench of naïveté. If you only knew history. The idea of DOCs deciding whether a team should be premier or not was created by OPL, No team has ever been "forced" to play inferior teams in the far reaches of the state. 10 years ago Select teams were also known as travelling teams. If you wanted to stay home and play in the park, that was tec and you were welcome to it.

Obviously you have bought the OPL propaganda full force. You seem to be happy with it. Unfortunately it is definitely not "good" for the health of soccer.

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I don't think you can actually be an Opl parent and say that. I am, and have talked to enough parents to stand by my statement. I'm not happy about the timbers taking over youth soccer, but I'll say it again, NO player benefits from a split league.

Maybe no player "benefits" from the split league, but it also doesn't seem to be detrimental to any either. If it was, there wouldn't be a split league.

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Maybe no player "benefits" from the split league, but it also doesn't seem to be detrimental to any either. If it was, there wouldn't be a split league.

So do you think the split league is split to benefit the players, the parents, or the DOC's? Machiavelli was famous for the idea that if you don't want your people to pay attention to what is going on inside your borders, find an enemy on the outside to distract them with.

So who stood to lose the most by the big three going back to OYSA? None of this is about "player benefits".

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So do you think the split league is split to benefit the players, the parents, or the DOC's? Machiavelli was famous for the idea that if you don't want your people to pay attention to what is going on inside your borders, find an enemy on the outside to distract them with.

So who stood to lose the most by the big three going back to OYSA? None of this is about "player benefits".

The league was split to financially benefit the Timbers. No other reason. If the Timbers got out of youth soccer there would be no split.

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The league was split to financially benefit the Timbers. No other reason. If the Timbers got out of youth soccer there would be no split.

The timbers are worth $110 million. They did not get there on youth soccer.

No club cuts a check to the Portland Timbers.

Where are they making profits from youth soccer?
What, maybe $5k overall? After all expenses?

The OPL had $675k in the bank the day the split occurred....how come you weren't b!tching about that?

Bottom line the Portland timbers have done more for Oregon soccer in the last two years than Opl do in 6 years. More licensing opportunities is the biggest improvement. Add pushing the 7v7 at U10 and 9v9 thru u12 and that's worth every cent.

If opl had its way they would play 11v11 at u9 and up ....more players means they can make more money which would line that already fat bank account