Oregon ECNL might have a chance given how they schedule

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I don't know how many times it needs to be said but obviously about once a month when talking about the local teams inaugural ECNL season. It's NOT about the wins. It IS about development and the improvements each player, each coach and hopefully each team makes over the course of a season.

The vast majority of local players stepping up to take on the challenge of ECNL are not currently ECNL caliber players. How could they be playing in either OPL or OYSA leagues?

Few if any local players are asked to play at speed or with game IQ. Yes there are a few teams that venture out of sate that have been exposed to a faster game but that exposure is limited to a 2 or 3 tournaments. Now they will be FORCED to play fast and smart every game. Will they be up to the challenge? Not initially but if they have the desire they can speed up their play and improve their game IQ. I is the height of arrogance to assume that these ladies are going to get discouraged and pack it in because of the score of any one game. That is not the attitude of winners. That is the attitude of front runners who can not persevere in sport or life.

Will the teams have enough physical talent to compete? IDK but I do know that physical talent alone does not win games in the ECNL.

So what we SHOULD expect is that most of the players/teams will struggle to "up their game". We should ALSO expect improvement over the course of the year and for the majority of teams to show progress by the May San Diego showcase and the first round of the Playoffs. IF at the end of the first season both the players and the coaches know how to play smart soccer at speed it should be considered a success.


Keep in mind the first year will build the foundation for the second year so the players will come in knowing what to expect and what they need to improve upon to be more successful.

Maybe if all of the physically talented players in the area would play on the ECNL teams we would have a right to expect wins but that will not be the case for several years until the value can be demonstrated to the doubters.

I stopped reading at the first "I".

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I stopped reading at the first "I".

That's okay you would not have understood it any way. Gooooo TA!

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I don't know how many times it needs to be said but obviously about once a month when talking about the local teams inaugural ECNL season. It's NOT about the wins. It IS about development and the improvements each player, each coach and hopefully each team makes over the course of a season.

The vast majority of local players stepping up to take on the challenge of ECNL are not currently ECNL caliber players. How could they be playing in either OPL or OYSA leagues?

Few if any local players are asked to play at speed or with game IQ. Yes there are a few teams that venture out of sate that have been exposed to a faster game but that exposure is limited to a 2 or 3 tournaments. Now they will be FORCED to play fast and smart every game. Will they be up to the challenge? Not initially but if they have the desire they can speed up their play and improve their game IQ. I is the height of arrogance to assume that these ladies are going to get discouraged and pack it in because of the score of any one game. That is not the attitude of winners. That is the attitude of front runners who can not persevere in sport or life.

Will the teams have enough physical talent to compete? IDK but I do know that physical talent alone does not win games in the ECNL.

So what we SHOULD expect is that most of the players/teams will struggle to "up their game". We should ALSO expect improvement over the course of the year and for the majority of teams to show progress by the May San Diego showcase and the first round of the Playoffs. IF at the end of the first season both the players and the coaches know how to play smart soccer at speed it should be considered a success.


Keep in mind the first year will build the foundation for the second year so the players will come in knowing what to expect and what they need to improve upon to be more successful.

Maybe if all of the physically talented players in the area would play on the ECNL teams we would have a right to expect wins but that will not be the case for several years until the value can be demonstrated to the doubters.

Most of the talented players in area are already there. So far our ECNL teams have fared well. Can anyone give a total win loss record for Oregon ECNL thus far? Counting only ECNL events.

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Most of the talented players in area are already there. So far our ECNL teams have fared well. Can anyone give a total win loss record for Oregon ECNL thus far? Counting only ECNL events.

CU14 went 2-1 in AZ this weekend. won 4-1 1-0 lost 2-1. Not sure how FC team did.

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That's okay you would not have understood it any way. Gooooo TA!

No, I realized it was more of the snake oil being sold that has been passed off many times before as being a heal all. I hope you realize that you've tried to say it's about development, it's about traveling together and bonding, it's about getting exposure, .... and yet the U17 team played two horrible teams and one mid level California team (it's not really too difficult to see the standings for all of these teams) meanwhile the U16s played better competition and yet went 0-3 with 0 GF and 10 GA. I'm sure there were lots of coaches at the U17 games watching bottom teams play and I'm sure whatever coaches showed up to watch the U16 games were more than impressed with FC Dallas and didn't pay much attention to FC Portland. It's difficult to get a read on a team that is constantly chasing the other team around and when they aren't, they are fetching the ball from the back of their own net.

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Most of the talented players in area are already there. So far our ECNL teams have fared well. Can anyone give a total win loss record for Oregon ECNL thus far? Counting only ECNL events.

CU U14 at Mustang went 0-3 with a -13 GD.
In league play, the U14 teams have fared ok against Utah, and poorly against Idaho, or is it the other way around?
In Phoenix, the FC U17 teams went 2-0-1 with one win against a mid level Cal team, a win over a terrible Birmingham team (they haven't won a game all year) and tied a team that is only slightly better than Birmingham.
The U16 FC team in Phoenix went 0-3 with a -10 GD.

Make what you want out of those results.

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No, I realized it was more of the snake oil being sold that has been passed off many times before as being a heal all. I hope you realize that you've tried to say it's about development, it's about traveling together and bonding, it's about getting exposure, .... and yet the U17 team played two horrible teams and one mid level California team (it's not really too difficult to see the standings for all of these teams) meanwhile the U16s played better competition and yet went 0-3 with 0 GF and 10 GA. I'm sure there were lots of coaches at the U17 games watching bottom teams play and I'm sure whatever coaches showed up to watch the U16 games were more than impressed with FC Dallas and didn't pay much attention to FC Portland. It's difficult to get a read on a team that is constantly chasing the other team around and when they aren't, they are fetching the ball from the back of their own net.

Yeah those coaches should come up and watch the real deal at the Clash at the Border.

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No, I realized it was more of the snake oil being sold that has been passed off many times before as being a heal all. I hope you realize that you've tried to say it's about development, it's about traveling together and bonding, it's about getting exposure, .... and yet the U17 team played two horrible teams and one mid level California team (it's not really too difficult to see the standings for all of these teams) meanwhile the U16s played better competition and yet went 0-3 with 0 GF and 10 GA. I'm sure there were lots of coaches at the U17 games watching bottom teams play and I'm sure whatever coaches showed up to watch the U16 games were more than impressed with FC Dallas and didn't pay much attention to FC Portland. It's difficult to get a read on a team that is constantly chasing the other team around and when they aren't, they are fetching the ball from the back of their own net.

Your so ridiculous.

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CU U14 at Mustang went 0-3 with a -13 GD.
In league play, the U14 teams have fared ok against Utah, and poorly against Idaho, or is it the other way around?
In Phoenix, the FC U17 teams went 2-0-1 with one win against a mid level Cal team, a win over a terrible Birmingham team (they haven't won a game all year) and tied a team that is only slightly better than Birmingham.
The U16 FC team in Phoenix went 0-3 with a -10 GD.

Make what you want out of those results.

I'm sure those two "horrible teams" would whoop up on your dd's team, but of course we'll never know that because her team wouldn't qualify to even be on the field with those teams in the first place. Enjoy you brown bag lunch while at the game in Medford.

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Wasn't really a college showcase. This weekend was the start of the National Tournament. College season isn't over yet. Coaches start watching games starting this weekend and on. If there's a time to get your butt kicked in ECNL, this was the weekend.

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CU U14 at Mustang went 0-3 with a -13 GD.
In league play, the U14 teams have fared ok against Utah, and poorly against Idaho, or is it the other way around?
In Phoenix, the FC U17 teams went 2-0-1 with one win against a mid level Cal team, a win over a terrible Birmingham team (they haven't won a game all year) and tied a team that is only slightly better than Birmingham.
The U16 FC team in Phoenix went 0-3 with a -10 GD.

Make what you want out of those results.

So results so far in ECNL events are 6 wins 1 tie and 5 losses. Not bad for just getting going.

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So results so far in ECNL events are 6 wins 1 tie and 5 losses. Not bad for just getting going.

It sounds like they are in the middle of the pack. Not bad. Congratulations.

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Your so ridiculous.

Actually, that post was right on. You are really in the dark.

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I'm sure those two "horrible teams" would whoop up on your dd's team, but of course we'll never know that because her team wouldn't qualify to even be on the field with those teams in the first place. Enjoy you brown bag lunch while at the game in Medford.

Well, Medford did go to the championship game in 6A. And they have more players at Oregon than Portland teams. But keep putting them down as if you are making a point. And by the way, how did you get used to wearing that dunce cap in class? Regardless, you ECNL'rs think that all of those coaches are going to show up to any game that pits ECNL v. ECNL. Well, it just wasn't so this weekend. Coaches went to the good games. Keep to your "well that's more than will go to your games" schtick, as it's obvious you can't justify this spend. College coaches are not as stupid as you think they are. The bad teams take anyone who shows up. It's not worth their while to watch bad teams play bad teams.

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It sounds like they are in the middle of the pack. Not bad. Congratulations.

But you must consider the competition. They've lost or tied many bad teams. Go to the ECNl website and do a little research. Any time they've played good teams, more often than not they've gotten beaten. And badly. Mustang was an absolute disaster. The FCP U16s were completely owned buy good, but not top ECNL teams. The Oregon teams have beaten mediocre teams, which speaks to the dilution of ECNL. If you think differently, you clearly are too dumb to look at the results and draw any logical conclusion.